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Offline vilde

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #60 on: 2018/06/16, 09:41:12 »
Even with nouveau I still cannot run with 1.20. Just did a dist-upgrade and had to go back again to 1.19.6:

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inxi -F -y144
System:    Host: dell Kernel: 4.17.1-towo.4-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: LXQT 0.13.0
           Distro: siduction 18.3.0 Patience - lxqt - (201805132142)
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Studio XPS 8100 v: N/A serial: <root required>
           Mobo: Dell model: 0T568R v: A00 serial: <root required> BIOS: Dell v: A05 date: 07/08/2010
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7 860 bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 8192 KiB
           Speed: 2793 MHz min/max: 1200/2800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2793 2: 2793 3: 2793 4: 2793 5: 2793 6: 2793 7: 2793 8: 2793
Graphics:  Card-1: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce GTS 240] driver: nouveau v: kernel
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,nv,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
           OpenGL: renderer: NV92 v: 3.3 Mesa 18.1.1
I was just wondering if I was alone with this, but it seams like you have the same problem as I do svx-biker.

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #61 on: 2018/06/18, 15:21:34 »
Here the issue is almost vanished, BUT rarely KDE plasmashell has a problem; all icons become illegible like a broken lcd monitor; the system still works without problem..

For restore plasmashell, I can type in a terminal: kquitapp5 plasmashell && kstart plasmashell

Someone else here has the same problem?
For me I have issues on the bar under the window, seems that is not rendered. I am doing a full dist-upgrade since a week and see if I have still problems.Before the last udpates I had to reinstall the previous version because in my case restart plasmashell is not enough to fix.

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #62 on: 2018/06/18, 15:59:52 »
Nope I updated everything but I still to install the old package of xserver to get everything working.

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #63 on: 2018/06/24, 20:34:11 »
Please, can someone tell what this is about?

This problem has existed an unusual long time without being fixed. Some people have problem with kde and plasma, some as I  understand has problem with older nvidia graphic cards.

As all who have problem can fix i temporarily with an older xserver is it the same thing that need to be fixed, ie xserver or is more things like nouveau drivers?

If it not will be fixed for my computer with older nvidia card maybe I shall install something else on that because this is the family's main media center for music and tv in our house and I want no problem with that.

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #64 on: 2018/06/24, 20:55:19 »
In my case with nvidia proprietary driver that are not legacy.PRobably the new version implemented a new api or deprecated something that is used on other tools.

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #65 on: 2018/06/24, 21:14:49 »
Its dead easy - the 340.107 will be packed somewhen - or not. 304 is EOLed and will not support 1.20

Btw - we talk about vendor suppor for a nine year old graphic card. Just wait for the fixed 340 or try nouveau. Or buy new hardware. Or just use X 1.19 - it's up to you.
« Last Edit: 2018/06/24, 21:18:10 by melmarker »
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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #66 on: 2018/06/24, 23:01:18 »
Its dead easy - the 340.107 will be packed somewhen - or not. 304 is EOLed and will not support 1.20

Btw - we talk about vendor suppor for a nine year old graphic card. Just wait for the fixed 340 or try nouveau. Or buy new hardware. Or just use X 1.19 - it's up to you.
Thanks melmarker

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Graphics:
  Card-1: NVIDIA GT218M [NVS 3100M] driver: nouveau v: kernel
  bus ID: 01:00.0
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting
  unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,nv,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~50Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: NVA8 v: 3.3 Mesa 18.1.2 direct render: Yes

If I understand right from above I am already using nouveau, that means that that is not working either with the new xserver.If so, then I shall wait for new nouveau or the 340 driver, ok? And that will come or maybe not?
Going on with old xserver makes it a mess to use apt.
Buy new hardware is not an obtion , better to use some other dist then.

I wait for a while....


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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #67 on: 2018/06/24, 23:50:58 »
it does not mess up apt - you just have to downgrade all needed packages and pin them afterwards.
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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #68 on: 2018/06/25, 09:38:44 »
it does not mess up apt - you just have to downgrade all needed packages and pin them afterwards.
OK, I will try that, thanks
Edit: Done!
« Last Edit: 2018/06/25, 11:18:48 by vilde »

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #69 on: 2018/06/28, 19:03:22 »
Today i risk upgrade xserver* 1.20.0-2 & nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver (340.107-1) and i won.

