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Title: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: vilde on 2018/08/27, 19:52:28
Since some time libsane-common and sane-utils are hold back by apt on d-u. Anyone else experienced that? Shall I do something about it or just wait?
XFC, pateince.
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: ReinerS on 2018/08/27, 20:03:58
I am also waiting for that.

regards
Reiner
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: Kan on 2018/08/27, 20:43:01
libsane-common has been held back for quite some time now.
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: ReinerS on 2018/08/27, 22:53:56
Yes, sane-backends are in transition quite a while and seem not to make much progress.
Regards
Reiner
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: devil on 2018/08/28, 08:17:00
Sometimes transitions can be held up by just one maintainer not taking action on his package(s)
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: DeepDayze on 2018/08/29, 02:54:50
Quote from: devil on 2018/08/28, 08:17:00
Sometimes transitions can be held up by just one maintainer not taking action on his package(s)


I don't have experimental repos enabled and still got those same 2 packages showing up in my d-u as well.
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: dibl on 2018/08/29, 12:47:18
Quote from: DeepDayze
I don't have experimental repos enabled and still got those same 2 packages showing up in my d-u as well.

Right, same here. Doesn't affect printing or scanning, so I don't care.
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: jure on 2018/08/29, 13:23:09
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/sane-backends
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: AvY on 2018/09/01, 13:58:05
Fresh from the repo:

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The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libsane
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libsane1
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libsane-common sane-utils
2 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.I wonder why libsane grew a 1.
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: dibl on 2018/09/01, 14:37:29
This happened yesterday:

https://tracker.debian.org/news/984005/accepted-sane-backends-1027-1-source-into-unstable/
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: vilde on 2018/09/01, 15:51:11
Am I understanding this right? libsane1 will replace libsane and it's ok to do this and go on with the d-u?
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: jure on 2018/09/01, 18:42:31
yes that`s right


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apt show libsane1
Package: libsane1
Version: 1.0.27-1
....
Conflicts: libsane (<< 1.0.27-1~)
Replaces: libsane (<< 1.0.27-1~)
Title: Solved: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: dibl on 2018/09/01, 20:47:58
Yes, fully upgraded KDE/plasma desktop and skanlite works perfectly on my old Epson Perfection 1640SU.

EDIT: it works fine on iso builds again
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: clubex on 2018/09/01, 23:58:43
But xsane and simple-scan still require libsane.
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: melmarker on 2018/09/02, 01:17:48
That was not the problem - libsane is fine, the backends was not - if i remember correctly
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: vilde on 2018/09/02, 10:26:41
Quote from: melmarker on 2018/09/02, 01:17:48
That was not the problem - libsane is fine, the backends was not - if i remember correctly
This is OT, and I will expose my little knowledge of the vocabulary and programming,  but what is backends? Is it the applications that use (in this case) libsane or what?
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: OppaErich on 2018/09/02, 11:34:57
Hi,
backend does the work, is where the magic happens. Frontend is for the user interaction.
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: dibl on 2018/09/02, 12:03:04
From

https://tracker.debian.org/news/984005/accepted-sane-backends-1027-1-source-into-unstable/

you can read this:

Quote
Description:
 libsane-common - API library for scanners -- documentation and support files
 libsane-dev - API development library for scanners [development files]
 libsane1   - API library for scanners
 sane-utils - API library for scanners -- utilities
Closes: 905838 905913
Changes:
 sane-backends (1.0.27-1) unstable; urgency=medium

What is an API?  Wiki knows:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface

Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: vilde on 2018/09/02, 19:51:43
Thank you OppaErich & dibl for your answers :)
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: drb on 2018/09/19, 12:22:14
A 'fix' for libsane-common seems to be trying to remove 13 other packages. Does anyone know anything about this 'fix'?
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apt-cache policy libsane-common
libsane-common:
  Installed: 1.0.27-1
  Candidate: 1.0.27-2~2
  Version table:
     1.0.27-2~2 500
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable/main amd64 Packages
 *** 1.0.27-1 500
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1.0.25-4.1 500
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: melmarker on 2018/09/19, 16:12:20
Normally i don't answer in threads that contain the word fix in hyphens - if one would take the time to read and understand the linked bug one would mention that apt might need a little bit help.

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apt dist-upgrade libsane+

Easy, isn't it? Reason: libsane is a bit messed up - that means half of the packages need libsane the other half need libsane1. Things are a bit worse as libsane1 provide libsane - this is exactly the reason for the need of libsane+

We will see how and when this is fixed in debian, until then i decided to roll the needed packages back to libsane as dependency. It might be that i missed one or two packages, if so, please drop a line here.
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: drb on 2018/09/19, 16:22:33
The packages that want to be removed are:
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The following packages will be REMOVED:
   colord (1.4.3-3.1)
   hplip (3.17.10+repack0-7.1)
   hplip-gui (3.17.10+repack0-7.1)
   iscan (2.30.1-1~usb0.1.ltdl7)
   iscan-plugin-gt-x750 (2.1.2-1)
   kdegraphics (4:17.08.3+5.102)
   kolourpaint (4:18.04.0-1)
   kolourpaint4 (4:18.04.0-1)
   libkf5sane5 (17.08.3-1)
   libsane1 (1.0.27-1)
   sane (1.0.14-13.1)
   sane-utils (1.0.27-2~2)
   xsane (0.999-5)
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: jure on 2018/09/19, 16:52:23
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apt dist-upgrade libsane+
....
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  gimagereader libsane1
Title: Re: libsane-common and sane-utils are are hold back on d-u
Post by: melmarker on 2018/09/19, 22:21:37
@jure, nice finding, had some problems to rebuild the package, missed dependency in d/control :P

Will upload a fixed version to fixes soon. Thanks.

Edit: Uploaded and bug filed: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=909219