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Title: Siduction Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/28, 16:50:29: Hello,

I have made in Runlevel 3:
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apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade -fAfter that the Gnome 3 Desktop will not start with the following message:
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oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occured and the system can't recover. All extensions have been disabled as a precaution. Log outHow can I repair that?

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/09/29, 11:10:55: Hello

Can you be more specific please ?
It might be a lighdm problem, a gnome problem or some gnome 3 packages missing.
First try to reinstall lightdm or to use gdm3 instead.

I have done a d-u today 29 sepetember 2014 and for me gnome3 it works.
If it won't work after reinstalling lightdm or not after enabling gdm3 almost sure your's last d-u have removed some necessary packages.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/29, 12:18:04: Quote from: convbsd on 2014/09/29, 11:10:55
Can you be more specific please ?
It might be a lighdm problem, a gnome problem or some gnome 3 packages missing.
First try to reinstall lightdm or to use gdm3 instead.
With kdm, lightdm the same problem. With gdm3 landing on konsole, and 'startx' bring the same message.
My last D-U was ahead of 3 weeks (11.09.2014, Gnome-shell Version was 3.12.2-3), perhaps is that the reason.

Can I now never run Gnome 3?

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: towo on 2014/09/29, 12:21:40: Post the X-Log!
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/09/29, 13:47:42: Don't worry.
It will work.
What release have you installed please ?
december , whiteroom, ...
Thank you !
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/29, 13:50:39: Hello,
Quote from: towo on 2014/09/29, 12:21:40
Post the X-Log!
Sorry, which X-Log you mean?
I have now made
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sudo apt-get purge libmarblewidget18 libmutter0d libvlccore7but the situation is the same.

The Display-Manager 'gdm3' not work --> black Screen.
I use 'kdm' now. KDE works fine.

regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/29, 13:54:10: Quote from: convbsd on 2014/09/29, 13:47:42
What release have you installed please ?
december , whiteroom, ...
siduction is a rolling release.
After D-U I have
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~$ apt-cache policy gnome-shell gnome-shell: Installiert: 3.14.0-1 Installationskandidat: 3.14.0-1 Versionstabelle: *** 3.14.0-1 0 500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main i386 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: melmarker on 2014/09/29, 17:19:10: Hanisch - only a hint: convbsd is the developer who is in charge for siduction gnome. So i really think that he know what a rolling release is. And i think that his question about the installed release has a good reason. Please be so kind and provide informations if asked for.

Otherwise i could consider to close this thread because the lack of interest on your side. Thanks.
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/29, 17:39:45: Quote from: melmarker on 2014/09/29, 17:19:10
Hanisch - only a hint: convbsd is the developer that is in charge for siduction gnome. So i really think that he know what a rolling release is. And i think that his question about the installed release has a good reason. Please be so kind and provide informations if asked for.
Excuse me, but I have no frigging idea wich siduction release I have installed. Perhaps begin of 2013 (32 Bit in a VirtualBox)!

Please help me, my Gnome 3 is now Version 3.14.0-1 and my last D-U was on 11.09.2014 with Gnome 3 Version 3.12.2-3.
The deletion of gnome-shell and reinstalling has no effect. 'gdm3' is no working.

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: terroreek on 2014/09/29, 18:09:15: Hi Hanisch,

Easy way to find out, when you are at the grub screen it will tell you the release version. So as an example on my siduction installs it says 'siduction 2013.2.1 december (gnome) GNU/Linux'

you can also 'cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg', and that will give you the release as well.
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: melmarker on 2014/09/29, 18:16:51: or even better cat /etc/siduction-version i think - inxi -v1 should give you the version too.
Regarding the gdm3 problem: that one is easy:
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apt-get purge gdm3 :)

if you know your version (inxi) i would recommend lightdm - this is simple too:
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apt-get install siduction-settings-lightdm-gtk-$CODENAME
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/09/29, 18:41:13: Hi Hanisch

Please tell us what release was used when installed.
If you don't remmeber please tell us output of ls /usr/share/wallpapers.
Siduction uses as wallpaper name release name.

cat /etc/siduction-version is another way to find release name.

Don't purge gdm3. If so it will be removed a lot of packages.
If you have done already this don't worry. We'll fix that.

Thank you !
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: GoinEasy9 on 2014/09/29, 18:45:52: "inxi -S" will give you the siduction version.
So will "cat /etc/siduction-version"
And, to my surprise, so will "ls /usr/share/wallpapers"
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/29, 18:51:59: Quote from: melmarker on 2014/09/29, 18:16:51
or even better cat /etc/siduction-version i think - inxi -v1 should give you the version too.
Regarding the gdm3 problem: that one is easy:
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apt-get purge gdm3 :)
Ok.
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~$ inxi -v1 System: Host: siductionbox Kernel: 3.16-3.towo-siduction-686 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: KDE 4.14.1 Distro: siduction 13.1.0 Firestarter - kde - (201305211837) CPU: Single core Intel Core i7-2630QM (-UP-) speed: 1998 MHz (max) Graphics: Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics Adapter Display Server: X.Org 1.16.1 drivers: ati,vboxvideo (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1272x714@60.00hz GLX Renderer: Chromium GLX Version: 2.1 Chromium 1.9 Drives: HDD Total Size: 32.2GB (25.5% used) Info: Processes: 159 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 526.9/755.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.12
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~$ inxi -S System: Host: siductionbox Kernel: 3.16-3.towo-siduction-686 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: KDE 4.14.1 Distro: siduction 13.1.0 Firestarter - kde - (201305211837)
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~$ ls /usr/share/wallpapers Elarun joy_inksplat siduction-firestarter.jpg siduction-firestarter-really-wide.jpg stripes.png joy siduction-firestarter siduction-firestarter-medium.jpg siduction-firestarter-wide.jpg stripes.png.desktop
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if you know your version (inxi) i would recommend lightdm - this is simple too:
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apt-get install siduction-settings-lightdm-gtk-$CODENAME
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~$ sudo apt-get install siduction-settings-lightdm-gtk-$siduction-Firestarter Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut. Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig E: Paket siduction-settings-lightdm-gtk--Firestarter kann nicht gefunden werden.What is the $CODENAME ?

