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Offline michaa7

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No X with kernel 3.7 and nvidia prop.
« on: 2012/12/17, 16:04:59 »
What else do I need to say? No problem with older kernels, but with new installed 3.7 kernel I only reach a konsole login.
It seems nvidia prop. is not ready for 3.7 or am I missing something?
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RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and nvidia prop.
« Reply #1 on: 2012/12/17, 16:23:27 »
For GeForce 8xxx and higher you can install the driver from debian-experimental or siduction-experimental.
For the lower cards i have put a fixed driver 304.64 in our fixes repo.
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Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and nvidia prop.
« Reply #2 on: 2012/12/17, 16:37:01 »
Quote from: "towo"
For GeForce 8xxx and higher you can install the driver from debian-experimental or siduction-experimental.
For the lower cards i have put a fixed driver 304.64 in our fixes repo.


Thanks towo.

In my siduction.list the fixes non-free repo was missing. After adding it the driver comes in via apt-get. I'll see what happens when I reboot with the 3.7 kernel and install the driver.

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Works, thanks again.

Is there any info available whether or not nvidia will support GeForce 6xxx Chips with never kernels? It's an onboard chip which does not work reliable with nouveau driver. Did you upstream/document your fix?
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RE: Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and nvidia prop.
« Reply #3 on: 2012/12/18, 00:02:17 »
What is the apt-get command to install the nvidia driver?

And what do we need to ad to apt.sources.d to get siduction-experimental?

Will it work from there on, or do we need to manually reinstall the nvidia driver after each kernel update?

Thanks in advance. :)


(Due to this I'm using the kernel 3.6 grub entry to boot into X - luckily I can do that.)

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GT 430 means that I need to use the new experimental driver, right?

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Re: RE: Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and nvidia prop.
« Reply #4 on: 2012/12/18, 00:18:30 »
Quote from: "jacmoe"
What is the apt-get command to install the nvidia driver?


Not so much apt-get -- you need to follow the manual on this.

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And what do we need to ad to apt.sources.d to get siduction-experimental?


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deb http://packages.siduction.org/experimental unstable main contrib non-free

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Will it work from there on, or do we need to manually reinstall the nvidia driver after each kernel update?


New kernel modules will be built automatically when each new kernel is installed.

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GT 430 means that I need to use the new experimental driver, right?


Yes, ver. 313.09.
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and nvidia prop.
« Reply #5 on: 2012/12/18, 00:25:10 »
Thanks ;)

I already have all that - do I need to redo it?

I think I'll just add that line to apt sources and do a apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.

If that doesn't fix it, I'll redo the steps in the manual (that I followed the first time around)

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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and nvidia prop.
« Reply #6 on: 2012/12/18, 00:36:50 »
The 313.09 driver is available in both the siduction experimental and debian experimental repos.  Looks like mine, which is working great, came from siduction.

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root@imerabox:/home/don# apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
nvidia-glx:
  Installed: 313.09-0.siduction.1
  Candidate: 313.09-0.siduction.1
  Version table:
 *** 313.09-0.siduction.1 0
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/experimental/ unstable/non-free amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     310.19-0+exp1 0
          1 http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ experimental/non-free amd64 Packages
     304.64-2 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/non-free amd64 Packages
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/non-free amd64 Packages


The debian experimental repo, FYI, is
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deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and nvidia prop.
« Reply #7 on: 2012/12/18, 07:29:39 »
Worked like a charm. :)

I added the line to siduction.list.
I had to comment out Debian unstable non-free, and then I just had to reinstall nvidia-glx, and do two dist-upgrades.

All is well.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and nvidia prop
« Reply #8 on: 2012/12/18, 10:54:16 »
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I had to comment out Debian unstable non-free...


Why?

If you ever need unfree firmware or flashplugin-nonfree or the like you need this repo. But no problem if you don't need those.

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Reading it again I came to the conclusion I might have missunderstood what you meant by saying "comment out". To me the meaning usually appears to be very ambiguous.
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and nvidia
« Reply #9 on: 2012/12/18, 15:57:43 »
I can't see anything ambiguous about it :)

The nVidia driver was in both the siduction experimental non-free and Debian unstable non-free, so to proceed I needed to put a '#' in front of the Debian unstable non-free.

Now that you mention it, I probably should reconsider.
Unless I can get the firmware and flash plugins from siduction experimental non-free?

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and nvi
« Reply #10 on: 2012/12/18, 16:24:22 »
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I can't see anything ambiguous about it :)

OT, a side note:
I now learned my first reading was the correct one. The ambiguity may come from a widespread misuse which may be the result of an erroneous translation, but in German forums (ok , fora ;-) ) you may find the word "auskommentieren" (= en: "comment out") in both cases, to convert code to a comment *and* to revert this (thus mixing up "comment out" and "uncomment", the later a word, although often used, you won't find in any dictionary! (would be "entkommentieren" in german)).
So far I had the impression this ambiguity was not limited to the german language, but maybe the use in english speaking countries is  clear without any ambiguity.

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Now that you mention it, I probably should reconsider.

That was the purpose of my answer to your posting.
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Unless I can get the firmware and flash plugins from siduction experimental non-free?

I am quite sure this will never happen due to legal reasons.
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jacmoe

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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and
« Reply #11 on: 2012/12/18, 16:40:24 »
I've learned to use 'comment out' because it's in the dictionary. :P

I'll remove the comment marker and enable it, but then I'll probably lose the new nVidia driver?

If I do, I'll get back to you.

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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and
« Reply #12 on: 2012/12/18, 18:59:42 »
No, jacmoe you can have both debian experimental and siduction experimental enabled -- they don't conflict.  The debian experimental has a lower priority in apt, and dist-upgrade will not automatically pull in any packages from debian experimental.  You have to deliberately use "install -t experimental foo-package" to get the version of foo-package that is in debian experimental.
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: No X with kernel 3.7 and
« Reply #13 on: 2012/12/19, 08:55:59 »
Aha - my temporary hack worked, though.

I didn't know about the '-t experimental' argument.

I commented out Debian unstable non-free to get to the Siduction experimental non-free. And then uncommented it afterwards.

If I need to do this in the future, I'll remember that argument. :)