[EN] Shut down

[belze]

My system is not able to shut down properly. It hangs at last voice, and i have to long press the power button (i have a laptop). At reboot i have no error message of incorrect shutdown. I don't know if it is a hardware or software problem. It worked till some days ago with aptosid.
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System:    Host: celeborn Kernel: 3.1-6.towo.3-siduction-686 i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.6.2)
           Desktop KDE 4.7.4 (Qt 4.7.4) Distro: siduction 11.1 One Step Beyond - kde - (201112302148)                                                                                                                                              
Machine:   System: Acer product: Aspire 4810T version: V2.35                                                                                                                                                                                      
           Mobo: Acer model: Aspire 4810T Bios: INSYDE version: V2.35 date: 04/13/2010                                                                                                                                                            
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo CPU U9400 (-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 5586.06                                                                                                                
           Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz                                                                                                                                                                                              
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0                                                                                                                                                    
           Card-2: ATI M92 LP [Mobility Radeon HD 4300 Series] bus-ID: 01:00.0                                                                                                                                                                    
           X.Org: 1.11.2.902 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz                                                                                                                                                    
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 7.11.2 Direct Rendering: Yes                                                                                                                
Network:   Card-1: Intel WiFi Link 5100 driver: iwlagn ver: in-tree: bus-ID: 03:00.0                                                                                                                                                              
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 00:22:fb:6b:e7:8c                                                                                                                                                                                            
           Card-2: Atheros AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet driver: atl1c ver: 1.0.1.0-NAPI port: 3000 bus-ID: 02:00.0                                                                                                                                      
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:1f:16:ae:80:53                                                                                                                                                                  
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (1.3% used) 1: /dev/sda Hitachi_HTS54503 320.1GB                                                                                                                                                                
Partition: ID: / size: 78G used: 5.2G (8%) fs: rootfs ID: / size: 78G used: 5.2G (8%) fs: ext4                                                                                                                                                    
           ID: /home size: 52G used: 4.0G (9%) fs: ext4 ID: /boot size: 97M used: 19M (20%) fs: ext2                                                                                                                                              
           ID: swap-1 size: 2.62GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap                                                                                                                                                                                      
Info:      Processes: 167 Uptime: 14 min Memory: 603.5/2973.9MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.6.2 Client: Shell inxi: 1.7.27

[devil]

It hangs at last voice

What does that mean exactly?
How do You try to shut down? Does it work from konsole?
How did you upgrade to KDE 4.7.4?

greetz
devil

[belze]

thank you for these questions

What does that mean exactly?

it means: i have a console screen where it shows services disable correctly and at least "shutting down" or something like that.

How do You try to shut down? Does it work from konsole?

i shut down using kde menu. I will try using console with halt as su user. This is fresh siduction kde install, except for upgrading using experimental kde

How did you upgrade to KDE 4.7.4?

i used instructions in qt-kde debian page using their preferences file.

[sepps]

I've the same problem with an asus notebook.

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System:    Host: asus Kernel: 3.2-0.towo.3-siduction-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.6.2)
           Desktop KDE 4.7.2 (Qt 4.7.4) Distro: siduction 11.1-rc One Step Beyond - kde-lite - (201112212148)
Machine:   System: ASUSTeK product: F3T version: 1.0 serial: NB-1234567890
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: F3T version: 1.00 serial: NB-0123456789
           Bios: American Megatrends version: F3TAS.229 date: 11/07/2008
CPU:       Dual core AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 svm) bmips: 8036.72
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2009.184 MHz 2: 2009.184 MHz
Graphics:  Card: nVidia G73 [GeForce Go 7600] bus-ID: 04:00.0
           X.org: 1.11.3.901 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: vesa,fbdev) tty size: 179x37 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network:   Card-1: Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath5k bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:15:af:26:a8:ba
           Card-2: nVidia MCP51 Ethernet Controller driver: forcedeth port: bc00 bus-ID: 00:14.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:1a:92:cf:29:2a
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (50.5% used) 1: ST9160821AS
Info:      Processes: 197 Uptime: 1:10 Memory: 1158.5/2008.4MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.6.2 Client: Shell inxi: 1.7.27
I leave the system with shut down on KDE, the system goes down and stops with
" Will now halt"
"[SOME NUMBERS] Power down"

The system stay in the console and switches not off.
I have to press the powerbutton for about 5 seconds, then is the system off.

Shutdown -n-P now from the console fails too.

I've tried in the grub menue "acpi=off"
The result is the same in letters like above "" and if i press then the powerbutten, the system switches immediately off.

I started siduction.iso from a usb-stick, the result is, the system switches not off. I tried aptosid2011_02.iso, the same result as describt before. aptosid2011_01.iso switches the system down and off. A test with a sidux.iso is also good.

Since i have this problem, switch off, there is another one with the battery energy display. This means the battery is corrupt.

After this tests, my meaning is some moduls in the kernel do not cooperate.

If some logs requiered, please let me now, i will try to post it.

Thanks
sepps

[piper]

Does (as root in konsole)

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init 0

shut it down, or does it still hang ?

[sepps]

Does (as root in konsole)
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shut it down, or does it still hang ?

It still hang!!

sepps

[devil]

I cannot reproduce the problem on 2 boxes here. Shutdown from kmenu just works.

greetz
devil

[piper]

Although I don't have a laptop, I can't reproduce this on 4 desktop machines

[belze]

i got it solved with last kernel update. It was not due to kde, as it hunged using init or shutdown or halt from console. It did not happen using reboot, funny. Now it works well. Could be an hardware (or bios) bug?

[belze]

i sometime use vga_switcheroo to use my ATI card insted of intel integrated one. When i use the discrete card i noticed that suspen to RAM does not work. I usually turn again on the integrated one before shutdown. When i keep the ATI discrete on i am unable to turn off my laptop. It is true also using arch linux.

[sepps]

since kernel 3.3.2 my problem is solved. the last kernel which work was 2.6.37. i've read a lot posts from users, they have the same problem, after shut down, the systems switches not off. i think my notebook is very old, and have had a problem with acpi. a bios-update was not possible, there are no newer, than the installed.
  thanks