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/09/29, 20:21:20: First do a d-u.
Since you have as start release firestarter you need to install libpam-systemd .
Firestarter gnome display manager was gdm3.
Without libpam-systemd gdm3 won't work.
Also it's needed to install systemd-sysvinit and to remove old sysvinit.
If it's working it's ok. If not there are missing packages because were removed at previous d-u.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/29, 22:00:45: Quote from: convbsd on 2014/09/29, 20:21:20
First do a d-u.
Ok.
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Since you have as start release firestarter you need to install libpam-systemd .
Firestarter gnome display manager was gdm3.
Without libpam-systemd gdm3 won't work.
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~$ sudo apt-get install libpam-systemdOk.
With 'gdm3' landing on Konsole and 'startx' bring the known message.
'lightdm' and 'kdm' bring for 'Gnome' the known message.

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Also it's needed to install systemd-sysvinit and to remove old sysvinit.
If it's working it's ok. If not there are missing packages because were removed at previous d-u.
Thank you.
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~$ sudo apt-get purge sysvinit Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut. Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT: sysvinit* 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 1 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert. Nach dieser Operation werden 122 kB Plattenplatz freigegeben. Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] j (Lese Datenbank ... 334776 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.) Entfernen von sysvinit (2.88dsf-53.4) ... ~$ sudo apt-get install systemd-sysvinit Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut. Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig E: Paket systemd-sysvinit kann nicht gefunden werden.
Das hat alles nichts gebracht.

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/09/30, 06:25:30: Sorry systemd-sysv.
Sure you have purged sysvinit? After that systemd is installed.
When purge sysvinit you will get a message "Yes do as I say".
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/30, 11:35:25: Quote from: convbsd on 2014/09/30, 06:25:30
Sorry systemd-sysv.
systemd-sysv was installed.
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Sure you have purged sysvinit? After that systemd is installed.
I think sysvinit must be installed.
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When purge sysvinit you will get a message "Yes do as I say".
No, I have no message like "Yes do as I say".
I have verified the situation on an old siduction-installation with D-U from 11.09.2014 with gnome-shell-Version 3.12.2-3. 'gdm3' was not installed, but after Installation of 'gdm3' or with 'kdm' I logged in to GNOME 3 well.

In my newest Installation after:
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apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade -fI have the gnome-shell-Version 3.14.0-1 and gdm3 Version 3.13.92-1.
With sysvinit and without sysvinit the Display-Manager 'gdm3' do not work. I have a black Screen.

I think my problem is come up with the last D-U (dist-upgrade -f) with newest gnome-shell and gdm3.

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/09/30, 14:38:06: Hi,
If you can log in gnome using kdm your's gnome install is ok and only gdm3 is not ok.
In last siduction we use lightdm instead of gdm3 due to a lot of gdm3 bugs.
I haven't tested gdm3 these days.
So your's problem seems to be solved.
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/30, 16:30:25: Quote from: convbsd on 2014/09/30, 14:38:06
Hi,
If you can log in gnome using kdm your's gnome install is ok and only gdm3 is not ok.
My problem is that I can't login in GNOME 3 neither with kdm nor with lightdm.
After choice GNOME at Login-Screen the known message appears.
Only KDE works well.

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So your's problem seems to be solved.
No, no! I have the known message since last 'dist-upgrade -f'.

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/09/30, 17:25:43: Hi,

I have prepared for you actual gnome pkglist.
You can install it after a d-u without -f param using:

apt-get install $(cat ./gnome-pkglist.txt)

Of course you need to be root and in same dir as gnome-pkglist.txt.
You may remove unneeded languages from there.

Good luck!
Ps: It should work if you have systemd and systemd-sysv installed.
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/30, 18:21:22: Quote from: convbsd on 2014/09/30, 17:25:43
Hi,

I have prepared for you actual gnome pkglist.
You can install it after a d-u without -f param using:

apt-get install $(cat ./gnome-pkglist.txt)

Of course you need to be root and in same dir as gnome-pkglist.txt.
You may remove unneeded languages from there.

Good luck!
Ps: It should work if you have systemd and systemd-sysv installed.

Sorry, with 'kdm' and 'lightdm' always the same situation with known message.

Sitzungsart: Abgesichert funktioniert auch nicht!!

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: michaa7 on 2014/09/30, 18:36:17: Quote from: Hanisch on 2014/09/30, 18:21:22
Quote from: convbsd on 2014/09/30, 17:25:43
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apt-get install $(cat ./gnome-pkglist.txt)
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Sorry, with 'kdm' always the same situation with known message.
...

But you did install the package list?
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/30, 18:54:19: Quote from: michaa7 on 2014/09/30, 18:36:17

But you did install the package list?
Yes, I have downloaded your supplement to ~/Downloads and than in root-Mode from this Folder:
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apt-get install $(cat ./gnome-pkglist.txt)It's right? Or what mean you with package list?

