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Offline Locutus

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[EN] Perfect install but not booting into Siduction
« on: 2022/05/30, 14:06:39 »
I downloaded the latest ISO (siduction-21.3.0-wintersky-kde-amd64-202112231751.iso) yesterday and copied it to my Ventoy key, rebooted installed and was informed the install went perfect, but after reboot ended up booting right into Manjaro. Rebooted into bios to check which drive had priority and switched it to the drive with Siduction on it and rebooted, but this time it bypassed Siduction and boot to my Ventoy key.  I've checked the drive with Siduction on it and the boot part ion looks fine and the / partition looks fine. Any thoughts on why the Siduction boot loader might being by passed and thus not booting into Siduction? Thanks


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System:
  Kernel: 5.17.9-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.1.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-5.17-x86_64
    root=UUID=f84b44a0-8284-4b4d-a192-926379def50e rw rootflags=subvol=@ quiet
    apparmor=1 security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
  Console: pty pts/2 wm: kwin_x11 DM: SDDM Distro: Manjaro Linux
    base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING v: Rev 1.xx
    serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 4204 date: 01/28/2021
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M325
    serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes
    status: discharging
  Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard K360
    serial: <filter> charge: 100% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes
    status: discharging
Memory:
  RAM: total: 23.45 GiB used: 8.7 GiB (37.1%)
  Array-1: capacity: 128 GiB slots: 4 EC: None max-module-size: 32 GiB
    note: est.
  Device-1: DIMM_A1 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered)
    size: 8 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s volts: curr: 1.2 min: 1.2 max: 1.2
    width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: Corsair
    part-no: CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 serial: N/A
  Device-2: DIMM_A2 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered)
    size: 8 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s volts: curr: 1.2 min: 1.2 max: 1.2
    width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: Corsair
    part-no: CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 serial: N/A
  Device-3: DIMM_B1 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered)
    size: 4 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s volts: curr: 1.2 min: 1.2 max: 1.2
    width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: G Skill Intl
    part-no: F4-2666C15-4GVR serial: N/A
  Device-4: DIMM_B2 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered)
    size: 4 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s volts: curr: 1.2 min: 1.2 max: 1.2
    width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: G Skill Intl
    part-no: F4-2666C15-4GVR serial: N/A
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 socket: AM4 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2
    family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0 microcode: 0x8701021
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB desc: 6x512 KiB
    L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2316 high: 3600 min/max: 2200/4208 boost: enabled
    base/boost: 3600/4200 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil
    volts: 1.1 V ext-clock: 100 MHz cores: 1: 3600 2: 2200 3: 2200 4: 2200
    5: 2200 6: 2200 7: 2200 8: 2200 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2200
    bogomips: 86435
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm adx aes aperfmperf apic arat avic avx avx2 bmi1
    bmi2 bpext cat_l3 cdp_l3 clflush clflushopt clwb clzero cmov cmp_legacy
    constant_tsc cpb cpuid cqm cqm_llc cqm_mbm_local cqm_mbm_total
    cqm_occup_llc cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de decodeassists extapic extd_apicid
    f16c flushbyasid fma fpu fsgsbase fxsr fxsr_opt ht hw_pstate ibpb ibs
    irperf lahf_lm lbrv lm mba mca mce misalignsse mmx mmxext monitor movbe
    msr mtrr mwaitx nonstop_tsc nopl npt nrip_save nx osvw overflow_recov pae
    pat pausefilter pclmulqdq pdpe1gb perfctr_core perfctr_llc perfctr_nb
    pfthreshold pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rapl rdpid rdpru rdrand rdseed rdt_a
    rdtscp rep_good sep sev sev_es sha_ni skinit smap smca sme smep ssbd sse
    sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 stibp succor svm svm_lock syscall tce
    topoext tsc tsc_scale umip v_spec_ctrl v_vmsave_vmload vgif vmcb_clean vme
    vmmcall wbnoinvd wdt xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveerptr xsaveopt xsaves
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass
    mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1
    mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2
    mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA TU116 [GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER] vendor: eVga.com.
    driver: nvidia v: 515.43.04 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 515.xx+
