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Offline Mte90

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[EN] KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« on: 2024/08/29, 17:11:57 »
Reading on http://new.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/1dw8k7b/comment/lcse6f3/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 seems that on experimental something is happening.
Do you suggest to migrate to those packages?

We had repositories to get KDE early on Debian few years ago but now they are not updated so I was looking for an alternative.

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #1 on: 2024/09/09, 14:56:28 »
No one with thoughts.

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #2 on: 2024/09/09, 16:38:08 »
Not sure if these are all complete packages that are fully installable yet. Soon Plasma 6.2 will come out that will be a major bugfix release.

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #3 on: 2024/09/10, 12:22:59 »
Yeah but in the meantime we are still without Plasma 6, I was asking here just in case someone has better info about what is going on and if migrate to those packages is worth it.

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #4 on: 2024/09/11, 13:58:18 »
Took Fedora 40 which has Plasma 6.1.4 (on Wayland) for a spin on a spare disk and it was a good experience. Haven't encountered any major issues and it's cutest feature was a wiggle the mouse to enlarge the pointer so you can see it which is a good feature to find a tiny pointer on a huge screen. The default theme's pretty amazing too.

Hopefully Plasma 6.2 (which is coming) will be the version to arrive in Debian Unstable...we shall see!

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #5 on: 2024/09/11, 14:35:53 »
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Operating System: siduction 22.1.0
KDE Plasma Version: 6.1.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.5.0
Qt Version: 6.6.2
Kernel Version: 6.11-rc7-siduction-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor
Memory: 78.5 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon RX 7600 XT
Manufacturer: CSL-Computer GmbH & Co. KG
Product Name: A0000001

If one knows, what he is doing, it's possible, but if i look at your other posts, i wouldn't recommend it.
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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #6 on: 2024/09/11, 14:40:50 »
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Operating System: siduction 22.1.0
KDE Plasma Version: 6.1.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.5.0
Qt Version: 6.6.2
Kernel Version: 6.11-rc7-siduction-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor
Memory: 78.5 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon RX 7600 XT
Manufacturer: CSL-Computer GmbH & Co. KG
Product Name: A0000001

If one knows, what he is doing, it's possible, but if i look at your other posts, i wouldn't recommend it.

I should go try this in my old "guinea pig" laptop. Any guide how to properly upgrade KDE 5.27 to the 6.1.4 when using the experimental repo?

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #7 on: 2024/09/11, 15:25:22 »
I guess

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apt install plasma-desktop -t experimental
should be enough to update it

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #8 on: 2024/10/10, 11:29:47 »
any updates?

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #9 on: 2024/10/10, 12:33:51 »
Install it and find out.

Offline whistler_mb

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #10 on: 2024/10/10, 13:01:52 »
It should be installable now. Maybe I give it a try at the weekend.

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~# LANG=C apt install plasma-desktop -t experimental -d
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  frameworkintegration  libkdecorations2private10   libkf5kdelibs4support5t64  libkfontinstui5            liboxygenstyle5-6                 libtaskmanager6abi1             qml-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem
  kde-style-oxygen-qt5  libkf5globalaccelprivate5   libkf5screen-data          libkwineffects14           liboxygenstyleconfig5-5           libxres1                        qml-module-org-kde-pipewire
  khotkeys              libkf5holidays-data         libkf5screen8              libkwinglutils14           libplasma-geolocation-interface5  qml-module-org-kde-activities   qml-module-org-kde-quickcharts
  khotkeys-data         libkf5holidays5             libkf5screendpms8          liblayershellqtinterface5  libpowerdevilui5                  qml-module-org-kde-kcmutils     qml-module-org-kde-solid
  libappstreamqt5-3     libkf5kdelibs4support-data  libkf6dbusaddons-bin       liblivemedia112            libqt5virtualkeyboard5            qml-module-org-kde-kholidays    qml-module-org-kde-syntaxhighlighting
  libcolorcorrect5      libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin  libkfontinst5              liboxygenstyle5-5          libqt5webview5                    qml-module-org-kde-kitemmodels  qml-module-qtquick-virtualkeyboard
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.

