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Siduction Forum => Upgrade Warnings => Topic started by: Santa on 2014/12/05, 11:29:08
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Hello,
yesterday the KDE SC has been updated in kdenext to its latest version 4.14.3.
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Thanks Santa, looking forward to du.
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Thanks!!!
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Which is the current address of kdenext repo?
It is not present in manual: http://manual.siduction.org/sys-admin-apt#apt-cook
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deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ unstable main
deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ experimental main
deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ experimental-snapshots main
yesterdays update is still in experimental-snapshots main right now
greetz
devil
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Just a friendly warning:
deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ (http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/) experimental main
This one should NOT be used under any circumstance and any complaint about packages there will go directly to my trash can. The other 2 are the ones meant to be used by people, including myself.
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Thank you all!
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Hi all! First post here and already a trouble :-\
After update from kdenext repo kmail and kontact are removed and cannot be installed.
kmail : Depends: libkontactinterface4 (>= 4:4.13.0) but it is not going to be installed
And real question here is, how do I downgrade to KDE 4.12 ?
TY
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$ apt-cache policy libkontactinterface4
libkontactinterface4:
Installed: 4:4.14.1-90r0
Candidate: 4:4.14.1-90r0
Version table:
*** 4:4.14.1-90r0 0
500 http://mirror.lug.udel.edu/pub/siduction/kdenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Do you have the correct repositories enabled for kdenext?
This is my line for the repo: #deb ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/siduction/kdenext unstable main
Just a guess, but, the package is there.
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hmm...
made a test on my system with just the base, extra and fixes repos until now, by adding kdenext to the sources.list:
apt-get update....
apt-get dist-upgrade -s
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
akregator kaddressbook kdepim kjots kmail knode knotes kontact korganizer libeventviews4 libincidenceeditorsng4 libksieveui4 libmailcommon4
libmailimporter4 libmessagecomposer4 libmessageviewer4 libnoteshared4 libpimcommon4 libtemplateparser4
...
LANG=C apt-cache policy libkontactinterface4
libkontactinterface4:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:4.14.1-90r0
Version table:
4:4.14.1-90r0 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
but:
LANG=C apt-get install -s kmail
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
akonadiconsole akregator blogilo kaddressbook kalarm kde-l10n-de kde-l10n-engb kde-l10n-it kde-l10n-pl kde-l10n-ptbr kde-l10n-ro kdelibs-bin
kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdepim-kresources kdoctools kjots kleopatra knode knotes kontact korganizer libkcmutils4 libkde3support4
libkdeclarative5 libkdecore5 libkdepim4 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkfile4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4
libkimproxy4 libkio5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkleo4 libkmediaplayer4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4
libkontactinterface4
libkparts4 libkpgp4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkrosscore4 libksieve4 libktexteditor4 libkunitconversion4
libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4 libmimelib4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libplasma3 libsolid4 libthreadweaver4
Suggested packages:
kttsd jovie kde-standard spamassassin bogofilter annoyance-filter spambayes bsfilter crm114 clamav f-prot-installer procmail gnokii
kdepim-groupware hspell media-player-info
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libeventviews4 libincidenceeditorsng4 libkontactinterface4a libksieveui4 libmailcommon4 libmailimporter4 libmessagecomposer4
libmessageviewer4 libnoteshared4 libpimcommon4 libtemplateparser4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libkimproxy4 libkontactinterface4 libmimelib4
The following packages will be upgraded:
akonadiconsole akregator blogilo kaddressbook kalarm kde-l10n-de kde-l10n-engb kde-l10n-it kde-l10n-pl kde-l10n-ptbr kde-l10n-ro kdelibs-bin
kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdepim-kresources kdoctools kjots kleopatra kmail knode knotes kontact korganizer libkcmutils4
libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecore5 libkdepim4 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkfile4 libkhtml5
libkidletime4 libkio5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkleo4 libkmediaplayer4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4
libkparts4 libkpgp4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkrosscore4 libksieve4 libktexteditor4 libkunitconversion4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4
libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libplasma3 libsolid4 libthreadweaver4
61 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 11 to remove and 131 not upgraded.
