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Title: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: devil on 2023/01/24, 12:31:24
Today it was reported on the Debian mailing list (https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2023/01/msg00039.html) that Plasma 5.27 Beta has been uploaded to Unstable and is available in siduction accordingly. I have written a blog post (https://linuxnews.de/2023/01/24/kde-plasma-27-beta-in-debian-unstable/) about it in German. Please kindly throw it against your preferred online translator.
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: titan on 2023/01/24, 13:51:58
where is the blog
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: dibl on 2023/01/24, 14:17:59
where is the blog
@titan, "blog post" in devil's post is a link -- click it.

Today I pulled KDE 5.26.90 in with full-upgrade, and several LibreOffice packages were removed, but most of them are OK and still functional, FYI.
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: titan on 2023/01/24, 15:51:25
Dibi, thanks I looked all over the site for a link, getting old
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: eriefisher on 2023/01/24, 16:04:51
where is the blog
@titan, "blog post" in devil's post is a link -- click it.

Today I pulled KDE 5.26.90 in with full-upgrade, and several LibreOffice packages were removed, but most of them are OK and still functional, FYI.
I don't use KDE but rather LXQT and todays upgrade wants to remove several Libreoffice packages and upgrade several others.

Edit/addition:
This is from my Cinamon install. Libreoffice in not currently installed as it's not really desktop use. It seems that it's not really KDE related. I'm sure it will be sorted shortly.
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The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libreoffice : Depends: libreoffice-core (= 4:7.4.4-7) but it is not installable
              Depends: libreoffice-writer but it is not installable
              Recommends: libreoffice-nlpsolver but it is not installable
              Recommends: libreoffice-sdbc-postgresql but it is not installable
              Recommends: libreoffice-wiki-publisher but it is not installable
libreoffice-base : Depends: libreoffice-core (= 4:7.4.4-7) but it is not installable
                    Recommends: libreoffice-writer but it is not installable
libreoffice-calc : Depends: libreoffice-core (= 4:7.4.4-7) but it is not installable
libreoffice-core-nogui : Breaks: libreoffice-calc but 4:7.4.4-7 is to be installed
libreoffice-draw : Depends: libreoffice-core (= 4:7.4.4-7) but it is not installable
libreoffice-impress : Depends: libreoffice-core (= 4:7.4.4-7) but it is not installable
libreoffice-math : Depends: libreoffice-core (= 4:7.4.4-7) but it is not installable
libreoffice-report-builder-bin : Depends: libreoffice-core but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: finotti on 2023/01/24, 21:20:53
I still have some essential packages being removed, such as kwin and plasma-desktop...

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Removing                                                                                                                           
=====================================================================================================================================
  Package:                                    Version:                                                                        Size: 
  kde-config-screenlocker                    5.26.5-1                                                                      632 KB 
  kde-window-manager                          4:5.12.1-1                                                                      32 KB 
  kinfocenter                                4:5.26.5-1                                                                    4.4 MB 
  kwin-addons                                4:5.26.5-1                                                                    243 KB 
  kwin-common                                4:5.26.5-1+b1                                                                11.8 MB 
  kwin-x11                                    4:5.26.5-1+b1                                                                  1.4 MB 
  libkscreenlocker5                          5.26.5-1                                                                      464 KB 
  libreoffice                                1:7.4.4-3                                                                      53 KB 
  libreoffice-base                            1:7.4.4-3                                                                      6.1 MB 
  libreoffice-report-builder-bin              1:7.4.4-3                                                                      3.2 MB 
  plasma-desktop                              4:5.26.5-1                                                                    6.4 MB 
  plasma-widgets-addons                      4:5.26.5-1                                                                    2.0 MB 
  plasma-workspace                            4:5.26.5-1+b1                                                                15.4 MB 
  powerdevil                                  4:5.26.5-1                                                                    1.6 MB 
  sddm-theme-breeze                          4:5.26.5-1+b1                                                                  723 KB 
  sddm-theme-debian-breeze                    4:5.26.5-1+b1                                                                  129 KB


Is it just my system, or just the usual transition?  (I was surprised that dibl could update...)
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: finotti on 2023/01/24, 21:52:43
It seems I have the same problem in my two old aptosid installs, but not in my newer siduction laptop.

I wonder what is the difference...