Upgrading:
  bluedevil                     kscreen                    libkf6iconthemes6         libqt6networkauth6       libqt6svgwidgets6           plasma-desktop-data              python3-pyqt6.qtquick                qml6-module-qtquick-layouts
  breeze                        ksshaskpass                libkf6iconwidgets6        libqt6opengl6            libqt6test6                 plasma-discover                  python3-pyqt6.qtsvg                  qml6-module-qtquick-localstorage
  breeze-cursor-theme           ksystemstats               libkf6jobwidgets6         libqt6openglwidgets6     libqt6texttospeech6         plasma-discover-backend-flatpak  python3-pyqt6.qttexttospeech         qml6-module-qtquick-nativestyle
  breeze-gtk-theme              kwin-common                libkf6windowsystem6       libqt6positioning6       libqt6virtualkeyboard6      plasma-discover-backend-fwupd    python3-pyqt6.qtwebchannel           qml6-module-qtquick-particles
  calibre-bin                   kwin-data                  libkf6xmlgui6             libqt6printsupport6      libqt6waylandclient6        plasma-discover-common           qml6-module-org-kde-kirigami         qml6-module-qtquick-shapes
  digikam                       kwin-style-breeze          libkirigami6              libqt6qml6               libqt6waylandcompositor6    plasma-disks                     qml6-module-qt-labs-animation        qml6-module-qtquick-templates
  digikam-private-libs          kwin-wayland               libkirigamidelegates6     libqt6qmlmodels6         libqt6webchannel6           plasma-framework                 qml6-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel  qml6-module-qtquick-timeline
  drkonqi                       kwin-x11                   libkirigamiplatform6      libqt6qmlworkerscript6   libqt6webchannelquick6      plasma-integration               qml6-module-qt-labs-platform         qml6-module-qtquick-tooling
  kactivitymanagerd             kwrited                    libnotificationmanager1   libqt6quick6             libqt6webengine6-data       plasma-nm                        qml6-module-qt-labs-qmlmodels        qml6-module-qtquick-virtualkeyboard
  kde-cli-tools                 layer-shell-qt             libpam-kwallet-common     libqt6quickcontrols2-6   libqt6webenginecore6        plasma-pa                        qml6-module-qt-labs-settings         qml6-module-qtquick-window
  kde-cli-tools-data            libkf5globalaccel-bin      libpam-kwallet5           libqt6quickshapes6       libqt6webenginecore6-bin    plasma-systemmonitor             qml6-module-qt-labs-sharedimage      qml6-module-qttest
  kde-config-gtk-style          libkf5globalaccel-data     libpowerdevilcore2        libqt6quicktemplates2-6  libqt6webenginequick6       plasma-thunderbolt               qml6-module-qt-labs-wavefrontmesh    qt6-gtk-platformtheme
  kde-config-gtk-style-preview  libkf5globalaccel5         libqt6bodymovin6          libqt6quicktest6         libqt6webenginewidgets6     plasma-vault                     qml6-module-qtcore                   qt6-qpa-plugins
  kde-config-screenlocker       libkf5globalaccelprivate5  libqt6concurrent6         libqt6quickwidgets6      libqt6widgets6              plasma-workspace                 qml6-module-qtqml                    qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin
  kde-config-sddm               libkf5plasma-dev           libqt6core5compat6        libqt6spatialaudio6      libqt6wlshellintegration6   plasma-workspace-data            qml6-module-qtqml-models             qt6-wayland
  kde-config-updates            libkf5plasma-doc           libqt6core6t64            libqt6sql6               libqt6xml6                  polkit-kde-agent-1               qml6-module-qtqml-statemachine       qt6-xdgdesktopportal-platformtheme
  kde-style-breeze              libkf5plasma5              libqt6dbus6               libqt6sql6-mysql         libweather-ion7             powerdevil                       qml6-module-qtqml-workerscript       sddm-theme-breeze
  kde-style-oxygen-qt5          libkf5plasmaquick5         libqt6gui6                libqt6sql6-psql          milou                       powerdevil-data                  qml6-module-qtqml-xmllistmodel       systemsettings
  kinfocenter                   libkf6configwidgets6       libqt6multimedia6         libqt6sql6-sqlite        oxygen-sounds               python3-pyqt6                    qml6-module-qtquick                  xdg-desktop-portal-kde
  kio6                          libkf6dbusaddons6          libqt6multimediawidgets6  libqt6statemachine6      plasma-browser-integration  python3-pyqt6.qtmultimedia       qml6-module-qtquick-controls
  kmenuedit                     libkf6iconthemes-bin       libqt6network6            libqt6svg6               plasma-desktop              python3-pyqt6.qtqml              qml6-module-qtquick-dialogs