Inst libknotifyconfig4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libplasma3 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libknewstuff3-4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libknewstuff2-4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkunitconversion4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst kdelibs5-plugins [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkhtml5 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libktexteditor4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkprintutils4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkmediaplayer4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkdewebkit5 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkde3support4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkparts4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkfile4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkemoticons4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst kdoctools [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst kdelibs-bin [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkio5 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libsolid4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkdesu5 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkpty4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libnepomukutils4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libnepomukquery4a [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libnepomuk4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkjsembed4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkjsapi4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkrosscore4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst kdelibs5-data [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [all]) []
Inst libkntlm4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkidletime4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkdnssd4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkdeclarative5 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkcmutils4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkdeui5 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libthreadweaver4 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkdecore5 [4:4.14.2-4] (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64])
Inst kde-l10n-ro [4:4.14.0-1] (4:4.14.3-90r0 packages.siduction.org [all])
Inst kde-l10n-ptbr [4:4.14.0-1] (4:4.14.3-90r0 packages.siduction.org [all])
Inst kde-l10n-pl [4:4.14.0-1] (4:4.14.3-90r0 packages.siduction.org [all])
Inst kde-l10n-it [4:4.14.0-1] (4:4.14.3-90r0 packages.siduction.org [all])
Inst kde-l10n-engb [4:4.14.0-1] (4:4.14.3-90r0 packages.siduction.org [all])
Inst kde-l10n-de [4:4.14.0-1] (4:4.14.3-90r0 packages.siduction.org [all])
Inst korganizer [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst kontact [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst knotes [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst kjots [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst kaddressbook [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst akregator [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst knode [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst kmail [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Remv libkontactinterface4a [4:4.14.2-2] []
Inst libkontactinterface4 (4:4.14.1-90r0 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Remv libnoteshared4 [4:4.14.2-2] []
Remv libpimcommon4 [4:4.14.2-2] [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 libksieveui4:amd64 blogilo:amd64 libmailcommon4:amd64 libkdepim4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Remv libmailimporter4 [4:4.14.2-2] [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 libksieveui4:amd64 blogilo:amd64 libmailcommon4:amd64 libkdepim4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Remv libksieveui4 [4:4.14.2-2] [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 blogilo:amd64 libmailcommon4:amd64 libkdepim4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Remv libincidenceeditorsng4 [4:4.14.2-2] [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 blogilo:amd64 libmailcommon4:amd64 libkdepim4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Remv libeventviews4 [4:4.14.2-2] [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 blogilo:amd64 libmailcommon4:amd64 libkdepim4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Inst kleopatra [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 blogilo:amd64 libmailcommon4:amd64 libkdepim4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Inst kdepim-kresources [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 blogilo:amd64 libmailcommon4:amd64 libkdepim4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Inst kalarm [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 blogilo:amd64 libmailcommon4:amd64 libkdepim4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Inst blogilo [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 libmailcommon4:amd64 libkdepim4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Inst akonadiconsole [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 libmailcommon4:amd64 libkdepim4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Inst libkdepim4 [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 libmailcommon4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Remv libmailcommon4 [4:4.14.2-2] [libmessagecomposer4:amd64 libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Remv libmessagecomposer4 [4:4.14.2-2] [libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 libtemplateparser4:amd64 ]
Remv libtemplateparser4 [4:4.14.2-2] [libmessageviewer4:amd64 libmessagecore4:amd64 ]
Remv libmessageviewer4 [4:4.14.2-2] [libmessagecore4:amd64 ]
Inst libkpgp4 [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) [libmessagecore4:amd64 ]
Inst libkleo4 [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) [libmessagecore4:amd64 ]
Inst libksieve4 [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) [libmessagecore4:amd64 ]
Inst libmessagelist4 [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) [libmessagecore4:amd64 ]
Inst libmessagecore4 [4:4.14.2-2] (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libmimelib4 (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) []
Inst libkimproxy4 (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64])
Conf libkdecore5 (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64])
Conf libkdeui5 (4:4.14.3-siduction1 packages.siduction.org [amd64])
....
Conf kalarm (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64])
Conf blogilo (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64])
Conf akonadiconsole (4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 packages.siduction.org [amd64]) No Errors...