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# apt-get install $(cat ./gnome-pkglist.txt) Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut. Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig Note, selecting 'libreoffice-common' instead of 'libreoffice-l10n-en-us' aisleriot ist schon die neueste Version. alacarte ist schon die neueste Version. baobab ist schon die neueste Version. brasero ist schon die neueste Version. cracklib-runtime ist schon die neueste Version. cups-bsd ist schon die neueste Version. cups-pk-helper ist schon die neueste Version. dconf-tools ist schon die neueste Version. empathy ist schon die neueste Version. eog ist schon die neueste Version. evince ist schon die neueste Version. evolution ist schon die neueste Version. evolution-data-server ist schon die neueste Version. file-roller ist schon die neueste Version. five-or-more ist schon die neueste Version. fonts-dejavu ist schon die neueste Version. fonts-liberation ist schon die neueste Version. fonts-sil-gentium-basic ist schon die neueste Version. four-in-a-row ist schon die neueste Version. gconf-editor ist schon die neueste Version. gdm3 ist schon die neueste Version. geary ist schon die neueste Version. gedit ist schon die neueste Version. gengetopt ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-backgrounds ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-bluetooth ist schon die neueste Version. gcalctool ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-chess ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-control-center ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-dictionary ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-disk-utility ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-hearts ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-keyring ist schon die neueste Version. libpam-gnome-keyring ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-klotski ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-logs ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-mahjongg ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-media ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-mines ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-nibbles ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-online-accounts ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-photos ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-robots ist schon die neueste Version. gnome-screenshot ist schon 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libreoffice-math ist schon die neueste Version. libreoffice-report-builder-bin ist schon die neueste Version. libreoffice-writer ist schon die neueste Version. python3-uno ist schon die neueste Version. libxml2-utils ist schon die neueste Version. lightsoff ist schon die neueste Version. mpg321 ist schon die neueste Version. nautilus ist schon die neueste Version. nautilus-open-terminal ist schon die neueste Version. network-manager-gnome ist schon die neueste Version. openclipart-libreoffice ist schon die neueste Version. mythes-en-us ist schon die neueste Version. mythes-de ist schon die neueste Version. polari ist schon die neueste Version. quadrapassel ist schon die neueste Version. rhythmbox ist schon die neueste Version. shared-mime-info ist schon die neueste Version. sound-theme-freedesktop ist schon die neueste Version. swell-foop ist schon die neueste Version. tali ist schon die neueste Version. totem ist schon die neueste Version. tracker-gui ist schon die neueste Version. transmission-gtk ist schon die neueste Version. vinagre ist schon die neueste Version. vino ist schon die neueste Version. hexchat ist schon die neueste Version. 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/09/30, 20:11:56: I don't speak german but I guess that you have there all needed packages.
If so you haven't properly migrated to systemd or it may be another problem.
Does start lightdm your's kde session ?
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/09/30, 21:48:09: Hanisch,

If you want to do tests with siduction mixed desktop environments as kde and gnome please tell us.
It's more easy to install in a new virtualbox a mixed desktop environment than to fix an experiment as your's.
An existing virtual machine in virtualbox can be easy removed/reinstalled.
And bye the way, what virtualbox version are you using and on what distro is installed ?

Thank you
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/30, 23:26:29: Quote from: convbsd on 2014/09/30, 21:48:09
Hanisch,

If you want to do tests with siduction mixed desktop environments as kde and gnome please tell us.
It's more easy to install in a new virtualbox a mixed desktop environment than to fix an experiment as your's.
An existing virtual machine in virtualbox can be easy removed/reinstalled.
I have installed siduction with the two Desktops KDE and GNOME.
With the new Version of gnome-shell 3.14.0-1 coming up these message:
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oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occured and the system can't recover. All extensions have been disabled as a precaution. Log outPlease show the attachment.
Can you determine whence this message is coming, from which program or routine?

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And bye the way, what virtualbox version are you using and on what distro is installed ?
VirtualBox 4.3.16 in Host-Distro aptosid.

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/09/30, 23:31:34: Quote from: convbsd on 2014/09/30, 20:11:56
I don't speak german but I guess that you have there all needed packages.
If so you haven't properly migrated to systemd or it may be another problem.
Does start lightdm your's kde session ?
Yes, I think also.
lightdm and kdm start KDE sucessfully.

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: piper on 2014/10/01, 01:50:39: Works fine here, both installed and from vbox

(http://i62.tinypic.com/30t2hra.jpg)

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2eb4u41.jpg)
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/10/01, 06:32:11: Since your's install is an experiment I don't figure what's your's gnome3 problem.
What session tries lghtdm/gdm to start when you want gnome session ?
I have told you, If you want to do a fresh mixed install of both desktop environments I can help you.
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/01, 12:47:33: Quote from: convbsd on 2014/10/01, 06:32:11
Since your's install is an experiment I don't figure what's your's gnome3 problem.
And the mystic message is come from?
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What session tries lghtdm/gdm to start when you want gnome session ?
gdm is not installed and gdm3 do not work -> black Sceen. With lightdm and kdm the gnome session give me the known mystic message.
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I have told you, If you want to do a fresh mixed install of both desktop environments I can help you.
Ok. - I will install an new siduction-System from siduction-13.2.1-december-gnome-i386-201401272119.iso with my old /home-Partition.
How can I than install the KDE-full Desktop?

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/10/01, 12:52:21: Hi,

When you have installed gnome december do a dist-upgrade whitout -f
If after dist-upgrade gnome is still working we will add also kde packages.

After d-u if all ok please tell me to proceed with kde packages.

Thank you !
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/01, 15:32:42: Quote from: convbsd on 2014/10/01, 12:52:21
When you have installed gnome december do a dist-upgrade whitout -f
If after dist-upgrade gnome is still working we will add also kde packages.

