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Siduction Forum => Upgrade Warnings => Topic started by: melmarker on 2017/12/04, 23:48:46
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That means - do yourself a favour and don't do dist-upgrades for the next two days.
Füsse stillhalten, das ist in 2 Tagen durch.
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Thanks for the heads up, melmarker.
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Heh -- too late for me! ::)
But, no serious damage. The "Leave" (or whatever it is) item on the menu is now a plain white square with no icon in it. But when clicked, it still offers the same sub-menu of exiting or shutting down options. Everything seems to be working as expected, just some graphics/visual stuff has changed.
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The reason for that warning was:
https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-libqtxdg.html
hell, the transiton started as soon as i uploaded qtxdg and build-tools - and all leaf packages start to rebuild. To be true, we never have tested this case upstream nor we had any interests to do so - seems to work without major breakages - but from an upstream point of view the whole repository is in an inconsistent state until the last part of the release is finished :D
Edit: One might notice that the panel and the runner are still on 0.11.1 - dunno which mix was uploaded to the mirrors within the transition.
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2 lxqt packages would be removed.
# apt-get dist-upgrade
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig
Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet... Fertig
Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt:
libcdio16 ssft
Verwenden Sie »apt autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen.
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
lxqt-common patience-lxqt-artwork
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
libbind9-160 libcdio17 libdns-export169 libdns169 libisc-export166 libisc166 libisccc160 libisccfg160 liblwres160 libntfs-3g88 libpcre2-16-0 libpoppler72 libqt5xdg3 libqt5xdgiconloader3
linux-compiler-gcc-7-x86 linux-headers-4.14.0-1-686-pae linux-headers-4.14.0-1-common linux-kbuild-4.14 lxqt-system-theme lxqt-themes
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade):
audacious-plugins bind9-host binutils binutils-common binutils-i686-linux-gnu busybox calamares connman console-setup console-setup-linux cpio cpp-6 cpp-7 cups-browsed cups-filters cups-filters-core-drivers
curl dirmngr dmeventd dmsetup dnsutils firefox fonts-linuxlibertine fonts-opensymbol gcc-6 gcc-6-base gcc-7 gcc-7-base gdisk gir1.2-gtk-3.0 git git-man gnome-accessibility-themes gnome-themes-standard
gnome-themes-standard-data gnupg gnupg-l10n gnupg-utils gnupg2 gparted gpg gpg-agent gpg-wks-client gpg-wks-server gpgconf gpgsm gpgv gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly gtk-update-icon-cache gtk2-engines
gtk2-engines-pixbuf guile-2.0-libs gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-bin gvfs-daemons gvfs-fuse gvfs-libs ibverbs-providers inkscape isc-dhcp-client isc-dhcp-common keyboard-configuration less libasan3 libasan4
libassuan0 libatomic1 libbinutils libbluray2 libbrlapi0.6 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc-l10n libc6 libc6-dev libcanberra-gstreamer libcanberra-pulse libcanberra0 libcc1-0 libcdio-cdda2 libcdio-paranoia2
libcilkrts5 libcpupower1 libcupsfilters1 libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls libdb5.3 libdevmapper-event1.02.1 libdevmapper1.02.1 libfabric1 libfftw3-bin libfftw3-double3 libfftw3-long3 libfftw3-quad3 libfftw3-single3
libfm-qt-l10n libfm-qt3 libfontembed1 libgail-common libgail18 libgcc-6-dev libgcc-7-dev libgcc1 libgdal20 libgdcm2.8 libgeos-3.5.1 libgeos-c1v5 libgfortran4 libgomp1 libgpgme11 libgpgmepp6 libgssdp-1.0-3
libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin libgtk-3-common libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libgupnp-1.0-4 libharfbuzz-icu0 libharfbuzz0b libibverbs1 libinput-bin libinput-tools libinput10 libitm1 libjim0.77
