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Title: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: michaa7 on 2014/07/09, 01:44:12
Here nvidia legacy 304 would be removed, YMMV

Aufpassen auf die proprietären graphiktreiber wegen xserver-xorg update!
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: piper on 2014/07/09, 01:45:39
Not just legacy ;)


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The following packages will be REMOVED:
  nvidia-driver xserver-xorg-video-nvidia xserver-xorg-video-qxl
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libepoxy0
The following packages will be upgraded:
  acpi-fakekey acpi-support acpi-support-base adequate alsa-utils cdebootstrap cvs efibootmgr foremost gnupg gpgv libasound2 libasound2:i386
  libasound2-data libatspi2.0-0 libefivar0 libeot0 libhunspell-1.3-0 libmpg123-0 libmpg123-0:i386 libxml-parser-perl linux-libc-dev
  mesa-utils mpg123 openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-headless python-debianbts python-gdbm python-pkg-resources python3-pkg-resources
  signing-party unrar-free xserver-common xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
  xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
41 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 53.4 MB of archives.
After this operation, 18.3 MB disk space will be freed.
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: seasons on 2014/07/09, 02:01:44
https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/xserver1.16.html
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: towo on 2014/07/09, 08:08:22
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towo@Druck-Buero:~$ LANG=C apt-cache policy nvidia-driver
nvidia-driver:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 340.17-0.siduction.2
  Version table:
     340.17-0.siduction.2 0
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/user/ unstable/non-free amd64 Packages
     337.25-0.siduction.3 0
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/experimental/ unstable/non-free amd64 Packages
     337.19-1 0
          1 http://http.debian.net/debian/ experimental/non-free amd64 Packages
          1 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ experimental/non-free amd64 Packages
     331.79-1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ sid/non-free amd64 Packages
     331.67-2 0
        400 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing/non-free amd64 Packages
     331.67-1.siduction.1 0
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/fixes/ unstable/non-free amd64 PackagesFor non-legacy cards, 340.17 supports xserver 1.16.
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: towo on 2014/07/09, 10:24:11
I have uploaded nvidia 340.24, which is the new long-lived driver-branch.

Also read http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/ (http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/)
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: piper on 2014/07/09, 11:51:15
Danke towo

Thank you towo
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: michaa7 on 2014/07/09, 13:43:10
Quote from: seasons on 2014/07/09, 02:01:44
https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/xserver1.16.html

What does this mean for nvidia legacy driver (304): It isn't built yet or it won't ever be built?

In the latter case, what are my choices: Using the nouveau driver (which always was problematic with my card) or buy an old, used AGP/PCI card (must have a look which one it is in my ageing MB)?
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: melmarker on 2014/07/09, 17:06:30
Wie wäre es, einfach bei einem unterstützten X zu bleiben?
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: seasons on 2014/07/09, 17:22:14
Quote from: michaa7
What does this mean for nvidia legacy driver (304): It isn't built yet or it won't ever be built?

Nvidia has not released an update yet, but they are planning to: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/754151/linux/304-121-with-xorg-1-16/post/4243802/#4243802 (https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/754151/linux/304-121-with-xorg-1-16/post/4243802/#4243802)

You may want to subscribe to:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754251 (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754251)
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: ralul on 2014/07/09, 20:33:21
Quote from: towo on 2014/07/09, 10:24:11
I have uploaded nvidia 340.24, which is the new long-lived driver-branch.
Very thanx ! Runs wonderfully!
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$ dpkg -l | egrep -e'nvidia' -e'xorg'

ii  glx-alternative-nvidia                    0.4.1                             amd64        allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider
ii  libegl1-nvidia:amd64                      340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary EGL libraries
ii  libgl1-nvidia-glx:amd64                   340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary OpenGL libraries
ii  libgles2-nvidia:amd64                     340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary OpenGL|ES 2.x libraries
ii  libnvidia-eglcore:amd64                   340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary EGL core libraries
ii  libnvidia-ml1:amd64                       340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA Management Library (NVML) runtime library
ii  nvidia-alternative                        340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider
ii  nvidia-detect                             340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA GPU detection utility
ii  nvidia-driver                             340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA metapackage
ii  nvidia-glx                                340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        transition to nvidia-driver
ii  nvidia-installer-cleanup                  20131102+1                        amd64        cleanup after driver installation with the nvidia-installer
ii  nvidia-kernel-common                      20131102+1                        amd64        NVIDIA binary kernel module support files
ii  nvidia-kernel-dkms                        340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source
ii  nvidia-modprobe                           334.16-1                          amd64        utility to load NVIDIA kernel modules and create device nodes
ii  nvidia-settings                           331.79-1                          amd64        tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
ii  nvidia-smi                                340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA System Management Interface
ii  nvidia-support                            20131102+1                        amd64        NVIDIA binary graphics driver support files
ii  nvidia-vdpau-driver:amd64                 340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA vdpau driver
ii  xorg-docs-core                            1:1.7-1                           all          Core documentation for the X.org X Window System
ii  xserver-xorg                              1:7.7+7                           amd64        X.Org X server
ii  xserver-xorg-core                         2:1.15.99.904-1                   amd64        Xorg X server - core server
ii  xserver-xorg-input-evdev                  1:2.8.2-1+b2                      amd64        X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-nvidia                 340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary Xorg driver

