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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #75 on: 2018/07/12, 12:10:15 »
I am still using the 1.19.6-1 package because with proprietary nvidia drivers kde is not loading plasmashell rightly.I am updating today do 1.20.0-3 and if fixed the issue.

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #76 on: 2018/07/13, 10:18:45 »
https://imgur.com/a/OlUAex2
This is what happen with plasmashell, is not rendered graphically but the button are present if I click in the black area.

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #77 on: 2018/07/13, 19:25:23 »
OK, I gave up.  >:(
I reinstalled the latest kde version without internet connection and put the xserver-xorg files on hold.
After that I connected internet and did a dist-upgrade. All is working as before now. ;D

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #78 on: 2018/07/15, 21:51:10 »
Please, can someone tell what this is about?

This problem has existed an unusual long time without being fixed. Some people have problem with kde and plasma, some as I  understand has problem with older nvidia graphic cards.

As all who have problem can fix i temporarily with an older xserver is it the same thing that need to be fixed, ie xserver or is more things like nouveau drivers?

If it not will be fixed for my computer with older nvidia card maybe I shall install something else on that because this is the family's main media center for music and tv in our house and I want no problem with that.

Had the same problem as you, with failing login in xfce.
It seems that xserver and xfwm4 compositing are not playing nice.

While on downgraded xserver 1.19, I disabled compositing:
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xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/use_compositing -s false
then updated xserver to 1.20 - and rebooted.

Suggest you then install compton, which may be a better compositor anyway to cure tearing on older video cards. It will at least offer you compositing until a xserver or xfwm4 are patched

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #79 on: 2018/07/15, 22:11:31 »
erm - i use xfwm4 with all the nice new things and have no problems with - so it might be that these assumtions are simply wrong 8)
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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #80 on: 2018/07/15, 23:05:44 »
erm - i use xfwm4 with all the nice new things and have no problems with - so it might be that these assumtions are simply wrong 8)

well, that may well be.
but it solved my problem on two different machines running xfce and the nouveau display driver...

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #81 on: 2018/07/15, 23:15:21 »
i have no experience (better - only really bad experiences) with nouveau. But i know one thing for sure: If there are bugs then solving these bugs is a solution. Downgrading is not. At least not in an unstable environment. Just my 2 ¢
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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #82 on: 2018/07/16, 13:02:30 »
What do you suggest for report this issues? a log?AS I can see there we have 2 different cases xfce and kde with nvidia proprietary or free drivers or rendering stuff.

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #83 on: 2018/08/07, 15:08:09 »
bump about that point.

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #84 on: 2018/08/08, 01:56:09 »
I suggest to do nothing - there was no real informations how to reproduce - so time will tell. If there is a real problem more people would get bitten by this, so it would be a good idea to read the xorg and the xfwm4 bug tracker in debian. Maybe the drivers tracker too.

However - if one can reproduce the bug and have workarounds (a different graphics driver is no workaround, just a different setup) it might be nice to provide these informations to debian - if they hasn't fixed the issue right now - which we can not test because of the so called solutions 8)
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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #85 on: 2018/08/08, 10:36:09 »
I looked on other ticket already opened without success. I have to check the logs to inspect later.Thanks for the hint.

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #86 on: 2018/08/13, 12:13:55 »
This is my xorg log https://pastebin.com/yNRU8VCv
This is my dmesg https://pastebin.com/ztSAiZWKI don't see any errors on that, there is someone with suggestions about what log check?
« Last Edit: 2018/08/13, 14:58:12 by Mte90 »

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #87 on: 2018/08/13, 14:11:05 »
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[     5.148] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
 [     5.150] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 [     5.246] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
 [     5.246]    compiled for 1.20.0, module version = 1.0.0
Is not right if you use the binary blob. It should look like that:

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[     3.360] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[     3.362] (II) Loading /usr/lib/nvidia/current/modules/libglx.so
[     3.537] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[     3.537]     compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[     3.537]     Module class: X.Org Server Extension
So the blob is not installed right.
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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #88 on: 2018/08/13, 14:14:05 »
Checking the log with the 1.19 release I don't get that path.
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[     5.724] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[     5.726] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libglx.so
[     5.847] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
So seems a problem with nvidia package and the new release, I will open a ticket on xorg package.Thanks for the help.

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