Here is the "problem resolver" output: https://paste.debian.net/1268353/

EDIT:  It seems I could force install plasma-desktop to "fix it" (followed by DU, I suppose).  Only libkf5screen7 and lxqt-config would be removed.

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# apt -s install plasma-desktop
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  breeze breeze-cursor-theme drkonqi kactivitymanagerd kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-screenlocker kde-style-breeze
  kscreen kwin-common kwin-data kwin-style-breeze kwin-x11 layer-shell-qt libcolorcorrect5 libkdecorations2-5v5
  libkdecorations2private10 libkf5config-bin libkf5config-data libkf5configcore5 libkf5configgui5 libkf5configqml5
  libkf5coreaddons-data libkf5coreaddons5 libkf5dbusaddons-bin libkf5dbusaddons-data libkf5dbusaddons5 libkf5i18n-data libkf5i18n5
  libkf5i18nlocaledata5 libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen-data libkf5screen8 libkf5screendpms8 libkf5service-bin libkf5service-data
  libkf5service5 libkf5sysguard-bin libkf5sysguard-data libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkscreenlocker5 libksgrd9
  libksignalplotter9 libksysguardformatter1 libksysguardsensorfaces1 libksysguardsensors1 libksysguardsystemstats1 libkwineffects14
  libkwinglutils14 libkworkspace5-5 liblayershellqtinterface5 libnotificationmanager1 libplasma-geolocation-interface5
  libpowerdevilcore2 libpowerdevilui5 libprocesscore9 libprocessui9 libtaskmanager6abi1 libweather-ion7 milou oxygen-sounds
  plasma-desktop-data plasma-integration plasma-workspace plasma-workspace-data polkit-kde-agent-1 powerdevil powerdevil-data
  qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard sddm-theme-breeze sddm-theme-debian-breeze
Suggested packages:
  orion-gtk-theme kwin-addons
Recommended packages:
  kde-style-qtcurve systemd-coredump bluedevil breeze-gtk-theme kde-config-gtk-style kde-config-sddm kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kgamma5
  khotkeys kinfocenter kmenuedit ksshaskpass kwrited libpam-kwallet5 plasma-browser-integration plasma-discover plasma-disks
  plasma-nm plasma-pa plasma-systemmonitor plasma-thunderbolt plasma-vault xdg-desktop-portal-kde ksystemstats
  qml-module-org-kde-pipewire
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libkf5screen7 lxqt-config
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libkdecorations2private10 libkf5screen8 libkf5screendpms8
The following packages will be upgraded:
  breeze breeze-cursor-theme drkonqi kactivitymanagerd kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-screenlocker kde-style-breeze
  kscreen kwin-common kwin-data kwin-style-breeze kwin-x11 layer-shell-qt libcolorcorrect5 libkdecorations2-5v5 libkf5config-bin
  libkf5config-data libkf5configcore5 libkf5configgui5 libkf5configqml5 libkf5coreaddons-data libkf5coreaddons5
  libkf5dbusaddons-bin libkf5dbusaddons-data libkf5dbusaddons5 libkf5i18n-data libkf5i18n5 libkf5i18nlocaledata5 libkf5screen-bin
  libkf5screen-data libkf5service-bin libkf5service-data libkf5service5 libkf5sysguard-bin libkf5sysguard-data libkfontinst5
  libkfontinstui5 libkscreenlocker5 libksgrd9 libksignalplotter9 libksysguardformatter1 libksysguardsensorfaces1
  libksysguardsensors1 libksysguardsystemstats1 libkwineffects14 libkwinglutils14 libkworkspace5-5 liblayershellqtinterface5
  libnotificationmanager1 libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libpowerdevilcore2 libpowerdevilui5 libprocesscore9 libprocessui9
  libtaskmanager6abi1 libweather-ion7 milou oxygen-sounds plasma-desktop plasma-desktop-data plasma-integration plasma-workspace
  plasma-workspace-data polkit-kde-agent-1 powerdevil powerdevil-data qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard sddm-theme-breeze
  sddm-theme-debian-breeze
70 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 2 to remove and 376 not upgraded.
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: edlin on 2023/01/24, 22:29:24
libkf5screen7 is replaced by libkf5screen8, so it is not a problem.

edlin
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: devil on 2023/01/25, 08:56:38
Bugreport for LibreOffice (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1029534)