After d-u if all ok please tell me to proceed with kde packages.
Gnome will working well with gdm3, kdm and lightdm.

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~$ inxi -v1 System: Host: siductionbox Kernel: 3.12-8.towo-siduction-686 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Gnome 3.8.4 Distro: siduction 13.2.1 December - gnome - (201401272119) CPU: Single core Intel Core i7-2630QM CPU (-UP-) clocked at 1996.113 MHz Graphics: Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics Adapter X.Org: 1.14.5 drivers: ati,vboxvideo (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1272x714@60.0hz GLX Renderer: Chromium GLX Version: 2.1 Chromium 1.9 Drives: HDD Total Size: 32.2GB (17.9% used) Info: Processes: 135 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 435.9/755.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.17Gnome 3.8.4 - why?
After D-U in Runlevel 3 can't enter the Gnome-session (lightdm) with the old known mystic message.
I belief in the newest Version of gnome-shell is a fatal bug.
Perhaps the program 'localepurge' is the reason for this fatal mystic message.
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$ apt-cache search localepurge localepurge - Freigeben von Festplattenplatz durch Entfernen nicht benötigter Lokalisierungen
I have make the installation again without the installation of 'localepurge' and it works well.
Only my program-favorites:
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apt-get install krusader konsole kwrite kate ding wish dolphin systemsettings icedove guake clipit byobuhave I installed.
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~$ inxi -S System: Host: siductionbox Kernel: 3.16-3.towo-siduction-686 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Gnome 3.14.0 Distro: siduction 13.2.1 December - gnome - (201401272119)

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/01, 20:43:01: Hello,

I have - so belief - the reason for this mystic message found.
After I have installed the GuestAdditions than this mystic message turn up.

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/10/01, 20:59:03: Hi Hanisch,

Great that you discovered the reason.
If you want to install kde also you can use in installed gnome:
addpkg kde
and that should be all.

Greetings ConvBSD.
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/01, 21:38:25: Quote from: convbsd on 2014/10/01, 20:59:03
Great that you discovered the reason.
If you want to install kde also you can use in installed gnome:
addpkg kde
and that should be all.
Thank you, but how can I delete the GuestAdditions with a Live-DVD?

S o l u t i o n:
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nount /dev/sda1 /media/x mount -o bind /dev /media/x/dev mount -o bind /sys /media/x/sys mount -t proc /proc /media/x/proc cp /proc/mounts /media/x/etc/mtab cp /etc/resolv.conf /media/x/etc/resolv.conf chroot /media/x /bin/bash -i cd /opt/VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.16 sh ./uninstall.sh exit

The deletion of GuestAdditions in my first Installation from KDE-Desktop is possible with
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/opt/VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.16/uninstall.shNow I can without GuestAdditions run the Gnome-session again.

Well, the reason for the mystic message are VirtualBox-GuestAdditions .

Newest gnome-shell is not compatible with VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.16 from ORACLE https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/10/01, 21:47:53: I haven't done this so I don't know.
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: convbsd on 2014/10/01, 22:39:32: I have installed as you i386 december gnome, done a d-u and added using "addpkg kde" kde packages over installed gnome.
All went ok and I have now both kde and gnome.
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/02, 12:02:01: Quote from: piper on 2014/10/01, 01:50:39
Works fine here, both installed and from vbox

(http://i62.tinypic.com/30t2hra.jpg)

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2eb4u41.jpg)
Which VirtualBox-Version? (4.3.16?)
GuestAdditions installed?

regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: piper on 2014/10/02, 13:03:12: Which VirtualBox-Version? (4.3.16?)
GuestAdditions installed?

regards
Ch. Hanisch

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piper@x1:~$ apt-cache policy virtualbox virtualbox: Installed: 4.3.14-dfsg-1 Candidate: 4.3.14-dfsg-1 Version table: *** 4.3.14-dfsg-1 0 500 http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/debian/ unstable/contrib amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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piper@x1:~$ apt-cache policy virtualbox-guest-additions-iso virtualbox-guest-additions-iso: Installed: 4.3.14-1 Candidate: 4.3.14-1 Version table: *** 4.3.14-1 0 500 http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/debian/ unstable/non-free amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/02, 13:19:19: Quote from: piper link=topic=4992.msg41149#msg41149 date=1412247792

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piper@x1:~$ apt-cache policy virtualbox
virtualbox:
Installed: 4.3.14-dfsg-1
Candidate: 4.3.14-dfsg-1
Version table:
*** 4.3.14-dfsg-1 0
500 http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/debian/ unstable/contrib amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status[/code]

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piper@x1:~$ apt-cache policy virtualbox-guest-additions-iso virtualbox-guest-additions-iso: Installed: 4.3.14-1 Candidate: 4.3.14-1 Version table: *** 4.3.14-1 0 500 http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/debian/ unstable/non-free amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Das ist nicht die von mir verwendete Original von ORACLE downloaded VirtualBox 4.3.16 mit zugehörigen GuestAdditions.
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Wo hast Du die Version 4.3.14 her (unstable/non-free)?
Welche Host-Distro verwendest Du?
Mein System in der VirtualBox ist 32 Bit.

Gruß
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: michaa7 on 2014/10/02, 13:36:46: Quote from: Hanisch on 2014/10/02, 13:19:19
...
Das ist nicht die von mir verwendete Original von ORACLE downloaded VirtualBox 4.3.16 mit zugehörigen GuestAdditions.
...
Most likely that's what causes your problem (using original Oracle VB instead of Debian adapted VB).