This was a -s test only, not a real d-u. According to this kmail seems to be installable, no idea why the d-u does not upgrade it and sorry, no time to test further atm.
I would suggest to just try an apt-get install kmail before or after the d-u.
greets
ayla
EDIT:
With a little more time i did a real d-u now with kdenext repo activ. First I did an apt-get install kmail, because I did not want to loose all my emails when kmail gets removed during the d-u, then I did the real dist-upgrade. Nothing was removed, evrything is working fine as far as I can see until now.
LANG=C apt-cache policy kde-runtime
kde-runtime:
Installed: 4:4.14.3-siduction1
Candidate: 4:4.14.3-siduction1
Version table:
*** 4:4.14.3-siduction1 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ (http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/) unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4:4.14.2-2 0
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ (http://http.debian.net/debian/) unstable/main amd64 Packages
cal@neskaya:~cal: LANG=C apt-cache policy kmail
kmail:
Installed: 4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2
Candidate: 4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2
Version table:
*** 4:4.14.5+really4.4.11.1+l10n-0r2 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ (http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/) unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4:4.14.2-2 0
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ (http://http.debian.net/debian/) unstable/main amd64 Packages
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Well, repo was
deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext (http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext) unstable main
like devil said in some previous posts.
I tried apt-get install kmail and again get
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kmail : Depends: libkontactinterface4 (>= 4:4.13.0) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Then I changed repo to like @GoingEasy9,
update, upgrade,
but getting the same error message about unmet dependencies and broken packages >:(
Is there an easy way to downgrade to 4.14.2 or anyone have another idea?
thanks
EDIT [source lists]
debian.list
# debian loadbalancer
deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
# misc. siduction-lists
#deb http://packages.siduction.org/experimental unstable main
#deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/experimental unstable main
#deb http://packages.siduction.org/user unstable main
#deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/user unstable main
# official siduction-lists
deb http://packages.siduction.org/base unstable main
#deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/base unstable main
deb http://packages.siduction.org/extra unstable main
#deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/extra unstable main
deb http://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable main
#deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable main
#deb http://packages.siduction.org/user unstable main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/user unstable main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/siduction/kdenext unstable main
Maybe I need experimental or user or some other repo activated? :-\
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cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
# debian loadbalancer
deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ (http://http.debian.net/debian/) unstable main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ (http://http.debian.net/debian/) unstable main contrib non-free
# misc. siduction-lists
#deb http://packages.siduction.org/experimental (http://packages.siduction.org/experimental) unstable main
#deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/experimental (http://packages.siduction.org/experimental) unstable main
#deb http://packages.siduction.org/user (http://packages.siduction.org/user) unstable main
#deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/user (http://packages.siduction.org/user) unstable main
# official siduction-lists
deb http://packages.siduction.org/base (http://packages.siduction.org/base) unstable main
#deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/base (http://packages.siduction.org/base) unstable main
deb http://packages.siduction.org/extra (http://packages.siduction.org/extra) unstable main
#deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/extra (http://packages.siduction.org/extra) unstable main
deb http://packages.siduction.org/fixes (http://packages.siduction.org/fixes) unstable main
#deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/fixes (http://packages.siduction.org/fixes) unstable main
deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext (http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext) unstable main
I have the same repos activ as you have.
I did a dist-upgrade just a few minutes before and evrything is fine here. But another thread also shows your problem:
http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5265.0 (http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5265.0).
Maybe there is a solution comming up.
What does apt-mark showhold say? I see the not active experimental repo in your sources.list. Is there something installed out of this repo?
Downgrading kde will not be easy. You would have to deactivate kdenext and then downgrade the packages by installing every package with the right version appended on the package name. You would have to solve every dependency manually... Or, after deactivating kdenext, deinstalling one of the main packages which would remove komplete kde, then install again. I would NOT recommend this. Chances to have a completly broken system after are to good.
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What does apt-mark showhold say? I see the not active experimental repo in your sources.list. Is there something installed out of this repo?
It says nothing. :)
And for the experimental... no, nothing is installed from it. Sources are at defaults except for added kdenext repo.