$ uname -r
3.15.4-1123.bna
 dkms automatically built the required proprietary nvidia modules for my homebrew bfs enabled linux kernel also ...
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: towo on 2014/07/09, 21:10:48
You should update nvidia-settings since you have an ancient version installed.
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towo:Defiant> LANG=C apt-cache policy nvidia-settings
nvidia-settings:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 340.17-0.siduction.1
  Version table:
     340.17-0.siduction.1 0
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/user/ unstable/contrib amd64 Packages
     337.25-0.siduction.1 0
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/experimental/ unstable/contrib amd64 Packages
     331.67-1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ testing/contrib amd64 Packages
     304.88-1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable/contrib amd64 Packages
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: michaa7 on 2014/07/09, 21:15:37
Quote from: melmarker on 2014/07/09, 17:06:30
Wie wäre es, einfach bei einem unterstützten X zu bleiben?

Solange das geht ist das natürlich ok. Und klar habe ich meine nvidia legacy pakete auf hold gesetzt. Aber wir wissen beide, dass SID voranschreitet und pakete auftauchen werden die auf basis der neueren ABI  kompiliert wurden.
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: ralul on 2014/07/09, 22:30:56
Ups, I didn't activate user contrib repository of siduction. As Towo pointed to me, now:
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ii  libegl1-nvidia:amd64                      340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary EGL libraries
ii  libgl1-nvidia-glx:amd64                   340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary OpenGL libraries
ii  libgles2-nvidia:amd64                     340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary OpenGL|ES 2.x libraries
ii  libnvidia-eglcore:amd64                   340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary EGL core libraries
ii  libnvidia-ml1:amd64                       340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA Management Library (NVML) runtime library
ii  libxnvctrl0                               340.17-0.siduction.1              amd64        NV-CONTROL X extension (runtime library)
ii  nvidia-alternative                        340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider
ii  nvidia-detect                             340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA GPU detection utility
ii  nvidia-driver                             340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA metapackage
ii  nvidia-glx                                340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        transition to nvidia-driver
ii  nvidia-kernel-dkms                        340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source
ii  nvidia-settings                           340.17-0.siduction.1              amd64        tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
ii  nvidia-smi                                340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA System Management Interface
ii  nvidia-vdpau-driver:amd64                 340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA vdpau driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-nvidia                 340.24-0.siduction.1              amd64        NVIDIA binary Xorg driverThe new nvidia-340.24 proprietary driver also runs with xorg-1.15
I proved using my Gentoo partition.
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: melmarker on 2014/07/10, 01:01:43
michaa7: Das mit den abi-changes würde ich nicht überbewerten. Das ganze X-Öko-System ist in sich konsistent, da wird es keine Probleme geben - hoffe ich, war zumindest in den letzten Jahren so.
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: melmarker on 2014/07/10, 20:21:30
und nu war towo so liep und hat neue 304er Pakete gebaut. Auf meiner Möhre funktionieren die auch problemlos
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: michaa7 on 2014/07/11, 12:09:25
Siehste!

Ich wollt' schon fast schreiben nvidia hätte das problem beseitigt als ich eben beim d-u (gefaked mit "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade --ignore-hold -d") feststellte dass nichts entfernt werden soll.

Danke towo!
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: lumpi on 2014/07/17, 21:27:57
Quote from: towo on 2014/07/09, 10:24:11
I have uploaded nvidia 340.24, which is the new long-lived driver-branch.

Also read http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/ (http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/)

Wo findet man diesen Treiber? Auf meinem PC soll der Nvidia-Treiber bei einem Dist-Upgrade entfernt werden. Wenn ich alle zu entfernenden Pakete auf hold setze, werden die Xorg-Pakete auch zurückgehalten.
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: towo on 2014/07/17, 21:52:42
Quote from: lumpi on 2014/07/17, 21:27:57
Quote from: towo on 2014/07/09, 10:24:11
I have uploaded nvidia 340.24, which is the new long-lived driver-branch.

Also read http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/ (http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/)

Wo findet man diesen Treiber? Auf meinem PC soll der Nvidia-Treiber bei einem Dist-Upgrade entfernt werden. Wenn ich alle zu entfernenden Pakete auf hold setze, werden die Xorg-Pakete auch zurückgehalten.
In unserem Fixes-Repo.
Title: Re: xserver-xorg update. pay attention to you proprietarty graphic drivers
Post by: devil on 2014/07/20, 07:56:30
Seit gestern ist 340.24-1 auch in  unstable.


greetz
devil