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Title: ifupdown orphaned in debian
Post by: melmarker on 2015/06/01, 23:44:56
after the latest problems with ifupdown i take a closer look at the debian bugtracker and found this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786902

For me that sounds like ifupdown will not be in the next siduction release anymore - one is free to use it as long it works, but i think the glory days of ifupdown are over.
Title: Re: ifupdown orphaned in debian
Post by: DeepDayze on 2015/06/02, 01:44:28
Not so fast :)

Seems a couple devs will be collaborating on it so looks like ifupdown could well be morphed into ifupdown2. So it looks like ifupdown will live on in some form as it is useful on the systems that do not use systemd as an init system.
Title: Re: ifupdown orphaned in debian
Post by: devil on 2015/06/02, 08:19:46
This collaboration will probably be done in Devuan. I am not yet sure, if that fork is going anywhere.


greetz
devil
Title: Re: ifupdown orphaned in debian
Post by: seasons on 2015/06/02, 15:59:54
Ugh, I really need to memorize more systemd syntax. Hopefully, the new systemd equivalent is as intuitive/easy as:
Code: [Select]
ifup eth0
ifdown eth0
Title: Re: ifupdown orphaned in debian
Post by: DeepDayze on 2015/06/03, 17:52:09
This collaboration will probably be done in Devuan. I am not yet sure, if that fork is going anywhere.


greetz
devil

Will then siduction ever collaborate with the devuan team in certain cases?
Title: Re: ifupdown orphaned in debian
Post by: devil on 2015/06/03, 17:57:12
What could such a case be? Devuan and the rest of Debian will drift apart more and more over time (if Devuan ever really materializes and then outlives it's first release by a year)


greetz
devil
Title: Re: ifupdown orphaned in debian
Post by: DeepDayze on 2015/06/03, 18:03:47
@Devil, like in cases where event mainline Debian were to ever orphan some important package while Devuan picks it up.
Title: Re: ifupdown orphaned in debian
Post by: devil on 2015/06/03, 18:09:35
That will mostly be 'dead horses' that we do not really like to ride.


Devuan despises Debian and does not trust it, the majority of its developers and its community. So same will go for siduction. I have been sitting in their channels since they opened and have been called a troll at least 50 times, probably more. That NEVER happened to me in any other channel. So no, I do not think there will be much collaboration.


greetz
devil


Title: Re: ifupdown orphaned in debian
Post by: DeepDayze on 2015/06/03, 18:17:56
OK gotcha Devil
Title: New maintainer for ifupdown in debian
Post by: musca on 2015/06/09, 08:57:38
Hello,

a new version of ifupdown has been uploaded by Guus Sliepen:

* Adopting this package from Andrew Shadura. Closes: #786902

greetings
musca
Title: Re: ifupdown orphaned in debian
Post by: KrunchTime on 2015/06/24, 08:28:27
I have been sitting in their channels since they opened and have been called a troll at least 50 times, probably more. That NEVER happened to me in any other channel. So no, I do not think there will be much collaboration.


greetz
devil
devil the troll...LOL  ;D