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Siduction Forum => Upgrade Warnings => Topic started by: devil on 2020/12/11, 13:21:43
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As the headline says, Qt is being updated. That leads to the removal of hundreds of plasma packages. So please be careful until this is resolved. In other news, Plasma 5.20.4 has been moved to Experimental by Norbert Preining. So we can expect it to move to Unstable soon, even if Norberts repos are not activated.
Wie die Überschrift aussagt, wird Qt aktualisiert. Das führt zur Entfernung von Hunderten von Plasma-Paketen. Seid bitte vorsichtig, bis das Problem behoben ist. Zudem wurde Plasma 5.20.4 von Norbert Preining nach Experimental hochgeladen. Wir können also erwarten, dass es bald nach Unstable wandert, auch wenn Norberts Repos nicht aktiviert sind.
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Topic typo, should be Qt 5.15.2 ;)
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right, fixed.
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151 to be removed here -- thanks for the warning.
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I did 2 d-u and both systems are fine
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Well, i think i will wait a bit longer
The following packages will be REMOVED:
kinfocenter kwin-addons kwin-common kwin-wayland kwin-wayland-backend-drm kwin-wayland-backend-fbdev kwin-wayland-backend-virtual
kwin-wayland-backend-x11 kwin-x11 latte-dock plasma-desktop plasma-integration plasma-widgets-addons plasma-workspace plasma-workspace-wayland
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Here in USA it is NOT yet safe to upgrade for persons using plasma desktop and don't use the Preining repo.
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I just DU'd an LXqt laptop and a KDE desktop computer without loosing anything. Both completed without incident.
Now I'm trying to decide whether I should heed Martin Steigerwald's call and pull in Plasma 5.20.4 from experimental and try it out on Debian.
Martin's email:
You can help: Test Plasma 5.20.4 and test applications 20.12Martin Steigerwald martin@lichtvoll.de via lists.debian.org 1:37 PM (2 hours ago)
to debian-kde Hi!
If you are feeling adventurous and are using Sid, then you can help by
testing Plasma 5.20.4 from experimental. I installed it using
apt install -t experimental plasma-base
"plasma-base" is a new package to keep the versions of all Plasma
packages in lock step.
But beware currently Qt 5.15.2 is entering into Sid. It may need a day
or two to complete. Be extra careful during that time.
Also you can help test new application 20.12 packages as they enter
unstable. Use them and report any issues you find with them.
Please do this only if you feel up to it and are willing to keep the
pieces in case something breaks. Of course you can always ask for help
here, but it would be good if you are willing to do your best to resolve
and diagnose issues on your own first and then if need be report with as
much detail as possible.
If unsure whether it is really a Debian bug or you like to learn about
which package to report the bug for, feel free to ask here first.
So far I am very happy with Plasma 5.20.4 and those KDE application
packages I upgraded. I thank Norbert, Aurélien, Sandro who is in the
process to upgrade KDEPIM packages to 20.08.3, Dmitry and everyone else
who is involved with upgrading the packages or helps testing them.
Thank you,
--
Martin
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Now I'm trying to decide whether I should heed Martin Steigerwald's call and pull in Plasma 5.20.4 from experimental and try it out on Debian.
Give it a try, maybe in a vbox or so.
I always have an eye on d-qt-kde and there seems to be no big glitches.
I use Norberts packing of kde/plasma and I have to wait till new kwin (build against qt 5.15.2, maybe more) is uploaded.
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Two systems updated safely here also.
Threads like this are invaluable.
My thanks to Devil for the initial warning, and to all who have contributed.
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i waited a bit longer, until now, in order to get the dependency of calibre to become fine again. ran dist upgrade and everything is OK.
thanks for the warning!
best
absolut
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Now I'm trying to decide whether I should heed Martin Steigerwald's call and pull in Plasma 5.20.4 from experimental and try it out on Debian.
Give it a try, maybe in a vbox or so.
I always have an eye on d-qt-kde and there seems to be no big glitches.
I use Norbert's packing of kde/plasma and I have to wait till new kwin (build against qt 5.15.2, maybe more) is uploaded.
So I installed that plasma from experimental, it works without a problem.
After I figured out what is needed so that no package get lost/removed all went fine and far as I can see there are no problems, at the moment™.
Here is what I have done (on other systems it could be similar but not the same).
apt update
apt install -t experimental kinfocenter kwin-addons kwin-common kwin-wayland kwin-wayland-backend-drm kwin-wayland-backend-fbdev kwin-wayland-backend-virtual plasma-framework plasma-workspace kwin-x11 libqt5core5a libprocessui9 libqt5webenginecore5 libqt5webenginewidgets5
apt full-upgrade
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@hendrikL's procedure and result confirmed.
Here occured a disturbing glitch, on the border between desktop background and plasma control bar.
$ inxi -G
Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] driver: nouveau v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: modesetting resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: NVA8 v: 3.3 Mesa 20.2.4
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Maybe a shadow, take a look to the settings (don't ask me where).
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I have the same glitch, just to say with latest plasma 20.04.
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@mte90, thanks for confirming.
