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Free Speech / Re: Hey My Fellow Sids!
« Last post by RunLevelZero on Today at 00:06:45 »
Two quick things I realized. First I don't dist-upgrade like I said previously lol. I full-upgrade once a week. Also, and this got me when I first started using Siduction, before a full-upgrade, log out and drop to a tty and "init 3". I didn't do this and lost my DE. It may not be necessary every time but I do it to be safe. I would also RTFM. It'll benefit you later if you decide to keep Siduction.
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Free Speech / Re: Hey My Fellow Sids!
« Last post by eriefisher on Yesterday at 20:30:36 »
I think you'll find Siduction rock solid. Sure there's an occasional hiccup but there never fatal if you pay attention. Be sure and watch the Upgrade Warning thread. If there is a problem you'll likely see there and likely a solution as well.

I've never tried a full on Arch install. I install Manjaro a while back and it was nothing but problems. Polkit would not start on boot so no root access. After spending the time to learn most of the package management system, getting update and set up to where I could actually use it I found it way too buggy and abandon it.
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Free Speech / Re: Hey My Fellow Sids!
« Last post by RunLevelZero on Yesterday at 15:59:59 »
I distro hopped for years. I've used Linux since 1999. I used Slackware for years and then went to a LAN party and was shown the beauty of Debian. I hopped Debian distros for years and landed on Mint Debian edition for a while. I like latest and greatest and found siduction back in oh, 2017 I think. I haven't looked back and only installed a new distro on a ventoy USB stick to play with and then I'm back to my SID. Like the others have said, updates are a part of this, but then you get the latest and greatest, if you know how to manage your OS then you're golden, the community has been awesome for me and I always check the upgrade warning when there is a disturbance in the force. The latest was the 64 bit transition. Many dared to walk the path first and I am grateful. My system was at 900+ updates when I got ready to do the update. I did copy the to be removed and to be installed and checked every single one. It was tedious but I was confident in what was being removed and installed. Clicked the go button and had zero issues. Those who walked before me and provided info gave me the confidence. Not sure that helped AT ALL but just throwing in my vote to go for it. Run it on a system and force yourself to use that system for a few months. That should give you a good idea of life with Siduction. I dist-upgrade once week and during big transitions just apt upgrade until things settle, then dist-upgrade. That's the general rule besides check the upgrade warnings.

Yeah, when I was on arch, there's always something I was missing. Something that I never forgot from Squeeze days. apt. It's just drilled in my head. sudo apt _____

I'll try this out on my laptop, an old ThinkPad, before I dump Sparky.

Let us know how it goes.
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Danke, mein Freund, genau das war es!    :)
Hatte ich noch nie.    ???

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Thank you, my friend, that's exactly what it was.
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Warte mal, bis dein Spiegelserver aktualisiert ist. Bei mir ist gerade alles wieder aktuell ohne dem Löschen von Paketen, auch udisks2.

edlin
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doas apt dist-upgrade
Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt:
  exfatprogs              glib-networking-services  gvfs-common   libavahi-glib1     libblockdev-mdraid3  libblockdev-swap3   libbytesize-common  libgdata22         libgpgme11t64   libpam-gnome-keyring  libsoup-3.0-common  p11-kit
  glib-networking         gnome-keyring             gvfs-libs     libblockdev-fs3    libblockdev-nvme3    libblockdev-utils3  libbytesize1        libgoa-1.0-0b      libmsgraph-0-1  libsoup-2.4-1         libsoup2.4-common   p11-kit-modules
  glib-networking-common  gnome-keyring-pkcs11      libatasmart4  libblockdev-loop3  libblockdev-part3    libblockdev3        libgdata-common     libgoa-1.0-common  libnvme1t64     libsoup-3.0-0         libudisks2-0
Verwenden Sie »apt autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen.

Upgrading:
  7zip                  gnupg-utils     gpg-wks-server  iproute2              libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common  libpam-systemd       libsystemd0     linux-libc-dev       python3-numpy              systemd-container  udev
  busybox               gpg             gpgconf         libcpupower1          libnss-myhostname        libpoppler-glib8t64  libudev1        openssh-client       python3-requests           systemd-coredump
  dirmngr               gpg-agent       gpgsm           libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0   libnss-mymachines        libpoppler134        libyuv0         openssh-server       python3-typing-extensions  systemd-sysv
  gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0  gpg-wks-client  gpgv            libgdk-pixbuf2.0-bin  libnss-systemd           libsystemd-shared    linux-cpupower  openssh-sftp-server  systemd                    systemd-timesyncd

REMOVING:
  gnupg  gnupg2  gvfs  gvfs-backends  gvfs-daemons  libblockdev-crypto3  libvolume-key1  udisks2

Summary:
  Upgrading: 41, Installing: 0, Removing: 8, Not Upgrading: 0
  Download size: 28,1 MB
  Freed space: 11,9 MB

Continue? [J/n] n
Abbruch.