    status: current (as of 2022-05) arch: Turing pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s
    lanes: 8 link-max: lanes: 16 bus-ID: 08:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:2187
    class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.3 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.1
    compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: nvidia gpu: nvidia display-ID: :0
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1080 s-dpi: 97 s-size: 670x283mm (26.38x11.14")
    s-diag: 727mm (28.63")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-0 res: 2560x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 97
    size: 673x284mm (26.5x11.18") diag: 730mm (28.76") modes: N/A
  OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2
    v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 515.43.04 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA TU116 High Definition Audio vendor: eVga.com.
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 8
    link-max: lanes: 16 bus-ID: 08:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:1aeb class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 0b:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.17.9-1-MANJARO running: yes
  Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no
  Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 15.0 running: yes
  Sound Server-4: PipeWire v: 0.3.51 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igb v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
    chip-ID: 8086:1539 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Message: No bluetooth data found.
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 20.58 TiB used: 11.71 TiB (56.9%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital
    model: WD Blue SN570 500GB size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
    rev: 234100WD temp: 37.9 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes health: PASSED on: 38d 13h cycles: 39
    read-units: 1,509,073 [772 GB] written-units: 23,372,928 [11.9 TB]
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: MZNTY128HDHP-000L1
    family: based SSDs size: 119.24 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B sata: 3.1 speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter>
    rev: 3L0Q temp: 26 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 3y 142d 15h cycles: 1330
    read: 6.6 MiB written: 17.2 MiB Old-Age: threshold: 1
  ID-3: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Seagate
    model: Expansion HDD size: 7.28 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B
    logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1801 scheme: GPT
  SMART Message: A mandatory SMART command failed. Various possible causes.
  ID-4: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Seagate
    model: ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z family: Archive HDD (SMR) size: 7.28 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B sata: 3.1 speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    type: HDD rpm: 5980 serial: <filter> rev: RT17 temp: 26 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 4y 254d 0h cycles: 2048
    read: 682.84 TiB written: 38.59 TiB Pre-Fail: attribute: Spin_Retry_Count
    value: 100 worst: 100 threshold: 97
  ID-5: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 type: USB vendor: Seagate
    model: ST330006 51NS size: 2.73 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B
    logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 7101 scheme: GPT
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  ID-6: /dev/sde maj-min: 8:64 type: USB vendor: Seagate
    model: ST3000DM 001-1E6166 size: 2.73 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B
    logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 7101 scheme: GPT
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 465.46 GiB size: 465.46 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 53.2 GiB (11.4%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2 label: N/A uuid: f84b44a0-8284-4b4d-a192-926379def50e
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 568 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat block-size: 512 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1 label: NO_LABEL uuid: 911A-7137
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 465.46 GiB size: 465.46 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 53.2 GiB (11.4%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2 label: N/A uuid: f84b44a0-8284-4b4d-a192-926379def50e
  ID-4: /mnt/Docs raw-size: 20.11 GiB size: 19.5 GiB (96.97%)
    used: 4.09 GiB (21.0%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sde5
    maj-min: 8:69 label: Docs uuid: 355b5cfa-f9c4-4f9e-8482-30d70c3cf6f4
  ID-5: /mnt/Downloads raw-size: 201.25 GiB size: 197.03 GiB (97.91%)
    used: 24.99 GiB (12.7%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sde4
    maj-min: 8:68 label: Downloads uuid: 2f8b8a65-923f-418a-8050-5c1fc9e14bb1
  ID-6: /mnt/Master Backup raw-size: 7.28 TiB size: 7.22 TiB (99.20%)
    used: 5.02 TiB (69.5%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sdc1
    maj-min: 8:33 label: Master Backup
    uuid: 0a31a19b-b10e-4fec-857e-317dc6113e92
