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Title: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: bad_aptitude on 2012/07/10, 01:16:51
I tried out the live CD of Razor-qt and it was incredibly fast compared to my current aptosid  installation. I sure hope siduction continues to offer this DE option. :D
I would like to see a video display applet like KDE Display Manager. If anyone has a suggestion of an alternative please post it.
Title: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: devil on 2012/07/10, 01:22:53
We plan to add Razor-qt to our release cycle with the next release.

greetz
devil
Title: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: stavros on 2012/09/08, 12:18:11
hello siduction!
I am also testing Razor-Qt aptosid in Vbox 4.1.12.
First impressions

-fast
- html installer ? bad idea
- no internet (network manager ?)
Title: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: devil on 2012/09/08, 12:40:04
Quote

- html installer ? bad idea

why?
no internet (network manager ?)
no, ceni

greetz
devil
Title: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: stavros on 2012/09/08, 21:54:04
Quote from: "devil"
Quote

- html installer ? bad idea

why?
no internet (network manager ?)
no, ceni

greetz
devil


I don't know the target group you have in mind for siduction/ razor qt.
Title: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: devil on 2012/09/08, 22:26:31
We are atm testing networkmanager on the XFCE and LXDE flavours, not on QT/KDE yet. siduction is for everyone that wants to be in power of his machine and data and will go the extra mile to get there.

greetz
devil
Title: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: stavros on 2012/09/08, 22:34:27
Quote from: "devil"
We are atm testing networkmanager on the XFCE and LXDE flavours, not on QT/KDE yet. siduction is for everyone that wants to be in power of his machine and data and will go the extra mile to get there.

greetz
devil


do you see razor qt as a QT only flavor of siduction?
I think this is a shame. Mix QT and GTk apps but not KDE and gnome and you have a usable system.
Title: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: devil on 2012/09/08, 23:22:36
Razor-Qt is going to be a QT-only flavour. What users do after install is their own thing.

greetz
devil
Title: RE: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: stavros on 2012/09/08, 23:36:50
no comment.
Title: Re: RE: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: holgerw on 2012/09/09, 07:38:28
Quote from: "stavros"
no comment.


Hello @stavros,

this is an open forum for open minds, so, if you have arguments for your position, feel free to start a discussion, perhaps siduction team can learn about a further view of a linux user.

Kind regards,
  Holger
Title: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: dsplayname on 2012/09/09, 09:26:39
I thought the QT-only app selection was pretty good. I am stubborn though, about having to have Geany, SpaceFM, Gimp, and Chromium.
  I am pretty excited about Razor-QT, and hope it picks up. I made a couple themes and would like some feedback on where to improve.
http://fav.me/d5dsr9z
http://fav.me/d5e4uad
  Anyone try out the V0.4.99 beta yet, or know whats new?
Title: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: STiAT on 2012/10/28, 11:55:08
Quote from: "devil"
Razor-Qt is going to be a QT-only flavour. What users do after install is their own thing.

greetz
devil


Well, what ever is included in the default installation... I personally like the decision. There are this and that kind of people, and I for my part welcome this decision. The decision what I will install lateron is mine anyway.

Networkmanager is a great solution though. But as I know there is no "Qt Only" frontend for NM yet.

What I'm more interested in, the target date for the next version was 01st of November. Are you going to hit the target date? If not, will there be a clean upgrade path from the current to the next release?

Kind regards - and thanks for picking up Razor-Qt into your releases! KDE sometimes drives me nuts nowdays, even though it has very nice features I'm still missing in Razor. But it more and more starts to get mature.
Title: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: devil on 2012/10/28, 12:19:10
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What I'm more interested in, the target date for the next version was 01st of November. Are you going to hit the target date?

If we miss it, it won't be by far.
And yes, upgrades to 0.5 should work flawlessly. The only pitfall I can think of is the new format of config files, but as there is a conversion tool in 0.5 for that reason, things should be smooth.

greetz
devil
Title: RE: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: STiAT on 2012/10/29, 11:15:43
Thanks for the answer. Well, so far so good - one thing I did forget to ask, will it be systemd or init based?
I start enjoying systemd :D.
Title: RE: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: devil on 2012/10/29, 12:33:54
It will be a while before we switch to systemd, we have not even started. We still have to much work, improving what we initialy forked from aptosid.

greetz
devil
Title: RE: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: ralul on 2012/10/29, 16:09:41
I have used
systemd-44 on openSUSE
systemd-195 with Gentoo

Also both works, I would not recommend systemd-44: Too uncomfortable, too mixed with old init.d, it is harder to handle when a problem shows up ...

Another question:
I have read about a neu wayland-qt implementation coming up: That would be faszinating to put in use! Has anybody some deeper info about?
Title: RE: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: STiAT on 2012/10/30, 14:01:50
Well, with Qt5 there will be a new lighthouse plugin of course.

For distributions switching to wayland: There would be the need of a WM (KWin, OpenBox etc.).

But KDE is focussing on the platform2/KDE5 (for now), which will enable KWin to get "Lighter", or rid of many KDE dependencies. Martin said he'll focus on wayland lateron again.

So until one of the necessary WMs is ported, there is no chance for a distribution featuring Wayland as their "main" display server. If that happened, it should be possible to port Razor-Qt, which will once again need some time too :).
Title: RE: Re: RE: Razor-qt: I hope it sticks
Post by: ralul on 2012/10/30, 22:50:54
STiAT, thank you for explanation!