Have a close look @
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# apt-cache policy virtualbox virtualbox-guest*
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/02, 17:38:37: Quote from: michaa7 on 2014/10/02, 13:36:46
Most likely that's what causes your problem (using original Oracle VB instead of Debian adapted VB).
Yes, but I find no way in aptosid install virtualbox from Repositories.
In synaptic I find:
virtuabox 4.3.14
virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
virtualbox-guest-dkms
virtualbox-guest-utils
virtualbox-guest-x11
which package should installed in Host and in Guest?

I have now installed VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.14 from https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/12941 (https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/12941)
It works also under siduction-December for gnome-session, but only Shared Folder are successful.
Under siduction-Firestarter works in gnome-session and KDE-session, but without any effects.

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work [...with vboxdriver [workaround]]
Post by: michaa7 on 2014/10/02, 18:09:12: Quote from: Hanisch on 2014/10/02, 17:38:37
Quote from: michaa7 on 2014/10/02, 13:36:46
Most likely that's what causes your problem (using original Oracle VB instead of Debian adapted VB).
Yes, but I find no way in aptosid install virtualbox from Repositories.

Please tell us "aptosid" is a typo (schreibfehler).

Quote from: Hanisch on 2014/10/02, 17:38:37
virtualbox 4.3.14
virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
...

That's what your looking for, but please, have a look what's in your sources list. And synaptic isn't the supported way to install (ok for searching, if you feel you need it).

But why not from xterm/konsole:
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apt-cache policy virtualbox virtualbox-guest*
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work [...with vboxdriver [workaround]]
Post by: melmarker on 2014/10/02, 18:15:54: Nö - michaa7 - das ist kein Schreibfehler, hanisch meint das vollkommen ernst. Sind wir nicht eine tolerante Community?
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work [...with vboxdriver [workaround]]
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/02, 20:18:01: Quote from: melmarker on 2014/10/02, 18:15:54
Nö - michaa7 - das ist kein Schreibfehler, hanisch meint das vollkommen ernst. Sind wir nicht eine tolerante Community?
Das hatte ich auch nicht anders erwartet.
Mein Host ist nun mal seit SIDUX-Zeiten aptosid.
siduction verwende ich Interesse halber, daher auch in einer VirtualBox.
Die Probleme mit den VBoxGuestAdditions hatte ich einfach nicht erwartet.
Vielleicht wird das entweder von ORACLE oder in der gnome-shell einmal gefixt.
Die 3D-Unterstützung war in der VirtualBox auch schon mal besser.

Gruß
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work [...with vboxdriver [workaround]]
Post by: melmarker on 2014/10/02, 20:39:30: Das wir tolerant sind bedeutet aber auf keinen Fall, dass der betreffende User nicht denken und lernen muss. Und virtualbox funktioniert im allgemeinen recht klasse mit allem, was wir so fabrizieren.
Title: Re: Gnome 3 will never work [...with vboxdriver [workaround]]
Post by: michaa7 on 2014/10/02, 20:52:31: Quote from: Hanisch on 2014/10/02, 20:18:01
...
Die Probleme mit den VBoxGuestAdditions hatte ich einfach nicht erwartet.
...
But I don't get your problem, virtualbox and virtualbox-guest-additions-iso are neither provided by siduction nor by aptosid but by Debian. They are both installable. The only tricky part is that virtualbox-guest-additions is replaced by virtualbox-guest-additions-iso which you have to install after mounting it within the guest system:
apt-cache show virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
Quote
...
This package provides an iso image which contains the guest additions
for Linux, Solaris and Windows to be installed on the host system. The guest
systems then can mount the iso and install the guest additions from there.

And this seems to work as documented by piper's posting.
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: musca on 2014/10/02, 20:55:08: Hello Hanisch,

no problem to discuss individual projects in the right forum: i moved the thread to Free Speech.

Your self created problems are no reason to post upgrade warnings in the siduction forum.
Have fun!

greetings
musca
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: convbsd on 2014/10/03, 07:11:06: Hi Hanisch,

Despite it you have created wourself problems you have been of a great help.
I have changed siduction-scripts addpkg and we both tested it.
Thank you for using addpkg.

Btw I have tried to bring gnome in aptosid but ... no succes.
In aptosid worked all test iso's with gnome2 and gnome 3.
Aptosid seems almost freezed from sidux days because no new DE's there and I have noticed that some peoples has done effort for this (three peoples for gnome, two for lxde and so on.)

Greetings
Ovidiu
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/03, 13:37:36: Quote from: musca on 2014/10/02, 20:55:08
no problem to discuss individual projects in the right forum: i moved the thread to Free Speech.
No, no the right forum is "Upgrade Warnings". My problem is not individual because many Users have installed VirtualBox from ORACLE Homepage https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads (https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads).

Quote
Your self created problems are no reason to post upgrade warnings in the siduction forum.
Have fun!
Excuse me but my english is not good enough for my following report. Therefore I tell you in german.

1) Es gibt zahlreiche User, die VirtualBox für ihr Host-System aus der Fremdquelle von der ORACLE-Homepage https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads (https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads) - für ihre Host-Distro dort angeboten (hier Debian 7 "Wheezy" -> aptosid) - bevorzugen.

2) Mit den VBoxGuestAdditions gibt es gelegentlich Inkompatibilitäten mit den Guest-Distros.
Das kann an den VBoxGuestAdditions oder an der Guest-Distro liegen.
Deshalb bringen z.B. Mageia und Manjaro eigene GuestAdditions in der Distro mit.
Solange das unter siduction nicht der Fall ist, sind bei auftretenden Inkompatibilitäten Upgrade-Warnungen durchaus sinnvoll.