  ID-7: /mnt/Master Backup 2 raw-size: 2.73 TiB size: 2.69 TiB (98.39%)
    used: 813.57 GiB (29.6%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sdd1
    maj-min: 8:49 label: Master Backup 2
    uuid: 8e37f67a-3bec-4ccd-8adf-e41c63d0fe07
  ID-8: /mnt/Movie Series raw-size: 1.83 TiB size: 1.8 TiB (98.37%)
    used: 749.62 GiB (40.7%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sdb2
    maj-min: 8:18 label: Movie Series
    uuid: e8b1d31e-43e2-45a3-9f1d-afa38669d254
  ID-9: /mnt/Movies raw-size: 2.28 TiB size: 2.25 TiB (98.39%)
    used: 1.04 TiB (46.2%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sde3
    maj-min: 8:67 label: Movies uuid: 52234cc7-f941-4ce0-91fb-1516085dde76
  ID-10: /mnt/Music raw-size: 197.99 GiB size: 193.82 GiB (97.90%)
    used: 63.96 GiB (33.0%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sde2
    maj-min: 8:66 label: Music uuid: b681c23e-da1b-49e4-934d-f448145236d9
  ID-11: /mnt/Music Videos raw-size: 36.46 GiB size: 34.84 GiB (95.56%)
    used: 20.61 GiB (59.2%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sde1
    maj-min: 8:65 label: Music Videos
    uuid: 66680475-7b00-4600-be67-950f78ee5818
  ID-12: /mnt/Television raw-size: 5.45 TiB size: 5.36 TiB (98.41%)
    used: 3.95 TiB (73.7%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sdb1
    maj-min: 8:17 label: Television uuid: e47dfa9c-4b1f-4d4d-83c5-c78c48f3c087
  ID-13: /run/media/locutus/9194464d-f9ce-4d04-a30a-0d905c281608
    raw-size: 118.95 GiB size: 118.95 GiB (100.00%) used: 8.07 GiB (6.8%)
    fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 label: N/A
    uuid: 9194464d-f9ce-4d04-a30a-0d905c281608
  ID-14: /run/timeshift/backup raw-size: 465.46 GiB
    size: 465.46 GiB (100.00%) used: 53.2 GiB (11.4%) fs: btrfs
    block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2 label: N/A
    uuid: f84b44a0-8284-4b4d-a192-926379def50e
  ID-15: /var/cache raw-size: 465.46 GiB size: 465.46 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 53.2 GiB (11.4%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2 label: N/A uuid: f84b44a0-8284-4b4d-a192-926379def50e
  ID-16: /var/log raw-size: 465.46 GiB size: 465.46 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 53.2 GiB (11.4%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2 label: N/A uuid: f84b44a0-8284-4b4d-a192-926379def50e
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 size: 300 MiB fs: vfat label: NO_LABEL
    uuid: 73AC-A97B
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 10 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-2: 1-6:2 info: Realtek RTS5411 Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s
    chip-ID: 0bda:5411 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-6.2:3 info: Logitech Unifying Receiver
    type: Keyboard,Mouse,HID driver: logitech-djreceiver,usbhid interfaces: 3
    rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 98mA chip-ID: 046d:c52b class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: 1-6.4:5 info: Logitech Unifying Receiver
    type: Keyboard,Mouse,HID driver: logitech-djreceiver,usbhid interfaces: 3
    rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 98mA chip-ID: 046d:c52b class-ID: 0300
  Hub-3: 2-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 2-2:2 info: Seagate RSS LLC Expansion HDD type: Mass Storage
    driver: uas interfaces: 1 rev: 3.2 speed: 5 Gb/s power: 8mA
    chip-ID: 0bc2:2038 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Hub-4: 3-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 3-1:2 info: VIA Labs USB2.0 Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s
    chip-ID: 2109:2817 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-6: 4-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-7: 4-1:2 info: VIA Labs USB3.0 Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 5 Gb/s
    chip-ID: 2109:0817 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 4-1.1:4 info: Intrinsix NS-PCHDEDS19 Series DISK1
    type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s
    power: 8mA chip-ID: 0578:0578 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Device-2: 4-1.4:5 info: Intrinsix NS-PCHDEDS19 Series DISK2
    type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s
    power: 8mA chip-ID: 0578:0578 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Device-3: 4-2:3 info: ASMedia ASM1051E SATA 6Gb/s bridge ASM1053E ASM1153
    3Gb/s ASM1153E bridge
    type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s chip-ID: 174c:55aa class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Hub-8: 5-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-9: 6-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-10: 7-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-11: 8-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: 36.0 C gpu: nvidia temp: 43 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1445 case-1: 0 case-2: 0 case-3: 0 gpu: nvidia
    fan: 0%
  Power: 12v: 9.97 5v: N/A 3.3v: N/A vbat: 3.18
Info:
  Processes: 497 Uptime: 11h 11m wakeups: 37 Init: systemd v: 250
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.1.0 clang: 13.0.1 Packages: 1622
  pacman: 1581 lib: 441 flatpak: 41 snap: 0 Shell: Zsh (sudo) v: 5.9
  default: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.16

