[closed] Large GCC-5 TRANSITION, Heavy DIST-UPGRADE pending

[ralul]

I purged all of Kde, sddm, vlc, kaffeine, xfce. I disabled siduction kdenext repos and only kept the Debian Sid unstable package list.

I can re-install pretty much of Kde but NOT Dolphin. It insists on an old tagging lib which is incompatible the one gstreamer-1.45 uses.

[ghstryder]

My list to be removed is down to 45, the lowest it has been in some time. Someone has been burning the midnight oil.

[tux]

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248 upgraded, 46 newly installed, 145 to remove and 5 not upgraded.

[Spike_DE]

yep, it's getting better...

301 aktualisiert, 22 neu installiert, 35 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.

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Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  aptitude dolphin juk k3b k3b-i18n kde-baseapps kde-plasma-desktop kde-standard kdepim kdepim-strigi-plugins krename ktorrent libasprintf0c2 libbaloowidgets4 libcwidget3 libebml4 libglibmm-2.4-1c2a libk3b6 libk3b6-extracodecs
  libkfilemetadata4 libmatroska6 libopenconnect2 libproxy1 libqpdf13 librlog5 libsigc++-2.0-0c2a libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libstrigihtmlgui0 libtag1-vanilla libtag1c2a libtagc0 moc nepomuk-core-runtime strigi-client


[vilde]

I have a fully dist-upgraded system, the only thing i know  is broken is audacious,  I never use it. My system is a 64 bit xfce, indian summer, multiarch. Google Earth works and Libre Office seems to work, I rarely use it. My Iceweasel is from experimental. If there is something someone want's me to try if it's working I can do so.

inxi -v3
System:    Host: T420 Kernel: 4.1.5-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.2.1)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.2 (Gtk 2.24.25)
           Distro: siduction 14.1.0 Indian Summer - xfce - (201411230427)
Machine:   System: LENOVO product: 25223FG v: ThinkPad T410
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 25223FG
           Bios: LENOVO v: 6IET85WW (1.45 ) date: 02/14/2013
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i7 M 620 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 10645
           clock speeds: max: 2667 MHz 1: 1199 MHz 2: 1199 MHz 3: 2667 MHz
           4: 1599 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218M [NVS 3100M] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.2 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1440x900@60.06hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVA8
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.6.3 Direct Rendering: Yes
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network Connection
           driver: e1000e v: 2.3.2-k port: 1820 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:26:2d:f3:8e:a0
           Card-2: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300
           driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:24:d7:06:72:fc
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 240.1GB (71.5% used) ID-1: model: Crucial_CT240M50
Info:      Processes: 210 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 644.7/3820.0MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.2.1
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.391) inxi: 2.2.26

apt-cache policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
  Installerad: 40.0-1
  Kandidat:    40.0-1
  Versionstabell:
 *** 40.0-1 0
          1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     38.2.0esr-1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages

[Santa]

I should try without kdenext

No, you shouldn't. kdenext is not something optional which you should enable or disable depending on your mood. That is a recipe to break your system.


Also you should not disable it in a trial-error fashion to see if problems are "magically" solved. That is also a recipe to break your system.


Regarding KDE, it's not safe to dist-upgrade yet.

[holgerw]

Hello,

please also look here:
http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5728.msg46914#msg46914

At this time (Saturday morning, 15.07.2015) adding kde flavour is not possibe, also with enabled kdenext repo.

Kind regards,
  Holger

[NochEinNeuer]

Derzeit  sieht es bei mir so aus:

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223 aktualisiert, 31 neu installiert, 21 zu entfernen wenn ich ein apt-get update und apt-get dist-upgrade machen würde. Bisher ging ich immer auf n beim dist-upgrade.
Ich vermute das ist weiterhin besser so?
Zum ENTFERNEN werden folgende aufgeführt:

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Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  libasprintf0c2 libbinio1ldbl libboost-date-time1.55.0 libcmis-0.5-5
  libcwidget3 libebml4 libept1.4.12 libglibmm-2.4-1c2a libgltf-0.0-0
  libmatroska6 liborcus-0.10-0 libprotobuf9 libproxy1 libqpdf13 librlog5
  libsidplay1 libsigc++-2.0-0c2a libtag1-vanilla libtag1c2a libxapian22
  printer-driver-brlaserAllerdings weis ich auch nicht ob von diesen Paketen nicht auch wirklich welche entfallen sind und daher nicht mehr benötigt würden....


