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Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: Santa on 2013/07/07, 21:54:04
Hello,

KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages are now available in kdenext/unstable, to use it,
make sure you have this line in any of your sources.list files:
deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext unstable main

The kdepim 4.10 is mostly untested (however the upgrades are suposed to work)
and it's available here:
deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext kdepim-ng main

Cheers.
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: musca on 2013/07/07, 22:25:10
Hello santa,

no problems with kde 4.10.5 on amd64.
A smooth dist-upgrade and overall good performance.

Thanks for all the work you are doing for siduction.

musca
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: Lanzi on 2013/07/07, 23:36:36
du went well - Gwenview has problems with the kipi-plugins. Batch-resizing pics is freezing kde completly!
Title: RE: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstabl
Post by: clubex on 2013/07/08, 00:19:56
Thanks Santa. Upgrade went smoothly and no problems in operation so far.
Title: RE: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstabl
Post by: dibl on 2013/07/08, 16:32:53
Thanks Santa.  Upgraded yesterday, everything (that I need) is working well.
Title: RE: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstabl
Post by: piper on 2013/07/08, 17:42:23
Yep, all good here too, thanks
Title: RE: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstabl
Post by: GoinEasy9 on 2013/07/09, 02:04:34
I've have a new error warning coming up after the update to 4.10.5, which, didn't happen in 4.10.4.  This is on a Firestarter installation.

Error reads: Nepomuk Semantic Desktop needs the Virtuoso RDF server to store its data. Installing the Virtuoso Soprano plugin is mandatory for using Nepomuk.

I have viruoso-minimal installed, along with virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin and virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common.  Am I missing something?  Should I have virtuoso server installed, or is there a config somewhere that I'm missing?
Title: Re: RE: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/uns
Post by: DeepDayze on 2013/07/09, 03:20:31
Quote from: "GoinEasy9"
I've have a new error warning coming up after the update to 4.10.5, which, didn't happen in 4.10.4.  This is on a Firestarter installation.

Error reads: Nepomuk Semantic Desktop needs the Virtuoso RDF server to store its data. Installing the Virtuoso Soprano plugin is mandatory for using Nepomuk.

I have viruoso-minimal installed, along with virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin and virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common.  Am I missing something?  Should I have virtuoso server installed, or is there a config somewhere that I'm missing?

Perhaps a newer version of Virtuoso needed? There is 6.1.6 in experimental while sid has 6.1.4
Title: RE: Re: RE: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext
Post by: GoinEasy9 on 2013/07/09, 04:05:32
Thanks DeepDayze. I'll keep an eye on that.  But the fact that I seem to be the only one reporting the error, makes me think it might be a configuration problem.  It's still a fairly new Firestarter install, I just have to see if anything I installed could be interfering.  I already checked services and some configs, I just need the time to look a little deeper.
Title: Re: RE: Re: RE: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kde
Post by: DeepDayze on 2013/07/09, 04:27:41
Quote from: "GoinEasy9"
Thanks DeepDayze. I'll keep an eye on that.  But the fact that I seem to be the only one reporting the error, makes me think it might be a configuration problem.  It's still a fairly new Firestarter install, I just have to see if anything I installed could be interfering.  I already checked services and some configs, I just need the time to look a little deeper.


What if you try stopping then restarting virtuoso in a terminal to see what error messages get displayed? That can give clues as to what the problem is
Title: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in
Post by: GoinEasy9 on 2013/07/09, 05:48:00
No luck.  It seems like nepomuk and virtuoso aren't running, even though I can see in the config that all parts should be autostarted.  Oh well, won't have time to play with it again till Thursday.  It's funny, I can't find any errors in the log files.  It's just so weird.
Title: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in
Post by: hendrikL on 2013/07/09, 08:47:53
No luck, for me too.
I only got the error message, that the installation of nepomuk is not complete.
First i checked if virtuoso is running and it is running.
Code: [Select]
/etc/init.d/virtuoso-opensource-6.1 status
[ ok ] Checking status of Virtuoso OpenSource Edition 6.1: virtuoso-opensource-6.1 running.

What is installed

Code: [Select]
ii  libnepomuk4           4:4.10.5-0r0 amd64              
ii  libnepomukcore4             4:4.10.5-90r0      amd64                          
ii  libnepomukquery4a           4:4.10.5-0r0       amd64              
ii  libnepomukutils4            4:4.10.5-0r0       amd64              
ii  libnepomukwidgets4          4:4.10.5-0r0       amd64              
ii  libsmokenepomuk3            4:4.8.4-1+b1       amd64            
ii  nepomuk-core-data           4:4.10.5-90r0      all              
ii  nepomuk-core-runtime        4:4.10.5-90r0      amd64    


Code: [Select]
ii  virtuoso-minimal         6.1.6+dfsg1-3~pre1        all          
ii  virtuoso-opensource            6.1.6+dfsg1-3~pre1        all          
ii  virtuoso-opensource-6.1        6.1.6+dfsg1-3~pre1        amd64        
ii  virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin    6.1.6+dfsg1-3~pre1        amd64        
ii  virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common 6.1.6+dfsg1-3~pre1        amd64        
ii  virtuoso-vad-rdfmappers        6.1.6+dfsg1-3~pre1         all  
     


Is something missing?