« Last Edit: 2022/05/30, 15:46:34 by Locutus »

Offline unklarer

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Re: Perfect install but not booting into Siduction
« Reply #1 on: 2022/05/31, 09:10:30 »
You forgot to update your main boot loader, and... , or ... or   ;)
« Last Edit: 2022/05/31, 09:14:06 by unklarer »

Offline Locutus

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Re: Perfect install but not booting into Siduction
« Reply #2 on: 2022/05/31, 16:29:39 »
Siduction install included a boot partition and installed Grub so it should of configured Grub to boot right to Siduction. I should not have to configure Manjaro's boot loader to take me to Siduction. That said I installed XeroLinux and I.m loving it, and no issue with it setting up Grub correctly.

Offline devil

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Re: Perfect install but not booting into Siduction
« Reply #3 on: 2022/07/01, 12:13:53 »
You could put the image on an empty usb-key and  see if that boots, and then go from there. I never used Ventoy, so I have no idea what the issue could be.

Offline Locutus

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Re: Perfect install but not booting into Siduction
« Reply #4 on: 2022/08/18, 17:46:57 »
I'm revisiting this even though it's been awhile. I have some questions before I attempt to do anew install.

I noticed in two review videos that when they went to install and allowed it to have the entire drive it didn't show it creating a boot partition. If it's a BTRFS install on a system that has no other OS that's fine cause I know one can install without a boot partition depending on how the particular distro is setup. I want to make sure since I have XeroLinux and Manjaro on one drive and Siduction will be on it's own drive that Suduction will create a boot partition besides the OS partition.

Next I noticed in one of the reviews that Flameshot is installed and I'm wondering if it's what is used by default for screenshots? I would prefer Spectacle.

And lastly are the nVidia drivers installed or do I need to do it after landing on the desktop and after doing the initial updates?

Thanks for any and all information and help with my questions.

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Re: Perfect install but not booting into Siduction
« Reply #5 on: 2022/08/19, 19:57:47 »
Spectacle is installed and waiting for you on print key. If you go for another try, we built some fresh images today. https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=8679.0.

We also have os_prober activated, that was deactivated in a lot of distros not long ago. So siduction should be picked up after install. NVIDIA stuff is totally above my pay grade. :)
« Last Edit: 2022/08/19, 20:10:40 by devil »

Offline Locutus

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Re: Perfect install but not booting into Siduction
« Reply #6 on: 2022/08/20, 13:25:33 »
OK I will one of your new images to see if that plays any nicer with my hardware. The install I did the day before yesterday gets so far after rebooting after the install and still does not land on the desktop. This is something about Siduction that does not like to play nice with common hardware. I have never had any OS not boot to it's desktop after install other that Siduction. Thanks for the reply and the info much appreciated.