Allerdings gehe ich mal davon aus, das weiterhin abwarten und Teetrinken angesagt ist?
Viele Grüße
NochEinNeuer

[vilde]

I did a post some day ago about being fully upgraded, after that I did a few more d-u without visible problems, no packages removed.

To avoid misunderstanding I want to point out that I don't say it's safe to d-u xfce, I do this because I think it's fun an at my own risk.

[bluelupo]

[...]
Allerdings gehe ich mal davon aus, das weiterhin abwarten und Teetrinken angesagt ist?
Viele Grüße
NochEinNeuer

....das wird die nächsten Wochen so weiter gehen. Also Füße stillhalten ;-)

[musca]

Hello NochEinNeuer,

I guess you don't use the KDE-Desktop?
Your dist-upgrade looks quite well. No applications are removed, only some libs get replaced by new packages.
We need to check the list of newly installed packages from the same output (just a few lines more text).

Removing "printer-driver-brlaser" might be a concern for printing.

On the cinnamon-desktop (not KDE!)  my d-u from five days ago looked like this
http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5719.msg46837#msg46837

greetings
musca

P.S.: you really should pick a more useful nickname.

[NochEinNeuer]

Ich verwende xfce.
Im einzelnen schauts so aus:

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Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  libasprintf0c2 libbinio1ldbl libboost-date-time1.55.0 libcmis-0.5-5
  libcwidget3 libebml4 libept1.4.12 libglibmm-2.4-1c2a libgltf-0.0-0
  libmatroska6 liborcus-0.10-0 libprotobuf9 libproxy1 libqpdf13 librlog5
  libsidplay1 libsigc++-2.0-0c2a libtag1-vanilla libtag1c2a libxapian22
  printer-driver-brlaser
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  g++-5 libapt-inst1.7 libapt-pkg4.16 libasprintf0v5 libbinio1v5
  libboost-date-time1.58.0 libboost-iostreams1.58.0
  libboost-serialization1.58.0 libboost-system1.58.0 libboost-thread1.58.0
  libcmis-0.5-5v5 libcwidget3v5 libebml4v5 libept1.4.16 libglibmm-2.4-1v5
  libgltf-0.0-0v5 libicu55 libmatroska6v5 liborcus-0.10-0v5 libprotobuf9v5
  libproxy1v5 libqpdf13v5 librlog5v5 libsidplay1v5 libsigc++-2.0-0v5
  libstdc++-5-dev libtag1v5 libtag1v5-vanilla libxapian22v5
  linux-headers-4.1.5-towo.1-siduction-amd64
  linux-image-4.1.5-towo.1-siduction-amd64
Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden:
  conky-all
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade):
  apt apt-utils aptitude aptitude-common audacious-plugins binutils
  build-essential cdrdao cpp cpp-5 cups-browsed cups-filters
  cups-filters-core-drivers db5.3-util debhelper dmeventd dmsetup dpkg
  dpkg-dev dvd+rw-tools encfs evolution-data-server-common exim4-base
  exim4-config exim4-daemon-light fonts-opensymbol g++ gcc gcc-5 gcc-5-base
  gddrescue gdisk gettext gettext-base ghostscript ghostscript-x
  gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0 glib-networking glib-networking-services gparted
  growisofs gstreamer0.10-gconf gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio
  hexchat icedove iceowl-extension iceweasel iceweasel-l10n-de iso-codes
  lib32gcc1 lib32stdc++6 libapt-pkg-perl libasan2 libatkmm-1.6-1 libatomic1
  libcairomm-1.0-1 libcc1-0 libcilkrts5 libconfig9 libcrystalhd3
  libcupsfilters1 libdb5.3 libdevmapper-event1.02.1 libdevmapper1.02.1
  libdpkg-perl libelf1 libexempi3 libflac8 libfontembed1 libgcc-5-dev libgcc1
  libgconfmm-2.6-1c2 libgeoip1 libgfortran3 libglademm-2.4-1c2a
  libgnutls-deb0-28 libgnutls-openssl27 libgomp1 libgs9 libgs9-common
  libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a libgtkmm-3.0-1 libhogweed4 libhunspell-1.3-0 libidn11
  libinput10 libitm1 libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 libjbig2dec0 libloudmouth1-0
  liblsan0 liblvm2app2.2 liblvm2cmd2.02 libmpx0 libnettle6 libnss-myhostname
  libpackagekit-glib2-18 libpam-systemd libpangomm-1.4-1 libpci3 libpciaccess0
  libpcre16-3 libpcre3 libpcsclite1 libphonenumber6 libproxy-tools libpsl0
  libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libpulsedsp libqt4-dbus libqt4-network
  libqt4-opengl libqt4-script libqt4-svg libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns
  libqt5core5a libqt5dbus5 libqt5gui5 libqt5network5 libqt5opengl5
  libqt5printsupport5 libqt5qml5 libqt5quick5 libqt5script5 libqt5sql5
  libqt5svg5 libqt5webkit5 libqt5widgets5 libqt5x11extras5 libqt5xml5
  libqtcore4 libqtdbus4 libqtgui4 libqtwebkit4 libquadmath0 libreoffice
  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
  libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common
  libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress
  libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-l10n-de libreoffice-math
  libreoffice-pdfimport libreoffice-report-builder-bin
  libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-writer librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common
  libseccomp2 libsecret-1-0 libsecret-common libsensors4 libsqlite3-0
  libstdc++6 libsystemd0 libtagc0 libtracker-sparql-1.0-0 libtsan0 libubsan0
  libudev1 libusb-0.1-4 libvlc5 libvlccore8 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 libwmf0.2-7
  libx264-146 libxaw7 linux-headers-siduction-amd64
  linux-image-siduction-amd64 linux-libc-dev lm-sensors lvm2 mime-support
  paman paprefs pavucontrol pavumeter pciutils pinentry-gnome3 pinentry-gtk2
  pulseaudio pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-gconf
  pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-utils python-apt
  python-apt-common python-numpy python-pkg-resources python-reportbug
  python3-pkg-resources python3-uno qdbus qtcore4-l10n reportbug signing-party
  squashfs-tools synaptic systemd systemd-sysv thunar-media-tags-plugin tzdata
  udev uno-libs3 ure usbutils vlc vlc-nox xfsprogs xserver-common
  xserver-xorg-core
223 aktualisiert, 31 neu installiert, 21 zu entfernen und 1 nicht aktualisiert.


Ausserdem habe ich seit kurzem dies hier:

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Es wurden 606 kB in 44 s geholt (13,7 kB/s).                                   
W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-amd64/PackagesIndex  Hash-Summe stimmt nicht überein

W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/i18n/Translation-enIndex  Hash-Summe stimmt nicht überein

E: Einige Indexdateien konnten nicht heruntergeladen werden. Sie wurden ignoriert oder alte an ihrer Stelle benutzt.
jf@siductionbox:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade


[seasons]

Removing "printer-driver-brlaser" might be a concern for printing.

From what I gather, one can rebuild the package using gcc5.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=793223
https://wiki.debian.org/GCC5#libstdc.2B-.2B-_c.2B-.2B-11_incompatibilities_.284.9_and_5.29

[michaa7]

After observing again the "progress"at this page I think we'll have quite a very calm year.

[Maik]

....das wird die nächsten Wochen so weiter gehen. Also Füße stillhalten ;-)

Und das bei Sid,  Wochenlang nur Halbe Sachen ^^
Den Nachteil von Bequemlichkeit und Ignoranz sieht man jetzt