Well, since downgrade is so complicated, I guess I always could reinstall system. :D
I know, I know it's not the right way but since this system I am having trouble with is on my netbook and just few days old
the fastest and easiest way is reinstall 8)
Thank you all for help
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Problem solved
Well, aptitude helped me. ::)
I was thinking... why not try another thing before reinstall.
And I started aptitude and kmail was uninstallable... one aptitude's solution was to remove kmail for install
and the other one was to remove libkontactinterface4a which was on the version 4.14.3 from kdenext repo
So I did that and next thing you know, kmail was installed and with libkontactinterface4a 4.14.2-2 from unstable repo
;D
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and the other one was to remove libkontactinterface4a which was on the version 4.14.3 from kdenext repo
Strange:
root@neskaya:~# pol libkontactinterface4a
libkontactinterface4a:
Installiert: (keine)
Installationskandidat: 4:4.14.3-siduction1.0.1
Versionstabelle:
4:4.14.3-siduction1.0.1 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
4:4.14.2-2+b1 0
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
4:4.14.2-2 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
root@neskaya:~# pol libkontactinterface4
libkontactinterface4:
Installiert: 4:4.14.1-90r0
Installationskandidat: 4:4.14.1-90r0
Versionstabelle:
*** 4:4.14.1-90r0 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
libkontactinterface4a isn't installed on my system and was not pulled in on a d-u, but libkontactinterface4, for whatever reason. But: both seems to work for the moment, fine. :)
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Problem solved
Well, aptitude helped me. ::)
Yeah, aptitude helps in such situations :)
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Is it possible that the packages in kdenext are built against libical1 which is not available anymore?
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yes
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So if I have the kdenext KDE version installed it is maybe better to put libical1 on hold? Or will there be a siduction fix?
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its a typical franken
sidduction problem - one who runs a clean kdenext installation is not affected
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... and who runs a "clean" kdenext installation?
It is not that simple.
A more elaborate approach would be appreciated. ;)
Greetings
Tom
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Why shouldn't it be a clean kdenext installation? How comes it is not a clean kdenext installation? How can one get a "clean" kdenext installation at all? Of course I have kde packages installed from siduction fixes simply because they are needed but not available in kdenext (like kde-window-manager, kde-style-oxygen, kde-workspace-bin, etcpp). Those packages are not the problem. It's kdenext packages that would get removed, the kdenext packages won't accept libical1a (or vice-versa) if I would want to install it.
It is not the d-u that wants to remove the kdenext packages. The system is "happy" with the installed libical1, nothing is hold, nothing shall be removed, it's as if it doesn't know that there is a libical1a. I wouldn't have noticed that there might be a problem (i.e. a package that is installed but not available anymore) if I haven't read about in the forum. The kdenext packages would be removed if I would try to install the available libical1a manually. I don't, the d-u doesn't either.
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apt-get install libical1a
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
akonadi-kde-resource-googledata akregator backintime-kde baloo baloo-utils baloo4 kaddressbook kde-config-telepathy-accounts
kde-plasma-desktop kde-telepathy kde-telepathy-auth-handler kde-telepathy-call-ui kde-telepathy-contact-list
kde-telepathy-declarative kde-telepathy-desktop-applets kde-telepathy-filetransfer-handler kde-telepathy-integration-module
kde-telepathy-kpeople kde-telepathy-minimal kde-telepathy-send-file kde-telepathy-text-ui kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin
kdebase-workspace-bin kdepim-runtime kdeplasma-addons kgpg kipi-plugins klinkstatus kmail konversation kopete kscreensaver
kscreensaver-xsavers libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kcal4 libical1 libkblog4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4
libkcalutils4 libkdepim4 libkopete4 libkpeople3 libktnef4 libktpcommoninternalsprivate7 libktploggerprivate7 libktpmodelsprivate7
libktpwidgetsprivate7 libmessagelist4 plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-runner-telepathy-contact
plasma-runners-addons plasma-scriptengine-python plasma-widget-lancelot plasma-widgets-addons plasma-widgets-workspace python-kde4
siduction-art-ksplash-indiansummer siduction-art-ksplash-ridersonthestorm tellico
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
libical1a
0 aktualisiert, 1 neu installiert, 63 zu entfernen und 1 nicht aktualisiert.