Basically: lo-core depends on lo-common, but lo-common breaks lo-core
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: edlin on 2023/01/26, 10:51:28
The bug in LibreOffice should be fixed in unstable with version 4:7.4.4.-8:
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apt policy libreoffice
libreoffice:
  Installiert:           4:7.4.4-8
  Installationskandidat: 4:7.4.4-8
  Versionstabelle:
 *** 4:7.4.4-8 500
        500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1:7.4.4~rc2-2+b2 500
        500 https://deb.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
        500 https://de.mirrors.clouvider.net/debian bookworm/main amd64 Packages
        500 https://mirror.ipb.de/debian bookworm/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://debian.intergenia.de/debian bookworm/main amd64 Packages
        500 https://ftp.plusline.net/debian bookworm/main amd64 Packages

edlin
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: orinoco on 2023/01/26, 23:57:44
Latte Dock doesn't work anymore for me. Anyone else?

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1029615 (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1029615)
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: eriefisher on 2023/01/27, 00:05:07
This morning almost everything went through. libkf5screen-bin and libkf5screen-data was held back. Otherwise smooth going.
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: charlyheinz on 2023/01/27, 10:24:41
Here too. DU went through, but now using the mouse for inputs in plasma clicks are recognized with a latency (5 sec.).
Example: when I right click on the desktop it takes some seconds until the menu pops up, same with Kate using the ribbon. Someone any idea?

Sorry for my English.
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: pit on 2023/01/27, 15:32:09
Here, too, the upgrade now ran cleanly. Previously, there were problems with the Plasmaoid clock in the control bar. And also the desktop background "Wallpaper" did not work. Everything is OK again.

KDE Plasma Version: 5.26.90
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.102.0
Qt Version: 5.15.8
Kernel Version: 6.1.8-1-siduction-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics 620
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: gorzka on 2023/02/11, 08:37:41
Latte Dock doesn't work anymore for me. Anyone else?

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1029615 (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1029615)
Latte Dock doesn't work for me too
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: devil on 2023/02/11, 12:13:59
Latte Dock has unfortunately been unmaintained (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Latte-Dock-Ends) for a while now and nobody has stepped up to take over. Looks like the end of that.
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: towo on 2023/02/11, 12:56:36
Who needs latte dock nowdays, while we can have a floating panel now?
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: gorzka on 2023/02/12, 05:46:24
Habe noch folgendes festgestellt:

Plymouth geht nicht. ich habe ein Theme eingestellt und mittels
plymouth-set-default-theme -R apple-mac-plymouth
eingestellt. Es wird aber beim booten nicht angezeigt

beim starten von Programmen wird der Mauszeiger mit einem hüpfenden Cursor angezeigt. Ich wollte das abstellen, finde aber keinen Menüpunkt dafür in den Einstellungen.

Ich werde noch ein paar Tage warten, vielleicht wird es ja mit einem Update behoben.
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: eriefisher on 2023/02/12, 12:47:06
Habe noch folgendes festgestellt:

Plymouth geht nicht. ich habe ein Theme eingestellt und mittels
plymouth-set-default-theme -R apple-mac-plymouth
eingestellt. Es wird aber beim booten nicht angezeigt

beim starten von Programmen wird der Mauszeiger mit einem hüpfenden Cursor angezeigt. Ich wollte das abstellen, finde aber keinen Menüpunkt dafür in den Einstellungen.

Ich werde noch ein paar Tage warten, vielleicht wird es ja mit einem Update behoben.
Did you set grub to bootsplash?
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: gorzka on 2023/02/13, 05:16:25
where can i look?
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: hendrikL on 2023/02/13, 09:00:51
The best place to look is
https://wiki.debian.org/plymouth#Configuration

You have to edit the /etc/default/grub and ad splash to the command line.

But read the wiki above.
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: gorzka on 2023/02/13, 10:58:07
Thank you
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: dpanter on 2023/02/16, 22:22:46
Plasma 5.27 was released on February 14, still no packages uploaded to experimental (that I can see at least).
https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.0/

Hopefully it's not too far off. Really miss Preinings repo... :/
Title: Re: Plasma 5.27 Beta in siduction
Post by: samoht on 2023/02/17, 11:37:36
@dpanter
Fully agree.
Even the current KDE gear packages from 2 February are still not complete.
When Norbert Preining was allowed to take care of the KDE packages in Debian before he was kicked out of the project, this was unthinkable.