In German:
Geteiltes Leid ist halbes Leid ;)
In English (translated by deepl)
A sorrow shared is a sorrow halved ;)
Greetings,
Tom
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I wrote a comment on https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/12/kde-plasma-and-cinnamon-updates-in-debian/ to see if someone has some clues about that issue.To me is a kde bug.
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@mte90,
I noticed your comment, and I agree with you, that this bug is probably upstream.
I should make a bugreport ;)
[UPDATE 1]
There it is:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430482 (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430482)
[UPDATE 2]
Will be fixed in KDE Frameworks Version: 5.78.0
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430390 (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430390)
[UPDATE 3]
Arrived in Norbert 's repo, and Debian experimental:
# apt changelog plasma-framework
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* Cherry-pick upstream fix for black shadows when compositor
is disabled (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430390)
-- Norbert Preining <norbert@preining.info> Fri, 18 Dec 2020 10:03:56 +0900
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Thanks for the updates :-D
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Hello colleagues, is it normal that the update to QT5 has not yet been resolved? I think that's what has been blocking so many packages for quite some time, but I'm still wrong.
The following packages have been kept back:
frameworkintegration fwupd gimp-gmic gmic kded5 kio kpackagetool5
kwin-decoration-oxygen libappstreamqt2 libgmic1 libkdecorations2-5v5
libkf5archive5 libkf5attica5 libkf5auth-data libkf5authcore5
libkf5codecs-data libkf5codecs5 libkf5completion-data libkf5completion5
libkf5config-data libkf5configcore5 libkf5configgui5
libkf5configwidgets-data libkf5configwidgets5 libkf5coreaddons-data
libkf5coreaddons5 libkf5crash5 libkf5dbusaddons-data libkf5dbusaddons5
libkf5doctools5 libkf5guiaddons5 libkf5i18n-data libkf5i18n5
libkf5iconthemes-data libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5itemviews-data
libkf5itemviews5 libkf5jobwidgets-data libkf5jobwidgets5 libkf5kiocore5
libkf5kiogui5 libkf5kiontlm5 libkf5kiowidgets5 libkf5kirigami2-5
libkf5newstuffcore5 libkf5notifications-data libkf5notifications5
libkf5package-data libkf5package5 libkf5service-bin libkf5service-data
libkf5service5 libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5sonnet5-data
libkf5sonnetcore5 libkf5sonnetui5 libkf5textwidgets-data libkf5textwidgets5
libkf5wallet-bin libkf5wallet-data libkf5wallet5 libkf5widgetsaddons-data
libkf5widgetsaddons5 libkf5windowsystem-data libkf5windowsystem5
libkwalletbackend5-5 liboxygenstyle5-5 liboxygenstyleconfig5-5
libqt5concurrent5 libqt5core5a libqt5dbus5 libqt5designer5 libqt5gui5
libqt5help5 libqt5multimedia5 libqt5network5 libqt5positioning5
libqt5printsupport5 libqt5qml5 libqt5qmlmodels5 libqt5qmlworkerscript5
libqt5quick5 libqt5quickcontrols2-5 libqt5quicktemplates2-5
libqt5quickwidgets5 libqt5script5 libqt5sensors5 libqt5sql5
libqt5sql5-sqlite libqt5svg5 libqt5test5 libqt5texttospeech5
libqt5waylandclient5 libqt5webchannel5 libqt5webengine-data libqt5webengine5
libqt5webenginecore5 libqt5webenginewidgets5 libqt5webkit5 libqt5widgets5
libqt5x11extras5 libqt5xml5 mkvtoolnix mkvtoolnix-gui python3-pyqt5
python3-pyqt5.qtsvg python3-pyqt5.qtwebchannel python3-pyqt5.qtwebengine
qml-module-org-kde-kirigami2 qml-module-org-kde-newstuff
qml-module-qtgraphicaleffects qml-module-qtqml-models2
qml-module-qtquick-controls2 qml-module-qtquick-layouts
qml-module-qtquick-templates2 qml-module-qtquick-window2 qml-module-qtquick2
qt5-gtk-platformtheme qt5-image-formats-plugins qt5-qmake qt5-qmake-bin
qtbase5-dev qtbase5-dev-tools qtspeech5-speechd-plugin sonnet-plugins
telegram-desktop texmaker
Aptitude returns this output, which is somewhat more informative:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
qt5-default : Depends: qtbase5-dev (= 5.14.2+dfsg-6) but it is not going to be installed or
qtbase5-gles-dev (>= 5.14.2+dfsg) but it is not going to be installed
texmaker : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-14-2 which is a virtual package, provided by:
- libqt5core5a (5.14.2+dfsg-6), but 5.15.2+dfsg-2 is to be installed
nextcloud-desktop : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-14-2 which is a virtual package, provided by:
- libqt5core5a (5.14.2+dfsg-6), but 5.15.2+dfsg-2 is to be installed
fwupd : Depends: libtss2-esys-3.0.2-0 (>= 2.3.1) but it is not going to be installed
Thanks for your help
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Just as a query, do you need qt5-default? It doesn't even appear in an apt info query for me.
https://packages.debian.org/buster/qt5-default
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I don't know why it was there, he thought it was a dependency. I have removed it and everything has been fixed.
Thank you very much for the help! ;)