3) Hier liegt es an siduction als Gast-System und speziell an der dort angepaßten gnome-shell Version 3.14.1-0, die die mysteriöse Fehlermeldung bringt.
Es muß sich doch feststellen lassen, aus welchem Programmteil von gnome-shell diese mysteriöse Fehlermeldung stammt.
KDE und andere Desktops bzw. Distros zeigen in einer VirtualBox diesen Effekt nicht.

4) Auch GNOME 3 sollte unter jeder siduction-Installation in irgendeiner VirtualBox-Version, die für die Host-Distro angepaßt ist, mit zugehörigen VBoxGuestAdditions problemlos laufen.
Wenn nicht sind Upgrade-Warnings bis zum Fixen des Fehlers sinnvoll.
Das Problem ist meiner Meinung nach unter den festgestellten Bedingungen eine Upgrade-Warnung für siduction durchaus wert.

5) Deshalb ist das Verschieben des Threads nach "Freie Rede" --> Alles was es sonst noch gibt außerhalb von siduction
in keiner Weise gerechtfertigt.
Schon allein die große Anzahl von Besuchern des Threads (z.Zt. 896 Aufrufe) zeigt doch ein allgemeines Interesse an.
Vielleicht gibt es nicht viele User, die in einem aptosid-Host eine VirtualBox mit siduction betreiben. Aber das Problem der Inkompatibilität bleibt und sollte bald behoben werden. Und ich meine von den Maintainern von siduction, die die gnome-shell Anpassung vorgenommen haben.

PS.: Vielleicht kann Piper die Screenshots noch einmal mit heruntergelassenem View-Fenster zeigen, damit ich sehen kann, ob da nichts ausgegraut ist. Und der Beweis, daß File-Sharing funktioniert fehlt auch noch.
Vielleicht kann er das VBox-Fenster auch mal etwas breiter (größer) ziehen.

Gruß
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: melmarker on 2014/10/03, 16:30:41: @Hanisch: Dein Problem ist ein individuelles Problem, die Verschiebung war mehr als gerechtfertigt. Nur mal zum mitmeisseln:
* hast Du Probleme mit deinem Host - ist es ein aptosid-Problem
* hast Du Probleme mit VBox - ist es je nach Variante ein Problem für vbox, debian oder aptosid
* hast Du Probleme mit Vbox unter siduction, könnte es eventuell ein Siduction-Problem sein, meist ist es aber ein VBox-Problem

Da diese Punkte alle nicht auf Dein Problem zutreffen, hast Du ein individuelles Problem, was man wahrscheinlich durch eine saubere Installation und Konfiguration lösen könnte. Daraus ne Upgrade-Warnung für Siduction zu machen ist ein ganz klein wenig zu weit hergeholt.

Zur generellen Lauffähigkeit von Siduction Gnome 3 unter VBox auf aptosid will ich nichts sagen, es ist sehr lange her, dass ich eine aptosid-Installation hatte. Was mir aber noch in Erinnerung ist: Ich habe Siduction erst lange nach dem ersten Release installiert - einfach weil ich kein Zeit hatte. In der Zeit habe ich ausführlichst VirtualBox mit Siduction und allen Flavours benutzt und ausser den normalen Problemen mit VirtualBox nie Probleme gehabt.

Eventuell bist Du mit dieser Problematik aber in aptosid-Foren besser aufgehoben. Hmm - ok, der Witz war schlecht, aber wenn die Jungens Support leisten würden, wäre es so :) - Wenn die bei Siduction nicht unbedingt freudig reagieren, dann kann ich das zwar eventuell nachvollziehen - aber wie geschrieben, es ist nicht wirklich unser Problem.
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: michaa7 on 2014/10/03, 16:33:12: Hi Hanisch,

piper speaks english (us), so odds are he won't really understand what you asked him to do.

And your problem:
Using VB(Oracle) with a siduction guest within an aptosid host is a constallation probably nobody else has much experience with, if at all. It seems nobody is able to reproduce your problems because they use VB the Debian way.
So the solution seems to ask in an Oracle forum because obviously nobody here uses VB(Oracle). The other option is to try it the Debian way as stated some postings above.
Insisting it's a gnome3/gnome-shell/VB(Oracle) bug won't help because nobody here uses this combination.
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: ayla on 2014/10/03, 16:43:45: I'm using oracle vbox 4.3.16r 95972 and also do not have a problem. Extensions and guest additions installed and working.

It is not a siduction problem -and I don't think it is a problem with vbox.

just 2c and bye
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/03, 17:32:33: Quote from: ayla on 2014/10/03, 16:43:45
I'm using oracle vbox 4.3.16r 95972 and also do not have a problem. Extensions and guest additions installed and working.
Ok. we have the same VBox from ORACLE-Homepage.
But you have KDE and 64 Bit, while I have KDE and GNOME and 32 Bit.
My problem is only with GNOME-session and installed VBoxGuestAdditions.

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: melmarker on 2014/10/03, 17:45:58: @hanisch: to be true - you can call your problem picnic or pebcak - it remains the same. Few years with linux and nothing learned in this time. Please stop to argue - begin to learn.

ok - a little motivation:
(https://cdn.mediacru.sh/G3saqj5_xQe6.png)

as you see - a current aptosid with a current vbox with a current siduction gnome
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/03, 17:48:40: Quote from: melmarker on 2014/10/03, 16:30:41
* hast Du Probleme mit deinem Host - ist es ein aptosid-Problem ==> Nein
* hast Du Probleme mit VBox - ist es je nach Variante ein Problem für vbox, debian oder aptosid ==> Nein
* hast Du Probleme mit Vbox unter siduction, könnte es eventuell ein Siduction-Problem sein, meist ist es aber ein VBox-Problem ==> Nein
Ich habe ein Problem mit den VBoxGuestAdditions und GNOME 3 (neueste Version) in siduction in einer VirtualBox.
Mit älteren GNOME 3 Versionen hat es keine Probleme gegeben.
Die extensions der neuesten GNOME 3 Version von siduction sind auch fast alle OUTDATED.
Was ist das für ein Fortschritt?