libjpeg-turbo-progs libjpeg62-turbo liblouisutdml-bin liblouisutdml-data liblouisutdml7 liblvm2app2.2 liblvm2cmd2.02 liblxqt-globalkeys-ui0 liblxqt-globalkeys0 liblxqt-l10n liblxqt0 libmbim-glib4
libmbim-proxy libmpg123-0 libmpx2 libnghttp2-14 libnspr4 libpcre2-8-0 libpcre3 libperl5.26 libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler-qt5-1 libpsl5 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libpulsedsp libpython2.7
libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib libpython3.6 libpython3.6-minimal libpython3.6-stdlib libqhull7 libqt5concurrent5 libqt5core5a libqt5dbus5 libqt5designer5 libqt5gui5 libqt5help5 libqt5network5
libqt5opengl5 libqt5positioning5 libqt5printsupport5 libqt5script5 libqt5sql5 libqt5sql5-sqlite libqt5svg5 libqt5test5 libqt5webchannel5 libqt5widgets5 libqt5xml5 libqtermwidget5-0 libquadmath0 librdmacm1
libreoffice libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gtk3
libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-librelogo libreoffice-math libreoffice-ogltrans libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-script-provider-python libreoffice-sdbc-postgresql
libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-style-tango libreoffice-writer libstdc++6 libsysstat-qt5-0 libtcl8.6 libtk8.6 libturbojpeg0 libubsan0 libunistring2 libupower-glib3 libvoikko1 libwayland-client0
libwayland-cursor0 libwayland-server0 lightning linux-cpupower linux-headers-686-pae linux-libc-dev locales lsscsi lvm2 lximage-qt lximage-qt-l10n lxqt lxqt-about lxqt-about-l10n lxqt-admin lxqt-admin-l10n
lxqt-config lxqt-config-l10n lxqt-core lxqt-globalkeys lxqt-globalkeys-l10n lxqt-notificationd lxqt-notificationd-l10n lxqt-openssh-askpass lxqt-openssh-askpass-l10n lxqt-panel lxqt-panel-l10n
lxqt-policykit lxqt-policykit-l10n lxqt-powermanagement lxqt-powermanagement-l10n lxqt-qtplugin lxqt-runner lxqt-runner-l10n lxqt-session lxqt-session-l10n lxqt-sudo lxqt-sudo-l10n mpv multiarch-support
nano ntfs-3g ocl-icd-libopencl1 ovmf pavucontrol-qt pavucontrol-qt-l10n pcmanfm-qt pcmanfm-qt-l10n perl perl-base perl-modules-5.26 poppler-utils pulseaudio pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-utils python-numpy python-pkg-resources python-pyqt5 python-pyqt5.qtsvg python-pyqt5.qtwebkit python-simplejson python2.7 python2.7-minimal
python3-pkg-resources python3-uno python3.6 python3.6-minimal qt5-gtk-platformtheme qt5-image-formats-plugins qterminal qterminal-l10n qtermwidget5-data reiserfsprogs screengrab smplayer smplayer-l10n
tcl8.6 testdisk thunderbird tk8.6 uno-libs3 upower ure wpasupplicant zim
300 aktualisiert, 20 neu installiert, 2 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
Es müssen 389 MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 71,5 MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
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Abbruch.
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common kann und soll weg - zum Glück. das hat viel Arbeit gemacht - patience sollte ich dann wohl mal anpassen.
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Fixed. LXQt is fully in sid too, so i set this solved.
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Thank You melmarker
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Must just be just me then, upgraded yesterday now I have no icons in PCmanfm qt. This has happened before some time ago during one of the many qt transitions and I went back to PCmanfm for a couple of months. Then it was possible to change the icon set and get a working file manager but it did not survive a reboot, not this time. Icons for folders do not show although thumbnails do.
I have Lxqt installed but use i3 mostly and had a review and trial run of a few the current file managers as it is an application I use a lot and the big surprise was SpaceFM what an improvement since I last looked some time ago, I think this will be my default for the time being. Unfortunately not a natural choice for LXQT as it is not QT5.
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https://github.com/IgnorantGuru/spacefm - one could consider this project dead. But hey, your choice.
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Am I the only one with this no icon problem ?