Es müssen 183 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 189 MB Plattenplatz freigegeben.
Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] n
apt-get dist-upgrade -d
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig
Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet... Fertig
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
linux-headers-3.18-3.towo-siduction-amd64 linux-image-3.18-3.towo-siduction-amd64
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade):
linux-headers-siduction-amd64 linux-image-siduction-amd64
2 aktualisiert, 2 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 1 nicht aktualisiert.
Es müssen 31,5 MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 145 MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
apt-cache policy libical1
libical1:
Installiert: 1.0-1.1
Installationskandidat: 1.0-1.1
Versionstabelle:
*** 1.0-1.1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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piper@x1:~$ apt-cache policy libical1
libical1:
Installed: 1.0-1.2
Candidate: 1.0-1.2
Version table:
*** 1.0-1.2 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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Guess I wasn't fast enough to get libical1 1.0-1.2 before the package vanished...
It seems to be libkcal4 that depends on the wrong package...
$ apt-cache depends libkcal4 | grep libical
Hängt ab von: libical1apt-cache policy libkcal4
libkcal4:
Installiert: 4:4.14.3-siduction1.0.1
Installationskandidat: 4:4.14.3-siduction1.0.1
Versionstabelle:
*** 4:4.14.3-siduction1.0.1 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4:4.14.2-2+b1 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
Also libkcalcore4... I went through all the packages that would get removed on libical1a installation and those two are the only packages with a dependency to libical1...
And I guess that's independent from a so called "clean" kdenext installation...
Maybe only 64bit is affected?
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spacepenguin: apt-cache rdepends libical1a
:) - ich vermute, du hast neben KDE wie üblich noch weitere DEs installiert
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If I ask the Debian repos:
# LANG=C apt-cache policy libical1
libical1:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
# LANG=C apt-cache search libical1
libical1a - iCalendar library implementation in C (runtime)
My repo lines:
# Testing
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
# Unstable
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
# Experimental
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
# base (amd64 / i386 )
deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/base unstable main contrib non-free
# fixes ( amd64 / i386 )
deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/fixes unstable main contrib non-free
# extra (amd4 / i386 )
deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/extra unstable main contrib non-free
# user ( amd64 / i386 )
deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/user unstable main contrib non-free
# kdenext (amd64 / i386)
deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/kdenext unstable main
Greetings
Tom
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spacepenguin: apt-cache rdepends libical1a
:) - ich vermute, du hast neben KDE wie üblich noch weitere DEs installiert
redepends: Komisch, auch da werden libkcal4 und libkcalcore4 aufgelistet - alle anderen gelisteten Pakete sind nicht installiert. Trotzdem soll libical1a nicht installiert werden und libical1a würde libkcal4 deinstallieren (und was da dran hängt).
b) Nein, auf meinem Arbeitssystem schon lange nicht mehr, da ich das hasse, dass die sich gegenseitig beeinflussen und nicht wie früher (Kaiser und so ;) ) komplett getrennt sind. Nur openbox, fluxbox, icewm - aber die Fenstermanager sehe ich nicht als DE an.
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genau darum gehts - Du hast da ein "sauberes" System:
redepends: Komisch, auch da werden libkcal4 und libkcalcore4 aufgelistet - alle anderen gelisteten Pakete sind nicht installiert
und genau die beiden Pakete werden auf dem "reinen" kdenext nicht aktualisiert, weil sie neuer sind als bei debian und keine weiteren Pakete da sind, die diese Abhängigkeit auch haben. der resolver stuft sie so hoch ein, dass keiner die anpacken würde. Das ist bei den anderen Systemen halt nicht so - oder der Resolver sieht das geringfügig anders. Und dann kommt es zu der Entsorgungsorgie, das ist wie beim Domino. Würdest Du jetzt das Paket installieren, dann würdest Du eine Kettenreaktion auslösen und recht viel Plattenplatz gewinnen.
EDIT: Das ist gelebte schwarze Magie