System:    Host: hhl.atelier.net Kernel: 3.10-0.towo-siduction-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: KDE 4.10.5 Distro: siduction gefrickel


hendrikL

edit: I made a Test with a new user, there i get the same error message like GoinEasy9
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: samoht on 2013/07/09, 09:31:11
@GoinEasy9, @hendrikL,

yesterday after updating the same problem with incomplete nepomuk packages occurred.
Only after upgrading the two packages
Code: [Select]
$ dpkg -l *soprano* | grep ^ii
ii  libsoprano4                               2.9.2+dfsg.1-3                amd64        libraries for the Soprano RDF framework
ii  soprano-daemon                            2.9.2+dfsg.1-3                amd64        daemon for the Soprano RDF framework
to experimental all went well.
Good luck
Tom
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: Santa on 2013/07/09, 10:47:50
A fix for this is being built. Please don't mix kdenext with random packages from experimental, it's just asking for problems.
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: hendrikL on 2013/07/09, 11:52:05
hi,

Quote from: "Santa"
A fix for this is being built. Please don't mix kdenext with random packages from experimental, it's just asking for problems.

ACK

Please do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -d switch to init 3 and make a apt-get dist-upgrade.

Fixed packages are pulled and working fine for me. thx santa for your work.

greetings hendrikL
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: GoinEasy9 on 2013/07/10, 04:44:07
Ah, so I wasn't the only one.  Thank you all for the response.

Thank You Santa, for recognizing and working on a fix.
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: Santa on 2013/07/11, 18:54:02
Quote from: "GoinEasy9"
Ah, so I wasn't the only one.  Thank you all for the response.

Thank You Santa, for recognizing and working on a fix.


Indeed you weren't the only one, but went under the radar because the problem appeared after an (apparently harmless) virtuoso upgrade, not in the initial kde 4.10.5 upgrade; in fact I realized because of your post. Thanks!

More news - KDE SC 4.10.5 is now being uploaded to sid by Debian. I recommend you very much to use (or keep using) kdenext to avoid breakages.
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: DeepDayze on 2013/07/11, 19:47:24
KDE SC 4.10.5 installed and working fine here...thanks Santa for the fix and the update.

After KDE 4.10.5 packages are fully uploaded to unstable in the coming days, should we then disable kdenext?
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: GoinEasy9 on 2013/07/11, 22:01:32
Confirmed.  After dist-upgrade no more errors.  Thanks again, Santa.
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: DeepDayze on 2013/07/11, 23:46:01
Only thing I discovered is Digikam camera import does not work. Camera is a Kodak Easyshare c1505 which is detected properly but the import option does nothing.
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: Santa on 2013/07/12, 00:33:25
Quote from: "DeepDayze"
After KDE 4.10.5 packages are fully uploaded to unstable in the coming days, should we then disable kdenext?


No, you shouldn't, there are still few issues in the debian packages so a few packages have a higher version than the debian version, also there is some extra stuff like kio-mtp and kscreen, not packaged in debian. Also kdepim is being kept at 4.4.11 and is just optional to install the newer 4.10.x using kdenext/kdepim-ng. Once the newer kdepim is tested enough and we get our isos ready for that, we will move on to the new version.

And in any case in one month or so the kde 4.11.0 is going to be released, so perhaps would be available in kdenext.
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: DeepDayze on 2013/07/12, 02:43:52
Alright thanks Santa
Title: KDE SC 4.10.5 core packages available in kdenext/unstable
Post by: GoinEasy9 on 2013/07/12, 04:35:24
Last time I looked, I couldn't find kio-mtp.  Thanks for including it.  Installing and using it gets me an option to open it up in Dolphin, but, like Fedora and openSUSE I get the "Your phone needs to be rooted" error.  But, unlike the others, I can't get Digikam to download the pictures in siduction.  It may be that they're on Digikam 3.2 and we're still using 3.1, or, more likely, I'm still missing something in the setup.  I tried mtp and ptp with Digikam.

kio-mtp hasn't been touched since March.  I guess the recent Google changes haven't been dealt with yet.

Or it might mean that libmtp needs some love.