Mich stört, dass das Paket udisks2 ersatzlos entfernt werden soll. Deshalb habe ich erst einmal abgebrochen.
Ist Euch etwas bereits bekannt?
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It bothers me that the udisks2 package is to be removed without replacement. That's why I canceled it for the time being.
Are you already aware of anything?

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inxi -Sxxx
System:
  Host: labwc Kernel: 6.8.9-1-siduction-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    compiler: gcc v: 13.2.0 clocksource: tsc
  Desktop: LabWC v: N/A with: waybar tools: swayidle vt: 1 dm: N/A
    Distro: siduction 2023.1.1 giants - nox - (202401191535) base: Debian
    GNU/Linux trixie/sid
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Free Speech / Re: Hey My Fellow Sids!
« Last post by Ze_Mind on Yesterday at 05:03:02 »
I distro hopped for years. I've used Linux since 1999. I used Slackware for years and then went to a LAN party and was shown the beauty of Debian. I hopped Debian distros for years and landed on Mint Debian edition for a while. I like latest and greatest and found siduction back in oh, 2017 I think. I haven't looked back and only installed a new distro on a ventoy USB stick to play with and then I'm back to my SID. Like the others have said, updates are a part of this, but then you get the latest and greatest, if you know how to manage your OS then you're golden, the community has been awesome for me and I always check the upgrade warning when there is a disturbance in the force. The latest was the 64 bit transition. Many dared to walk the path first and I am grateful. My system was at 900+ updates when I got ready to do the update. I did copy the to be removed and to be installed and checked every single one. It was tedious but I was confident in what was being removed and installed. Clicked the go button and had zero issues. Those who walked before me and provided info gave me the confidence. Not sure that helped AT ALL but just throwing in my vote to go for it. Run it on a system and force yourself to use that system for a few months. That should give you a good idea of life with Siduction. I dist-upgrade once week and during big transitions just apt upgrade until things settle, then dist-upgrade. That's the general rule besides check the upgrade warnings.

Yeah, when I was on arch, there's always something I was missing. Something that I never forgot from Squeeze days. apt. It's just drilled in my head. sudo apt _____

I'll try this out on my laptop, an old ThinkPad, before I dump Sparky.
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Free Speech / Re: Hey My Fellow Sids!
« Last post by RunLevelZero on Yesterday at 01:00:09 »
I distro hopped for years. I've used Linux since 1999. I used Slackware for years and then went to a LAN party and was shown the beauty of Debian. I hopped Debian distros for years and landed on Mint Debian edition for a while. I like latest and greatest and found siduction back in oh, 2017 I think. I haven't looked back and only installed a new distro on a ventoy USB stick to play with and then I'm back to my SID. Like the others have said, updates are a part of this, but then you get the latest and greatest, if you know how to manage your OS then you're golden, the community has been awesome for me and I always check the upgrade warning when there is a disturbance in the force. The latest was the 64 bit transition. Many dared to walk the path first and I am grateful. My system was at 900+ updates when I got ready to do the update. I did copy the to be removed and to be installed and checked every single one. It was tedious but I was confident in what was being removed and installed. Clicked the go button and had zero issues. Those who walked before me and provided info gave me the confidence. Not sure that helped AT ALL but just throwing in my vote to go for it. Run it on a system and force yourself to use that system for a few months. That should give you a good idea of life with Siduction. I dist-upgrade once week and during big transitions just apt upgrade until things settle, then dist-upgrade. That's the general rule besides check the upgrade warnings.
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Hardware - Support / Problems with AMD Graphics and Kernel 6.8
« Last post by finotti on 2024/05/16, 17:02:03 »
I have a AMD Navi 24 [Radeon RX 6300] card that does not work on any version 6.8.* kernel.  At first I thought it was due to the fact I was using multiple monitors and cards, but even a single monitor connected to the AMD card does not work.  It works without problems with versions 6.7* or earlier.

