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Title: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: Lanzi on 2019/11/24, 14:45:17
We still stick since before the freeze with plasma 5.14.

Does anybody has a clear view into the future in his glass ball, or maybe heard/read anything concering debian/Sid
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: devil on 2019/11/24, 22:13:37
It will not be too long. My uneducated guess is it will happen this year. Debian is busy with quite a few things that also touch Plasma like getting rid of the remnants of Qt4 and the removal of everything related to python 2.
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: piper on 2019/11/26, 14:43:47
It will not be too long. My uneducated guess is it will happen this year. Debian is busy with quite a few things that also touch Plasma like getting rid of the remnants of Qt4 and the removal of everything related to python 2.

+1
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: Lanzi on 2019/11/26, 22:27:46
Thanks!
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: slaughterer on 2019/12/02, 08:28:24
Your wish has just been granted!!!
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: hendrikL on 2019/12/02, 18:13:46
At least "kontact 19.08.3-1"
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: melmarker on 2019/12/02, 19:08:51
erm - this has nothing to do with plasma :D - but ok, my guess is that a new plasma will come soon if the bigger tasks are ironed out. And to be honest: I don't see much right now what will be extremly better with a new plasma - it just works fine for me if i'm forced to use it :D
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: devil on 2019/12/02, 19:53:26
Erm, people who are not forced to use it, for sure see that differently :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: hendrikL on 2019/12/02, 21:49:10
@devil

ACK  8)
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: Lanzi on 2019/12/03, 18:50:50
Sure, it will not be much better... but the newer ones have some improvements.
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: samoht on 2019/12/03, 21:15:16
@devil: +1

Why?

Sufficient to follow Nate Grahams excellent reports:

https://pointieststick.com/ (https://pointieststick.com/)

Greetings,
Tom
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: sunrat on 2019/12/04, 00:11:28
Sufficient to follow Nate Grahams excellent reports:
https://pointieststick.com/ (https://pointieststick.com/)
It's interesting that quite a lot of the work in KDE now seems to be feature enhancements and rectifying what I consider quirks rather than serious bugs. I am really happy with KDE/Plasma 5.14 and it is by far my preferred DE.
By contrast I have MX Linux installed and have been following its development for some time and there are some serious annoying behaviours which I consider bugs, most of which are probably due to the state of Xfce DE rather than MX itself. Thunar is terrible compared to Dolphin, Konsole is way better than XFTerminal, and Kate/Kwrite are best of breed. Other DEs I haven't checked out for a while although I'm most interested in LXQt.

I saw a lot of KF5 libs being upgraded in D-U this week, Plasma may soon follow.
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: piper on 2019/12/05, 16:00:16
@devil  @sunrat

+1 well said
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: Mte90 on 2020/01/02, 11:51:29
I didn't saw this thread and asked on reddit, I got more information there then on reddit  ::) https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/ei37qa/any_plans_to_update_kde_to_latest_versions/
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: Mte90 on 2020/01/20, 10:21:29
Just another update from reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/eqzhfh/kde_plasma_517_is_on_the_way_into_debian/
New plasma is in the experimental branch, someone says that updating didn't created issues but is better to wait :-)
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: sunrat on 2020/01/20, 13:52:17
Just browsed through https://pointieststick.com/ and there are some very cool features coming in Plasma 5.18.
GTK apps will now be configured to automatically follow KDE theme settings. Yay! This was sometimes a real PITA.
Multiple terminals open in one Konsole window a la tmux.
System Tray applet for controlling the Night color feature. This looks like it can natively replace Redshift which I currently use.
Rename files from the context menu in the open/save dialogs. Nice. I believe this is an old lost feature now returning.
Now if only Elisa would implement ReplayGain I could be tempted to use it as no.1 music player. It's shaping up very nicely otherwise.
Plasma 5.18 has just been released as beta and hopefully it appears in Sid quickly. It is the new LTS release.
https://kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.17.90.php
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: devil on 2020/01/21, 14:51:28
Official announcement:
Plasma 5.17.5 hit experimental: https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2020/01/msg00030.html
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: Lanzi on 2020/01/21, 17:48:37
Excellent.
i would prefer to wait some more weeks and go to 5.18 instead of 5.17 and wait another 2 years... but lets see, what happens.
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: melmarker on 2020/01/21, 19:01:36
There is a Distribution called ArchLinux - nuff said :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: devil on 2020/01/21, 21:05:35
There is also KDE Neon and KaOS, which offer the latest Plasma right when it is released or even before (in the case of KDE Neon).
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: Lanzi on 2020/01/24, 19:30:01
@Devil: Can we use KDE Neon in SId/ Siduction? Is This possible or is it strictly connected to Kubuntu?
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: devil on 2020/01/24, 20:55:35
KDE Neon is a distribution by itself, even though it does not want to be called that.
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: melmarker on 2020/01/24, 22:22:59
@lanzi - and packagingwise there is no common nominator to debian packaging - the only thing i'm citizize in Neon. Neon was the chance to unify debian and ubuntu KDE packaging - only one guy ... nuf said. Not my friend
Title: Re: Does anyone know if we "ever" get a new plasma?
Post by: Lanzi on 2020/01/25, 01:02:21
I remember the split...
It is how it is... so lets hope for better support in the future.