[closed] Large GCC-5 TRANSITION, Heavy DIST-UPGRADE pending

[melmarker]

I would like to see the current situation as the ultimate chance to dive deep in the abyss of apt

[KrunchTime]

I successfully performed a dist-upgrade on my laptop a little over an hour ago.  Some packages were removed, but all but one were replaced with new ones.  Note:  I do not run KDE.  I run openbox.

I then proceeded to finish installing my favorite apps.  I was able to install everything but guayadeque.  The one package removed, that wasn't replaced, is a dependency for guayadeque.  Overall, I'm a happy camper.  Woo hoo!

[zephyr]

Haven't seen this posted yet on Siduction, a link for sid dist-upgrade. A lot of useful info.


https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/libstdc++6.html

[Jörg]

@zephyr
Accidentally you must have overlooked the post of "cas" in this very thread:

« Reply #53 on: 2015/08/11, 09:46:23 »

Greetings,
Jörg

[zephyr]

@Jorg: Yes I certainly did "this page" by cas reply #53. I missed it a few times. So little info out there and glad someone had already posted. Looks like it is going to be a while for us all. - Thanks-zephyr

[CCarpenter]

Its getting better and better - when i should give it a try?

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  Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
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  libebml4 libeiskaltdcpp2.2 libflac++6 libglibmm-2.4-1c2a libgltf-0.0-0 libjsoncpp0 libkfilemetadata4 liblucene++0 libmatroska6 libmovit2 libopenconnect3 liborcus-0.10-0
  libpcrecpp0 libprotobuf-lite9 libproxy1 libqpdf13 libsigc++-2.0-0c2a libsigc++-2.0-0c2a:i386 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libstrigihtmlgui0 libtag1-dev libtag1-vanilla
  libtag1c2a libtagc0 libvamp-hostsdk3 libvamp-sdk2 mixxx moc nepomuk-core-runtime poedit sqlitebrowser strigi-client xbmc xbmc-bin xbmc-data
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
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  libboost-filesystem1.58.0 libboost-iostreams1.58.0 libboost-random1.58.0 libboost-regex1.58.0 libboost-system1.58.0 libboost-thread1.58.0 libcairo2-dev libcmis-0.5-5v5
  libcpprest2.6 libdrm-amdgpu1 libebml4v5 libexiv2-14 libflac++6v5 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev libglib2.0-dev libglibmm-2.4-1v5 libgltf-0.0-0v5 libgraphicsmagick++11 libgroupsock7
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Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden:
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879 aktualisiert, 64 neu installiert, 60 zu entfernen und 3 nicht aktualisiert.
Es müssen noch 1.080 MB von 1.084 MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 291 MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
 
 

[melmarker]

if no bad things happend, it may be safe to do a full upgrade in 2 or 3 month

[CCarpenter]

Thanks Alfgaida

[kokurya]

We are using SID. Who wants safe

[melmarker]

Those who are working with their systems

[ghstryder]

I view this as (and I include myself in this group) "if you have to ask you need to wait".

[melmarker]

a few losses will be in every transition - but one may change the losses into wins - for me that means that i dropped multi-arch, use the new beta beyond compare (amd64) instead of i386, lost teamviewer which can run in a Windows VM and be done with it - ymmv. The problem with the transition is, that not only some programs and libraries will be recompiled - some projects and maintainers use the transition to get current code into debian, which make sense. But new programs and libraries can introduce a lot of new bugs ...

[cas]

@zephyr
Accidentally you must have overlooked the post of "cas" in this very thread:

« Reply #53 on: 2015/08/11, 09:46:23 »

credit is due to "dibl" reply #14
http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5719.msg46713#msg46713
 

[vilde]

Today’s d-u brought in a working audacious

[melmarker]

@vilde: right, I was too busy to upload it earlier - but for now it is only amd64, i must fix the some symbols for gcc5 today evening