Gruß
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: melmarker on 2014/10/03, 17:57:10: @hanisch - bitte hör auf damit, das ist doch nur noch peinlich. Fang an zu lernen, es lohnt sich sogar noch in Deinem Alter. Hast Du eigentlich schon mal nach Dir gegurgelt? Seit etlichen Jahren die selben Beschwerden, seit Jahren die selbe Empfehlung: FANG AN ZU LERNEN!!
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: ayla on 2014/10/03, 18:00:08: Mal für Doofe -ich kenne gnome schon seit einiger Zeit nicht mehr-:
Quote
Die extensions der neuesten GNOME 3 Version von siduction sind auch fast alle OUTDATED.

Meinst Du jetzt vbox extensions oder hat gnome auch irgendwelche extensions?

Im ersten Fall: was haben die vbox extensions mit gnome zu tun?
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: musca on 2014/10/03, 18:17:00: Hallo Hanisch,

Du hast Dir die unfertigen Gnome-3.14-Pakete von Debian unstable installiert.
Es ist ein bekanntes Problem, dass gnome-shell momentan inkompatibel mit gnome-shell-extensions ist.
Das nennt man Entwicklung und Du bist mit "Debian unstable" live dabei.

Wenn Du nur sorgfältig aufeinander abgestimmte Pakete haben möchtest, dann nimm "Debian stable" (also "Wheezy"). Das ist doch kein Beinbruch.
Have fun!

Grüße
musca
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/03, 18:45:17: Quote from: melmarker on 2014/10/03, 17:45:58

as you see - a current aptosid with a current vbox with a current siduction gnome
Inappropriate for my problem. You have Desktop Gnome 3.8.4 and 64 Bit.
With this Gnome-Version I had likewise no problem. The newest Gnome-Version 3.14 is the problem

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: melmarker on 2014/10/03, 19:28:53: @hanisch: I'm really known for my endless patience, friendly words and absolutly no plan about debian sid in special and linux in common - so please stop writing bullshit right now. You are young enough, spend your time with something useful, maybe install CentOS, Windows, OSX - but you really should not waste your and esp. our time with arguing about aptosid, siduction and sid. As i wrote: aptosid, vbox and siduction gnome work perfectly fine.

And before you write another senseless post - i have updated our last gnome release to the current debian sid packages. It work without breaks as expected. So does the upgrade of aptosid. And please remember - we did the aptosid fork because of interpersonal differences - not technical reasons. Aptosid is as rockstable and usable as a sid based system can be. So is siduction. Please don't blame the aptosid nor the siduction devs for your lack of knowledge and self introduced faults.

THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: ayla on 2014/10/03, 22:25:33: Just to make sure it is not (only) the superior skill of one of our devs... ;)

After two bottles of "Federweiser" I managed to install the current siduction gnome in a vbox on a current aptosid host, with extensions, with guestadditions.

So I can say now: It's not a problem of siduction/gnome, not a problem of vbox and not a problem of aptosid, so what remains?

https://imageshack.com/i/f0eBNKZjp

greets
ayla
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: dibl on 2014/10/03, 23:07:27: Quote from: ayla on 2014/10/03, 22:25:33

After two bottles of "Federweiser" ...

[OT]@ayla, you just reminded me of that great Federweis! I remember that from one my visits to Pfalz some years ago -- a half-fermented Riesling, all bubbly and with the yeast floating around in it, which you can buy at the vendor booth along the road from Höheinöd to Thaleischweiler. What a great memory of a nice autumn day in the old Pfalz.[/OT]
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: ayla on 2014/10/03, 23:36:08: /OT @dibl: Glad that you enjoyed your visit. Visiting the Pfalz, especially the aeras were the wine is growing, should be done in autumn ;) OT/
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: ayla on 2014/10/04, 01:41:26: I apologize.

Hanish is at least in this right: there is something wrong with Oracle Vbox 4.3.16 and the guest Additions. I haven't restartet vbox after installing the guest additions so I didnt get the fault before.
After I did now, the guest starts until it reaches the login screen. After login the "Oh no, something went wrong..." message appears insteed of the gnome desktop.

The reason may be found in the linked image: https://imageshack.com/i/f0RKrwMZj (https://imageshack.com/i/f0RKrwMZj) -easy to overlook, because vbox goes on after the fault and the message isn't very clear also because its's pointing to a "following module compilation" and evrything what follows is "done"- But "done" without having the headers for doing it??

As gnome and vbox without the Guest additions is working as expected my guess is: It's a problem with the Installer for the guest additions and should be reported to Oracle.

EDIT:
Trying a kde-guest on the given configuration. The guest additions are working there although the same message as above linked appears...
diggin in deeper.
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/04, 11:48:29: Quote from: ayla on 2014/10/04, 01:41:26
I apologize.

Hanish is at least in this right: there is something wrong with Oracle Vbox 4.3.16 and the guest Additions. I haven't restartet vbox after installing the guest additions so I didnt get the fault before.
After I did now, the guest starts until it reaches the login screen. After login the "Oh no, something went wrong..." message appears insteed of the gnome desktop.
Ok. - It is though a problem for "Upgrade Warnings".