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Re: Perfect install but not booting into Siduction
« Reply #7 on: 2022/08/20, 18:42:48 »
Spectacle is installed and waiting for you on print key. If you go for another try, we built some fresh images today. https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=8679.0.

We also have os_prober activated, that was deactivated in a lot of distros not long ago. So siduction should be picked up after install. NVIDIA stuff is totally above my pay grade. :)

OK the new ISO did the trick. At this point I'm assuming something installed during installing the previous release broke the system. The only issue now is Synaptic really doesn't have that much of my software I usually install regardless of claims that it's one of the best installers out there. Example I had to find tutorials for Vivaldi, Vivaldi-snapshot, and Chrome.

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Re: Perfect install but not booting into Siduction
« Reply #8 on: 2022/08/24, 20:24:23 »
Sorry, we don't care about Synaptic at all.

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Re: Perfect install but not booting into Siduction
« Reply #9 on: 2022/08/24, 22:33:15 »
Synaptic really doesn't have that much of my software I usually install regardless of claims that it's one of the best installers out there. Example I had to find tutorials for Vivaldi, Vivaldi-snapshot, and Chrome.

You have some misunderstanding of what Synaptic is. Synaptic shows you any package available from the repos, just the same as apt (search) on the command line would do. It is not a application "store" but merely - to stay in the analogy - one of many different hallways to the same warehouse.

That said, I assume the tutorials you found would mention why they even exist: Vivaldi and Chrome is both proprietary software and therefore not included in Siduction or any other Debian based distribution. Hence Ubuntu, Linux Mint here.

The way XeroLinux and Manjaro offer those is fundamentally different:

1) XeroLinux has the AUR pre-activated, which on the one hand offers you more software but on the other hand puts you in the risk of getting unmaintained, user gerenated "packages" which don't have any quality checks done. It's a good source for getting stuff, but you should both know what you're doing and check things you pull from there by yourself.

2) Manjaro goes the same way for Chrome, see above for the risks. For Vivaldi they have a deal with Vivaldi Technology AS, the company developing the browser and connected services. It is safe to assume that Manjaro GmbH & Co. KG, the company, earns money for any Vivaldi installation. That's not a bad thing per se, but explains why they offer Vivaldi pre-packaged in their official repos.

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Re: Perfect install but not booting into Siduction
« Reply #10 on: 2022/08/25, 12:00:25 »
Synaptic is just a front end for apt. Eye candy really. Apt comes built in with all the Debian verified software and the Siduction bits. There is a lot more available if your willing to trust but verify it yourself. You just need to add the sources.list or install a one off .deb. Again, this falls on the responsibility of the user. 

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« Reply #11 on: 2022/08/25, 14:27:08 »
Synaptic is just a front end for apt. Eye candy really. Apt comes built in with all the Debian verified software and the Siduction bits. There is a lot more available if your willing to trust but verify it yourself. You just need to add the sources.list or install a one off .deb. Again, this falls on the responsibility of the user.

That may be so but sometimes Synaptic comes hand to at lease get the correct name of a file or program and then install it through Konsole.  I made a list of sites that I have install items via the commandline using their tutorials. As for .deb files yes I've installed a few without any issues.

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« Reply #12 on: 2022/08/25, 14:30:08 »
Sorry, we don't care about Synaptic at all.

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« Reply #13 on: 2022/08/25, 14:54:25 »
Sorry, we don't care about Synaptic at all.

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What devil referred to is, that we're not encouraging to use Synaptic, Discover et al which is written in our manual: https://manual.siduction.org/sys-admin-apt_en.html#why-use-apt-exclusively