Regarding SpaceFM the rolling version is not so old https://code.launchpad.net/~mati75/+archive/ubuntu/spacefm-unstable
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Am I the only one with this no icon problem ?
Regarding SpaceFM the rolling version is not so old https://code.launchpad.net/~mati75/+archive/ubuntu/spacefm-unstable
Really ...
Edit: https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2015/02/17/updated-info-on-spacefm/
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Melmarker, I am not sure what point you are trying to make, I appreciate the work you do with LXQT and Nomacs. You said it was safe to upgrade LXQT which I did only to find it had broken PCman. I have asked twice am I the only one with this problem, no reply so far. I also commented I had found a temporary replacement file manager, you don't respond to the bug in PCman but to tell me Spacefm is not maintained. To be honest I am not bothered at least it works.
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You said it was safe to upgrade LXQT which I did only to find it had broken PCman. I have asked twice am I the only one with this problem, no reply so far.
The point is: YOU broke your installation. With all my three hats on i can't see here any problem: siduction, debian maintainer and LXQt upstream. If we could aggree that this is the most likely case there are a few things possible: partial upgrade aka libqt5xdg2 still in place, no current lxqt-qtplugin, no lxqt-session with current lxqt-qtplugin etc - it might be all possible and it is nothing we can fix or are interested in. BTW: Only out of curiosity i took an old siduction image, installed it, installed i3, purged xfwm4, restarted and have done a full upgrade. Result see below:
(https://i.imgur.com/U8MI7L3.png)
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Thanks for investigating and answering my question, is it just my installation with this problem ? looks that way. No idea why, it has been running daily for years without a problem up to the last upgrade. I have now completely purged LXQT and only reinstalled PCmanFM-qt none of the apps you mentioned are installed libqt5xdg2, lxqt-qtplugin, or lxqt-session. PCmanFM-qt now has icons and looks fine apart from the folders and files are listed horizontally not vertically is this a bug or a feature, I prefer the normal vertical listing but cant find any settings to change it, a Google has not turned up anything either.
thanks for your help.
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@titan: it seems you lack the basic understanding what LXQt is and how it works - no problem, the informations are well hidden :) So i will try to bring a little bit more light into: the very basic lib is libqtxdg - currently in version libqt5xdg3 3.1.0, built on that is libfm-qt3 (0.12.0) and liblxqt0 (0.12.0) - all other compontents are more or less based on these three libs. Next very important parts of LXQt are the lxqt-session and lxqt-qtplugin. First is the integrational part that deliver the session, set the used platform and start basic services. Second is a kind of glue that provide the session settings to the applications if a lxqt session is running.
And exactly there seems to be a problem, all of these components need to build against the same qtxdg and liblxqt. One can check that - if no session is present one can set the pcmanfm-qt icon theme directly in pcmanfm-qt - with a valid session running these settings are hidden.
Best bet to solve your issues is just to remove libqt5xdg* and libqt5xdgiconloader* - that will take all other LXQt components with it. After that an simple "apt install task-lxqt-desktop" will install a full LXQt with all bells and whistles - if not done yet i would suggest to remove /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/80siduction or change it to install recommends. One can purge not needed packages afterwards.
Edit: forget to mention that LXQt is strictly indipendent from any Window Manager - so on can chose every WM one like. That will work fine in theory, there might be some issues with keybindings and the way different WMs handle background applications - keybindings are handled for LXQt in lxqt-globalkeysd, so if the WM take some bindings that globalkeysd want, one should solve that in one of the settings. Second: i3 seems to mess up the classic desktop layer - so it migth be better that there is no pcmanfm-qt --desktop process running.
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Not siduction, but Debian testing derivative Sparky. I and others got the blue screen. I did
apt remove libqt5xdg* libqt5xdgiconloader* followed by
apt install task-lxqt-desktop
I selected sddm (had been lightdm)
Nonresponsive menu ond other problems still present. I am going to wait on finding solutions, time might heal. I will lurk on freenode #lxde and OFTC #debian-lxqt
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Some packages just migrate to testing - but creating blue screens - ok, never mind.
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Time did heal for the migration to testing. My 3 y.o. lxqt continues in testing. peace out.