Quote
As gnome and vbox without the Guest additions is working as expected my guess is: It's a problem with the Installer for the guest additions and should be reported to Oracle.
Perhaps, but in many instances of installation in the past of VBoxGuestAdditions the message "The headers for the current running kernel were not found. If the following module compilation fails then this could be the reason." has no effect because the installtion is going right.
With KDE there are no problems, GuestAdditions works well. Only the siduction gnome-shell Version 3.14.1-0 gets this mystic message.

After I have installed VBoxGuestAddition-4.3.14-95030
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Verifying archive integrity... All good. Uncompressing VirtualBox 4.3.14 Guest Additions for Linux............ VirtualBox Guest Additions installer Removing installed version 4.3.16 of VirtualBox Guest Additions... Copying additional installer modules ... Installing additional modules ... Removing existing VirtualBox non-DKMS kernel modules ...done. Building the VirtualBox Guest Additions kernel modules The headers for the current running kernel were not found. If the following module compilation fails then this could be the reason. Building the main Guest Additions module ...done. Building the shared folder support module ...done. Building the OpenGL support module ...done. Doing non-kernel setup of the Guest Additions ...done. You should restart your guest to make sure the new modules are actually used Installing the Window System drivers Warning: unknown version of the X Window System installed. Not installing X Window System drivers. ...done. Installing graphics libraries and desktop services components ...done. Press Return to close this window...GNOME 3 and KDE works with this GuestAdditions for Shared Folder, But not X-Windows.
Please show my Thread in this Forum http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=4896.0

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Aptosid Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: ayla on 2014/10/04, 12:12:08: I wouldn't consider this a problem for upgrade warnings.

1) It's the Oracle vbox not the debian one -so who uses it is on it's own.

2) Gnome works as expected, it's just failing when using the guest addittions

and besides, who cares where a problem is locatet, as long as there are people who are interestet in it?

And seeing the installer of the guest additions working on a kde install you may be right in this too: it may be a problem of the gnome desktop.

BUT: as towo linked to a upgrade warning in one of your other threads it may easaly be a temporary problem, because as musca pointed out there:
Quote
in about six weeks jessie will be frozen, so developers are in a hurry to get latest gnome into it.

Edit:

Testet around a while with no result, I'm not used to gnome so I can't imaging what happens and certainly not in connection with vbox.
If some one else is interested here are the logs I was going over, more can be provided if questioned:
http://paste.siduction.org/20141004112828
http://paste.siduction.org/20141004112822
http://paste.siduction.org/20141004112742
http://paste.siduction.org/20141004112659

greets
ayla
Title: Re: Siduction Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: der_bud on 2014/10/04, 17:10:03: From Oracle Virtualbox Forum:
Quote from: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=63554&p=300126&hilit=gnome#p300126
Re: Discuss the 4.3.16 release

Postby kkshethin » 29. Sep 2014, 15:32
"The VBox Guest Additions before 4.3.16 did not ship X11 drivers to support X.org 1.16. The 4.3.16 Guest Additions include such drivers. But the changes in X.org reveal a bug in the VBox Guest Additions which prevented the GNOME shell from being started. Could you try this test .iso image and check if it makes your F21 guest work as expected? Thank you!"

It works.
This saved my day.

Thanks.

There are Testbuilds at https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Testbuilds, the last two lines for guestadditions and extpack.
Title: Re: Siduction Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: ayla on 2014/10/04, 17:43:33: Testet with the VBox 4.3.17r96317, VBGuest additions 4.3.17-96277 and extpack 4.3.17-96238 for 32bit. Works.

greets
ayla
Title: Re: Siduction Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/04, 17:45:03: Hi,
Oh, wonderful. It works fine now with the VBoxGuestAdditions_4.3.17-96277.iso installed in siduction Guest.
Quote from: der_bud on 2014/10/04, 17:10:03
There are Testbuilds at https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Testbuilds (https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Testbuilds), the last two lines for guestadditions and extpack.
The solution is found. The gnome-shell Version 3.14.1-0 is compatible with this newest VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.17.
Thank you very much.

with regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Siduction Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/04, 17:51:09: Quote from: ayla on 2014/10/04, 17:43:33
Testet with the VBox 4.3.17r96317, VBGuest additions 4.3.17-96277 and extpack 4.3.17-96238 for 32bit. Works.
Yes, it works. Only with VBGuest additions 4.3.17-96277 installed in siduction Guest.
But the VBox 4.3.17r96317 and extpack 4.3.17-96238 was not necessary. Or why is it necessary?

regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Siduction Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: ayla on 2014/10/04, 18:00:31: I don't like to run in trouble because of a version mismatch.
Title: Re: Siduction Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: Hanisch on 2014/10/04, 21:06:39: Quote from: ayla on 2014/10/04, 18:00:31
I don't like to run in trouble because of a version mismatch.
The VirtualBox and the VBoxGuestAdditions must not be the same version.
The version of VBoxGuestAdditions can be lower or higher. VBoxGuestAdditions are only for Guest-Systems not for Host.
You can use VBGuestadditions 4.3.17-96277 from ORACLE Homepage to install in your Guest and virtualbox 4.3.14-dfsg-1 from Debian unstable contrib in your Host.
It is very comfortable to use VirtualBox from ORACLE Homepage for the always newest version of VirtualBox.

with best regards
Ch. Hanisch
Title: Re: Siduction Gnome 3 will never work...with vboxdriver
Post by: Lanzi on 2014/10/05, 20:19:08: Thanks for the Infos. It helped my also with my problem here: http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5011