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Title: Important services failed to start
Post by: clubex on 2017/07/01, 00:48:54
This one has me stumped.
After yesterday's DDU the libboost and d-bus produced an "which is also in" error. A reboot
produced failures to start the following services:
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login,realtime scheduling policy,Avahi,Moden manager, Accounts,rtkit and network manager.
and just huing. I can't even get to a terminal or read the logs or connect to the internet.

Any ideas anyone how I can recover my system?
Title: Re: Important services failed to start
Post by: melmarker on 2017/07/01, 00:51:30
just wait or use snapshots.debian.org
Title: Re: Important services failed to start
Post by: clubex on 2017/07/01, 12:12:40
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear.

The system just hangs. No keyboard or mouse input. Only a physical reset of the machine is possible. I am unable to do anything to my system apart from booting with a live CD and examining the contents of the hard drive. ie I'm locked out of my system. So waiting will be useless because I can't get into the system in order to run a fresh DU.

Secondly luckily I have a disk image which unfortunately is approximately 1 week old  I can extract the important data from the old borked system and transfer that to a newly restored system. But I shouldn't have to do that. After all this is a modern bleeding edge system. I should be able to get the system up and running without resorting to such methods.

I suppose, given that D-bus and boost are allied with systemd, the real question here is why has their upgrade borked my system so badly that it's virtually impossible for me to repair?
Title: Re: Important services failed to start
Post by: melmarker on 2017/07/01, 12:23:37
@clubex - waiting will help - and using snapshots too, i would suggest the first. One might need a live boot medium (cd, dvd, stick), boot, chroot into the environment and repair. Did i mention that the freeze is over?
Title: Re: Important services failed to start
Post by: der_bud on 2017/07/01, 13:50:12
You can try from grub to boot with added 'systemd.unit=emergency.target' or 'systemd.unit=rescue.target' if by any change you get into the system. If so, you probably need to remount root filesystem writable with
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mount -o remount,rw / before you try to manually bring up network, reconfigure dpkg and update with apt.  If emergency or rescue do not work, you need to chroot as melmarker mentioned.
Title: Re: Important services failed to start
Post by: clubex on 2017/07/01, 23:54:12
Thanks guys.
I might try der_bud's idea tomorrow if I have time.

At the moment (and for a little while) I need a stable system. So I'm going to swap out the siduction drive and plug in one with Debian 9 on it . Siduction can wait for the time being.
Title: Re: Important services failed to start
Post by: clubex on 2017/07/05, 11:31:01
Everything back in order since last night.

I noticed an updated systemd was available so I swapped in the siduction drive. chrooted in, did an autoclean and autoremove (Which I hadn't done for a very, very long time and probably was the initial cause of the "which is also in" error and did a DU without any problems. Only took about 15mins.

So "wait" was good advice if only to give me time to think.
Thank you.