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Title: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: samoht on 2017/09/02, 13:25:26

https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=6809.msg55490#msg55490 (https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=6809.msg55490#msg55490)
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... cause I am running KDE Plasma 5.10.5
@piper, just out of curiosity, did you install KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from the experimental repo?
Is that already satisfactorily stable?
Greetings,
Tom
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: piper on 2017/09/02, 19:01:10
I do not advise or recommend unless you know how to fix or ready to reinstall

PAY ATTENTION TO APT

Mind you, I use a source no-one recommends and have used it since day one (mythtv), all my builds include it also, I just never had a problem (politics & epoch) with it.

The day I installed from experimental, this is what it looked like, and I installed.

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root@x1:/home/piper# apt update; apt full-upgrade -t experimental -s
Get:1 http://10.10.10.3:3142/incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd buildd-unstable InRelease [58.1 kB]
Hit:2 http://10.10.10.3:3142/mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/debian unstable InRelease
Hit:3 http://10.10.10.3:3142/deb.debian.org/debian experimental InRelease
Hit:4 http://10.10.10.3:3142/mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/siduction/extra unstable InRelease
Hit:5 http://10.10.10.3:3142/packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable InRelease
Get:6 http://10.10.10.3:3142/www.deb-multimedia.org sid InRelease [22.0 kB]
Get:7 http://10.10.10.3:3142/incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd buildd-unstable/main i386 Packages [197 kB]
Get:8 http://10.10.10.3:3142/incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd buildd-unstable/main amd64 Packages [196 kB]
Get:9 http://10.10.10.3:3142/incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd buildd-unstable/main Translation-en [171 kB]
Get:10 http://10.10.10.3:3142/www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main i386 Packages [150 kB]
Get:11 http://10.10.10.3:3142/www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main amd64 Packages [148 kB]
Fetched 942 kB in 4s (224 kB/s)                             
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
26 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
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Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: piper on 2017/09/02, 19:20:44
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System:    Host: x1 Kernel: 4.12.10-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.10.5
           Distro: siduction 17.1.0 Patience - kde - (201708240114)
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: Gigabyte model: GA-970A-UD3 v: x.x BIOS: Award v: F7 date: 10/22/2012
CPU:       Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3500 MHz 1: 1400 MHz 2: 1400 MHz 3: 2000 MHz 4: 2500 MHz 5: 1400 MHz 6: 1400 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GM204 [GeForce GTX 970]
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.3 ) drivers: nvidia (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 970/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 381.22
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: samoht on 2017/09/02, 20:25:13
@piper, thanks vor paying attention and detailed info.
Greetings,
Tom
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: Mte90 on 2017/09/05, 14:12:48
I am using that version and after few hours plasmashell is freezing  so I cannot use the window but the plasmoid are wroking (animations).The only way is to go to another tty, kill plasmashell and re run plasmashell.
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: piper on 2017/09/05, 21:34:13
The only freeze I have is logging in, it takes a good minute to two minutes to get to the desktop, other than that, I have no problems, once to the desktop, it works, no lag,freezing,etc..
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: dibl on 2017/09/05, 22:41:15
Quote from: piper
The only freeze I have is logging in ....


I saw that issue during the flood of plasma/kde updates over the past weekend, only on one old computer, but the last round of updates seems to have fixed it.
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: Lanzi on 2017/09/06, 00:17:10
my 5.8 is crasing from time to time... every 12-16 hours... so no stable Plasma right now... Lets hope 5.10 comes to sid soon.
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: Mte90 on 2017/09/06, 10:11:51
As I can see freeze and if I wait too much time the keyboard is blocked so I cannot switch.I can see when this is happening when the ram consume is becoming huge like 5 gb of ram but the crash doesn't contain useful information.
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: piper on 2017/09/06, 14:20:41
Quote from: Mte90
As I can see freeze and if I wait too much time the keyboard is blocked so I cannot switch.I can see when this is happening when the ram consume is becoming huge like 5 gb of ram but the crash doesn't contain useful information.

I am curious to know how you installed and what packages you use.
I have nothing from  "kdepim"  installed (kmail, etc)

I now have this installed on 3 of my 4 machines, all run good except the login hiccup.

Two machines nvidia, one amd for video.

** NOTE **  I highly recommend waiting for KDE Plasma 5.10.5 in sid, as this is taken from experimental and is not for everybody and can break your system worse than sid ever can ;)
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: Mte90 on 2017/09/06, 14:37:34
I am using from experimental and nvidia with also kpim but from the log as I can remember the issue was on the screen and not from the software installed
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: Mte90 on 2017/09/06, 15:20:02
https://paste.kde.org/p547t6vnp The crash log, this time plasmashell is crashed and I got the error wihtout so many problems.
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: piper on 2017/09/06, 15:40:15
While I don't have time at the moment to search this, but, might be related to Qt Creator

Older, but ...

https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-40445
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: Mte90 on 2017/09/08, 10:10:24
The issue keep happening but I have no idea about what to do.I am using nvidia and I think that from the log there aren't useful information.Sometimes plasmashell crash and restart without anything by me or sometimes when I see that the system is freezing I kill the process.The other day was gettning like 8 gb of ram and VLC wasn't working of too much of ram used, so when I see that take like more of 2gb of ram I kill the process.
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: samoht on 2017/09/10, 22:03:23
https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=6826.msg55560#msg55560 (https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=6826.msg55560#msg55560)
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The only freeze I have is logging in, it takes a good minute to two minutes to get to the desktop ...

Confirmed on my (test) machine.

Greetings,
Tom
Title: Re: KDE Plasma 5.10.5 from experimental repo?
Post by: Mte90 on 2017/09/10, 22:07:00
Seems that with the last updates the issue is not happening anymore but I will continue to monitoring the situation.