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inxi -G
Graphics:
  Card-1: NVIDIA G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] driver: nvidia v: 340.107
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.0 driver: nvidia
  resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: GeForce 9600 GT/PCIe/SSE2 v: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.107

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #70 on: 2018/07/09, 21:23:45 »
I too have problems after the update.
I have a 3 display set-up where the side displays are in portrait mode. After the update the side displays remain black. When I drag a window from the center display to one of the side ones the window disappears but the mouse-pointer is visible.
After a fresh install I found out that the side displays turn to black when I in display settings change them from landscape to portrait mode.
Weird isn´t it?

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jan@Z170:~$ inxi -Gx
Graphics:
  Card-1: Intel HD Graphics 530 driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.0 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
  resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz, 1280x1024~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.1.3
  direct render: Yes

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #71 on: 2018/07/09, 22:02:17 »
What desktop is that?

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #72 on: 2018/07/09, 22:38:16 »
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jan@Z170:~$ inxi -Fxxx
System:
  Host: Z170 Kernel: 4.17.5-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
  v: 7.3.0 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.13.2 tk: Qt 5.10.1 dm: sddm
  Distro: siduction 18.3.0 Patience - kde - (201805132121)
  base: Debian GNU/Linux buster/sid
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Z170 PRO GAMING v: Rev X.0x
  serial: <root required> UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 3805
  date: 05/16/2018
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-6500 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Skylake-S
  rev: 3 L2 cache: 6144 KiB
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 25536
  Speed: 801 MHz min/max: 800/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 801
  4: 800
Graphics:
  Card-1: Intel HD Graphics 530 driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
  chip ID: 8086:1912
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.0 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
  resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz, 1280x1024~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.1.3
  compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Card-1: Intel Sunrise Point-H HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
  bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:a170
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.17.5-towo.1-siduction-amd64
Network:
  Card-1: Intel Ethernet Connection I219-V driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: N/A
  bus ID: 00:1f.6 chip ID: 8086:15b8
  IF: enp0s31f6 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 70:4d:7b:64:57:ec
Drives:
  HDD Total Size: 4.09 TiB used: 7.11 GiB (0.2%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB
  speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: S466NB0K612218R rev: 1B2QEXE7 scheme: MBR
  ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM003-1CH162 size: 931.51 GiB
  speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: S1D6190D rev: CC44
  ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM003-1SB102 size: 931.51 GiB
  speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: Z9A4GMJN rev: CC43
  ID-4: /dev/sdc vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM003-1SB102 size: 931.51 GiB
  speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: Z9A6RAEQ rev: CC43 scheme: MBR
  ID-5: /dev/sdd vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM003-1SB102 size: 931.51 GiB
  speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: Z9A6RA2B rev: CC43 scheme: MBR
RAID:
  Hardware-1: Intel SATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci v: 3.0 port: f060
  bus ID: 00:17.0 chip ID: 8086.2822 rev: 31
  Supported md-raid types: raid1 linear multipath raid0 raid6 raid5 raid4 raid10
  Device-1: md126 type: mdraid status: active Components: online: sda~c1 sdb~c0
  Info: raid: mirror blocks: 976759808 report: 2/2 UU chunk size: N/A
  Device-2: md127 type: mdraid status: inactive Components: online: N/A
  spare: sdb~c0
  Info: raid: sda[1](S) blocks: 5296 report: N/A chunk size: N/A
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 47.81 GiB used: 6.95 GiB (14.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
  ID-2: /home size: 409.39 GiB used: 160.1 MiB (0.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
Info:
  Processes: 182 Uptime: 1m Memory: 15.54 GiB used: 557.6 MiB (3.5%) Init: systemd
  v: 239 runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 7.3.0 alt: 7 Shell: bash v: 4.4.23
  running in: konsole inxi: 3.0.15

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #73 on: 2018/07/10, 16:13:46 »
Hi Devil,
Today I installed a fresh copy of the xfce image, did an update and dist-upgrade to check if the problem was in the desktop type (kde). The same problem with the side displays .... black, but mouse-pointer is visible.
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jan@Z170:~$ inxi -SG
System:
  Host: Z170 Kernel: 4.17.5-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: Xfce 4.12.4 Distro: siduction 18.3.0 Patience - xfce - (201805132203)
Graphics:
  Card-1: Intel HD Graphics 530 driver: i915 v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.0 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
  resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz, 1280x1024~60Hz, 1280x1024~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.1.3

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Re: Watch for a problem with xserver-xorg
« Reply #74 on: 2018/07/11, 07:31:16 »
You could install the intel driver instead of using modesetting to see if that fixes it.