Installing dependencies:
  breeze-wallpaper           libkf6configqml6               libkf6su-data                  libkpipewirerecord6               libplasmaactivities6           power-profiles-daemon                          qml6-module-org-kde-networkmanager
  frameworkintegration6      libkf6declarative-data         libkf6su6                      libkscreen-bin                    libplasmaactivitiesstats1      python3-sentry-sdk                             qml6-module-org-kde-notifications
  kaccounts-providers        libkf6holidays-data            libkf6svg6                     libkscreen-data                   libplasmaquick6                qdbus-qt6                                      qml6-module-org-kde-pipewire
  kde-style-oxygen-qt6       libkf6holidays6                libkf6syntaxhighlighting-data  libkscreenlocker6                 libprocesscore10               qml6-module-org-kde-activities                 qml6-module-org-kde-plasma-plasma5support
  kgamma                     libkf6i18nlocaledata6          libkf6syntaxhighlighting6      libksysguard-data                 libqaccessibilityclient-qt6-0  qml6-module-org-kde-baloo                      qml6-module-org-kde-quickcharts
  kglobalacceld              libkf6idletime6                libkf6texteditor-bin           libksysguardformatter2            libqcoro6core0t64              qml6-module-org-kde-breeze                     qml6-module-org-kde-sonnet
  kirigami-addons-data       libkf6itemmodels6              libkf6texteditor-data          libksysguardsensorfaces2          libqcoro6dbus0t64              qml6-module-org-kde-config                     qml6-module-org-kde-syntaxhighlighting
  kwayland6-data             libkf6modemmanagerqt6          libkf6texteditor-katepart      libksysguardsensors2              libqt6sensors6                 qml6-module-org-kde-coreaddons                 qml6-module-org-kde-userfeedback
  libaccounts-qt6-1          libkf6networkmanagerqt6        libkf6texteditor6              libksysguardsystemstats2          libqt6shadertools6             qml6-module-org-kde-desktop                    qml6-module-qt5compat-graphicaleffects
  libappstreamqt3            libkf6parts-data               libkf6unitconversion-data      libkwaylandclient6                libqt6uitools6                 qml6-module-org-kde-draganddrop                qml6-module-qtmultimedia
  libbatterycontrol6         libkf6parts6                   libkf6unitconversion6          libkwin6                          libqt6webview6                 qml6-module-org-kde-graphicaleffects           qml6-module-qtqml-base
  libcolorcorrect6           libkf6pty-data                 libkf6userfeedback-data        libkworkspace6-6                  libquickcharts1                qml6-module-org-kde-iconthemes                 qml6-module-qtquick-effects
  libddcutil5                libkf6pty6                     libkf6userfeedback-doc         liblayershellqtinterface6         libquickchartscontrols1        qml6-module-org-kde-kholidays                  qml6-module-qtwebengine
  libdisplay-info2           libkf6pulseaudioqt5            libkf6userfeedbackcore6        liboxygenstyle5-6                 libsignon-plugins-common1      qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-components  qml6-module-qtwebview
  libeis1                    libkf6qqc2desktopstyle-data    libkfontinst6                  liboxygenstyle6-6                 libsignon-qt6-1                qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-delegates   signon-plugin-oauth2
  libkaccounts6-2            libkf6runner6                  libkfontinstui6                liboxygenstyleconfig6-6           libtaskmanager6                qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-formcard    wayland-utils
  libkdecorations2-6         libkf6screen8                  libkglobalacceld0              libpackagekitqt6-1                ocean-sound-theme              qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-tableview   xwaylandvideobridge
  libkdecorations2private11  libkf6screendpms8              libklipper6                    libphonon4qt6-4t64                plasma-activities-bin          qml6-module-org-kde-kitemmodels
  libkexiv2qt6-0             libkf6statusnotifieritem-data  libkmpris6                     libplasma-geolocation-interface6  plasma-desktop-doc             qml6-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols
  libkf6baloo6               libkf6statusnotifieritem6      libkpipewire-data              libplasma5support-data            plasma-desktoptheme            qml6-module-org-kde-ksvg
  libkf6balooengine6         libkf6style6                   libkpipewire6                  libplasma5support6                plasma-workspace-doc           qml6-module-org-kde-ksysguard
  libkf6calendarevents6      libkf6su-bin                   libkpipewiredmabuf6            libplasma6                        plasma5-integration            qml6-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem

REMOVING:
  kdegraphics  libkdecorations2-5v5  libkf5sysguard-data  libksgrd9               libksysguardsensorfaces1  libksysguardsystemstats1  libprocessui9             qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard
  kgamma5      libkf5screen-bin      libkscreenlocker5    libksysguardformatter1  libksysguardsensors1      libprocesscore9           plasma-workspace-wayland

Summary:
  Upgrading: 166, Installing: 149, Removing: 15, Not Upgrading: 787
  Download size: 305 MB
  Space needed: 183 MB / 13,3 GB available

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #11 on: 2024/10/10, 17:24:56 »
Bei mir ist das Update mit ein paar Stolpersteinen durchgelaufen.
Ich musste einmal

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dpkg -i --force overwrite
und ein paar Mal

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apt --fix-broken install
anwenden und dann jeweils nochmal

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apt install plasma-desktop -t experimental
ausführen, dann war es gut.
KDE Plasma 6 aus experimental läuft bei mir bei zwei Installationen.
Einzig  plasma-workspace-wayland steht nicht mehr zur Verfügung bzw. ist nicht installierbar. Macht aber nichts, dann läuft es eben auf X11.

UPDATE: Habe gerade gemerkt, dass die Plasma-Wayland-Sitzung doch zur Verfügung steht, alles gut!

Kann natürlich für andere Hardware und Installationen nichts garantieren, nachmachen nur auf eigene Gefahr!
« Last Edit: 2024/10/10, 17:48:20 by cs »

Offline whistler_mb

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #12 on: 2024/10/11, 17:43:09 »
Bei mir lief die Installation recht problemlos durch.

Im Anschluss habe noch das Upgrade auf experimental für paar Anwendungen gemacht.

Und ein paar Einstellungen musste ich neu setzen.

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Re: KDE Plasma 6 on experimental
« Reply #13 on: 2024/10/11, 21:28:54 »
KDE-Plasma 6.2.0 ist verfügbar:

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System:
  Kernel: 6.11.3-1-siduction-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 6.2.0 Distro: siduction 2023.1.1 giants - nox -
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