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Title: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: Xaver on 2021/01/25, 11:38:41

After kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10 ALSA-sound does not work anymore.

Booted with kernel 5.9.15 the sound is still ok.

Asus notebook
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
               Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.9.15-towo.1-siduction-amd64
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: Pip on 2021/01/25, 12:05:41
I don't have the exact same -
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 100 Series/C230 Series Family HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel

but my audio does come through, so there's nothing generic there.
What do you get when you run speaker-test?
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: jure on 2021/01/25, 12:14:51
no problems here

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Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.10-towo.1-siduction-amd64
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: Xaver on 2021/01/25, 12:56:43
Results of speaker-test:
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$ speaker-test
speaker-test 1.2.4
 
Wiedergabe-Gerät ist default
Stream-Parameter sind 48000 Hz, S16_LE, 1 Kanäle
Verwende 16 Oktaven rosa Rauschen
Rate ist 48000 Hz (angefordert: 48000 Hz)
Puffergröße von 2048 bis 16384
Periodengröße von 1024 bis 1024
Verwende maximale Puffergröße 16384
Perioden = 4
gesetzt: period_size = 1024
gesetzt: buffer_size = 16384
 0 - Front Left
Zeit pro Periode = 2,663804
 0 - Front Left
Zeit pro Periode = 2,986654
 0 - Front Left
Zeit pro Periode = 2,986893
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: Pip on 2021/01/25, 13:04:26
It's not showing an error, then. Good.
Have you checked on alsamixer and the Advanced Audio test in System Settings? I can't imagine why they might not be right since the sound does work with a different kernel, but it's worth a look.
Oh, was there a problem with your upgrade? Your output shows the sound server for 5.9.15, is there nothing for 5.10.10? What's the inxi -A output when booting with 5.10.10?
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: seasons on 2021/01/25, 16:25:26
inxi won't tell you much. Use the alsa-info script. Get one info from the 5.9 kernel and one from 5.10
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: whistler_mb on 2021/01/25, 18:45:24
@Xaver

Have you tested whether the sound is output via the headphone jack?

Currently I also have no sound over the laptop speakers, but it works via the headphone jack, USB sound card and Bluetooth.

My last d-u is from today. But I did not test if the sound through the speakers still worked before the d-u.
However, the sound over the speakers still worked at the beginning of last week.

It came today the kernel 5.10.10 but I do not think it is because of the kernel. Even with the previous kernel 5.10.9, the sound no longer works, which worked before.
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: hschn on 2021/01/25, 19:28:37
I had the same problem some time ago.

My solution was:
Deletion of all files and folders related to Pulseaudio in my home directory and reboot.

good luck

Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: whistler_mb on 2021/01/26, 11:50:06
This morning my speakers are working. But I did nothing more for it yesterday on the laptop.

In the evening I sent my laptop to standby as usual and did not shut it down.

So I restarted my laptop and the speakers did not work. After a short standby and wake up the speakers work again.

But why  ???
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: Xaver on 2021/01/26, 12:10:48
I have now installed kernel 5.10.9 – sound does not work either.
.
inxi output looks ok:

Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.9-towo.2-siduction-amd64
.
For some reason kernels 5.10.xy and my hardware do not cooperate.
.
There is no 'Advanced Audio Test' on my system. Which package does contain it?
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: Pip on 2021/01/26, 12:17:56
System Settings -> Audio -> Advanced -> Speaker Placement and Testing.
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: Xaver on 2021/01/26, 14:49:47
@ pip
menu 'System Settings -> Audio -> Advanced -> Speaker Placement and Testing' is specific to your desktop
On my Openbox system it does not exist.

my guess: your menu leads to AudMeS

On my system AudMeS works fine with kernel 4.9.15
It does not work with kernels 5.10.9 and 5.10.10

So I shall stay with kernel 5.9.15 and hope, that kernel 5.11 will be ok again.

Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: Xaver on 2022/05/31, 18:05:12
16 months later I have finally discovered the reason by checking the alsa installation of Refracta 11.

Since kernel 5.10 the packages 'alsa-topology-conf' and 'alsa-ucm-conf' are needed for sound output !!!
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: eriefisher on 2022/05/31, 18:49:51
Funny this should come up today as I've had a no sound issue after a recent update. Weird thing is I discovered it in Freetuxtv. Video was fine but no sound. Sound worked from the browser and Parole though. I then discovered no sound with VLC as well. In VLC I went to Tools-Preferences-Audio and specifically selected alsa as the output module. Restarted VLC and freetuxtv and sound magically works now. For some reason VLC isn't finding alsa automatically.
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: NochEinNeuer on 2022/06/01, 21:49:27
Bei mir das selbe. Vor einiger Zeit gab es ein update zu vlc. Seitdem geht vlc nur noch ohne Sound. Mplayer usw. gehen problemlos, nur vlc hat keinen Ton :(
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: seasons on 2022/06/01, 22:48:25
Since kernel 5.10 the packages 'alsa-topology-conf' and 'alsa-ucm-conf' are needed for sound output !!!

I'm curious what ISO or install method you used. Those packages should have been pulled in as dependencies unless you did a minimal install and reconfigured apt not to pull in 'Recommends' packages.
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: eriefisher on 2022/06/02, 14:33:00
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Bei mir das selbe. Vor einiger Zeit gab es ein update zu vlc. Seitdem geht vlc nur noch ohne Sound. Mplayer usw. gehen problemlos, nur vlc hat keinen Ton
Try following the steps I posted. It worked for me.
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: Xaver on 2022/06/02, 23:42:35
@ seasons

Your guess is right. My system is no standard siduction.
Four years ago I have built my system with antix-17-sid-net.iso as the base.
I have added repos and apt settings from Siduction. Openbox is my window manager.

My system has no pulseaudio and uses sysvinit instead of systemd.
Nice side effect: With iso-snapshot-antix I can create a custom live iso with just a few mouseclicks. So I could build and test the system in VirtualBox and create my install media in VirtualBox. There are no additional apt settings.

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Those packages should have been pulled in as dependencies unless you did a minimal install and reconfigured apt not to pull in 'Recommends' packages.

There are dependencies from libasound2-data, but the packages were not pulled in.
On the other hand sound was fine with 5.9 kernel and all linux-image have no dependencies.
So a package would not be pulled in because of a new kernel.

Yes, my system is more or less minimal, but I have not reconfigured apt not to pull in 'Recommends' packages. It makes sense to do so, but in 2018 I did not know much about apt. I am learning this by doing.
Title: Re: no sound after kernel upgrade 5.9.15 –> 5.10.10
Post by: NochEinNeuer on 2022/06/05, 00:08:34
Seit dem heutigen dist-upgrade funzt es wieder mit vlc...