Here is some information about the system:

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$ inxi -G
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Raptor Lake-S GT1 [UHD Graphics 770] driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: AMD Navi 24 [Radeon RX 6300] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Device-3: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: amdgpu,i915
    resolution: 1: 1080x1920~60Hz 2: 2560x1440~60Hz 3: 1920x1200~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: iris,radeonsi,swrast
    platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.0.7-1
    renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (RPL-S)

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$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Device a700 (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Raptor Lake PCI Express 5.0 Graphics Port (PEG010) (rev 01)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Raptor Lake-S GT1 [UHD Graphics 770] (rev 04)
00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Raptor Lake Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Processor Participant (rev 01)
00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation GNA Scoring Accelerator module (rev 01)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 XHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:14.2 RAM memory: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH Shared SRAM (rev 11)
00:15.0 Serial bus controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH Serial IO I2C Controller #0 (rev 11)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH HECI Controller #1 (rev 11)
00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH SATA Controller [AHCI Mode] (rev 11)
00:1b.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH PCI Express Root Port #21 (rev 11)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Device 7a83 (rev 11)
00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S HD Audio Controller (rev 11)
00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH SMBus Controller (rev 11)
00:1f.5 Serial bus controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH SPI Controller (rev 11)
00:1f.6 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (17) I219-LM (rev 11)
01:00.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 10 XL Upstream Port of PCI Express Switch
02:00.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 10 XL Downstream Port of PCI Express Switch
03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 24 [Radeon RX 6300]
03:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio Controller
04:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: SK hynix Platinum P41/PC801 NVMe Solid State Drive

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$ inxi -v3
System:
  Host: dell7010 Kernel: 6.7.12-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
    v: 13.2.0
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.10 Distro: siduction 22.1.2 Masters_of_War -
    kde - (202303220911) base: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex SFF Plus 7010 v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 0YGWFV v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell
    v: 1.13.1 date: 03/11/2024
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse MX Master 3
    charge: 100% (should be ignored) status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: 24-core model: 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900 bits: 64 type: MCP
    smt: disabled arch: Raptor Lake rev: 1 cache: L1: 2.1 MiB L2: 32 MiB
    L3: 36 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 947 high: 1495 min/max: 800/5300:5600:4200 cores: 1: 800
    2: 800 3: 1495 4: 1477 5: 800 6: 1487 7: 1323 8: 800 9: 839 10: 800 11: 800
    12: 800 13: 800 14: 800 15: 1333 16: 1180 17: 800 18: 800 19: 800 20: 800
    21: 800 22: 800 23: 800 24: 800 bogomips: 95846
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Raptor Lake-S GT1 [UHD Graphics 770] vendor: Dell
    driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-13 bus-ID: 00:02.0
  Device-2: AMD Navi 24 [Radeon RX 6300] vendor: Dell driver: amdgpu
    v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 bus-ID: 03:00.0
  Device-3: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB bus-ID: 1-10:6
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: amdgpu,i915
    resolution: 1: 1080x1920~60Hz 2: 2560x1440~60Hz 3: 1920x1200~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.0.7-1 glx-v: 1.4
    direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (RPL-S)
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-LM vendor: Dell driver: e1000e v: kernel
    port: N/A bus-ID: 00:1f.6
  IF: enp0s31f6 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
    mac: cc:96:e5:1f:61:3b
  IF-ID-1: mpqemubr0 state: up speed: 10000 Mbps duplex: unknown
    mac: 52:54:00:9b:02:5c
  IF-ID-2: tap-1dfd44cc333 state: up speed: 10000 Mbps duplex: full
    mac: f6:6d:b4:f3:07:1a
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 953.88 GiB used: 654.25 GiB (68.6%)
Info:
  Memory: total: 128 GiB note: est. available: 125.5 GiB
    used: 14.24 GiB (11.3%)
  Processes: 538 Uptime: 1h 18m Init: systemd target: graphical (5)
  Packages: 4493 Compilers: gcc: 13.2.0 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.21 inxi: 3.3.34

Here is an Xorg.0.log of an attempt: https://paste.debian.net/1317151/ where you can see

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[    12.673] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[    12.673] (EE)
Fatal server error:
[    12.673] (EE) no screens found(EE)

I cannot even boot into a VT with the boot option '3', as I get only a blank screen.   And I see no relevant error with "journalctl -p err -b".

Any suggestions?

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I thought there  was need for a new patch from nvidia to make it work with 6.8.x and therefor was waiting for new nvidia packages all the time.  I may have misunderstood one of your postings ...

Anyway, modules for 6.8.x are build and system is rebooted ... all is fine.


Thanks
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