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[NochEinNeuer]

Hallo,
beim apt dist-upgrade erhalte ich heute folgendes:

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Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt:
  apache2-bin bamfdaemon caja-admin caja-eiciel caja-extensions-common
  caja-image-converter caja-open-terminal caja-rename caja-seahorse
  caja-sendto caja-wallpaper enchant eom eom-common ffmpegthumbnailer
  fonts-cantarell geoclue-2.0 gir1.2-appindicator3-0.1 gir1.2-bamf-3
  gir1.2-caja-2.0 gir1.2-eom-1.0 gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0
  gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0 gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 gir1.2-matedesktop-2.0
  gir1.2-matepanelapplet-4.0 gir1.2-nm-1.0 gir1.2-pluma-1.0 gir1.2-rb-3.0
  gir1.2-secret-1 gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 gir1.2-wnck-3.0 gnome-system-tools
  gtk2-engines-murrine hplip-data iio-sensor-proxy libapache2-mod-dnssd
  libapr1 libaprutil1 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap libbamf3-2
  libcryptui0a libdns-export1107 libenchant1c2a libffmpegthumbnailer4v5
  libgpod-common libgpod4 libgucharmap-2-90-7 libisc-export1104 libldb2
  libmate-sensors-applet-plugin0 libmate-slab0 libmate-window-settings1
  libmatedict6 liboobs-1-5 libqt5positioning5 libqt5script5 libqt5sensors5
  libqt5webchannel5 libqt5webkit5 libsane-hpaio libsgutils2-2
  linux-headers-5.4.0-3-amd64 linux-headers-5.4.0-3-common
  linux-headers-5.5.5-towo.1-siduction-amd64 linux-image-5.4.0-3-amd64
  linux-image-5.5.5-towo.1-siduction-amd64 mate-applet-brisk-menu mate-applets
  mate-applets-common mate-backgrounds mate-control-center
  mate-control-center-common mate-dock-applet mate-icon-theme mate-media
  mate-media-common mate-menu mate-power-manager mate-power-manager-common
  mate-screensaver mate-screensaver-common mate-sensors-applet
  mate-sensors-applet-common mate-system-monitor mate-system-monitor-common
  mate-themes mate-user-share-common mate-utils mate-utils-common mozo
  phantomjs pluma pluma-common python-caja-common python3-caja
  python3-configobj python3-crypto python3-mako python3-markupsafe
  python3-pexpect python3-ptyprocess python3-renderpm python3-reportlab
  python3-reportlab-accel python3-xlib rtmpdump samba-common seahorse
  seahorse-daemon system-tools-backends youtube-dl
Verwenden Sie »apt autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen.
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  blueman gvfs-backends hplip libreoffice libreoffice-script-provider-python
  libsmbclient mate-desktop-environment mate-desktop-environment-core
  mate-desktop-environment-extras mate-user-share mpv python3-ldb
  python3-samba python3-talloc python3-tdb python3-uno rhythmbox-plugins
  samba-common-bin samba-dsdb-modules samba-libs smbclient smplayer
  smplayer-l10n smplayer-themes vlc-plugin-samba
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  libaudio2 libdirectfb-1.7-7 libenca0 libvorbisidec1 mplayer
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade):
  libgom-1.0-0 libidn2-0 libltdl-dev libltdl7 libpython3-stdlib libtool
  python3 python3-minimal python3-xlib
9 aktualisiert, 5 neu installiert, 25 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
Es müssen 5.045 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Läuft da zufällig ein größeres Update bezüglich Mate im Hintergrund?
Viele Grüße,Jürgen

[hsp]

Füße still halten, python3.8 Transitions. Das wird wohl etwas länger dauern.

https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/python3.8-default.html
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[Camelot]

beim apt dist-upgrade erhalte ich heute folgendes

apt upgrade oder apt full-upgrade? Ersteres ist momentan zu empfehlen.

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apt upgrade
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Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden:
  libpython3-stdlib libsoup2.4-1:i386 python3 python3-minimal
0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 4 nicht aktualisiert.

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apt full-upgrade
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Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt:
  hplip-data libgdata-common libgdata22 libgoa-1.0-0b libgoa-1.0-common
  libldb2 libnfs13 libqt5script5 libsane-hpaio libva-wayland2 python3-crypto
  python3-gpg python3-pyxattr python3-renderpm python3-reportlab
  python3-reportlab-accel rtmpdump samba-common youtube-dl
Verwenden Sie »apt autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen.
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  gvfs-backends hplip libreoffice-librelogo libreoffice-script-provider-python
  libsmbclient mpv python3-ldb python3-samba python3-smbc python3-talloc
  python3-tdb python3-uno samba-common-bin samba-dsdb-modules samba-libs
  smplayer smplayer-l10n smplayer-themes winbind
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  libdirectfb-1.7-7 libenca0 libvorbisidec1 mplayer python3.8
  python3.8-minimal
Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden:
  libsoup2.4-1:i386
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade):
  libpython3-stdlib python3 python3-minimal
3 aktualisiert, 6 neu installiert, 19 zu entfernen und 1 nicht aktualisiert.(Xfce)

[sunrat]

Just now:

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47 upgraded, 9 newly installed, 21 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
As usual in this situation with siduction/sid, time to wait. 

[sunrat]

d-u went successfully with no packages removed today.

Gtranslate:
d-u ist erfolgreich gelaufen, ohne dass heute Pakete entfernt wurden

[Penyelam]

Bei mir sollen 10 Pakete entfernt werden:

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Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  libreoffice libreoffice-librelogo libreoffice-script-provider-python openshot openshot-qt python3-ldb python3-openshot python3-samba python3-uno samba-common-bin

[dibl]

Libreoffice and hplip appear to have hard dependencies on python3-xxx. They will have to be updated before a safe du can be made. (if you need one of them).

[sunrat]

Libreoffice and hplip appear to have hard dependencies on python3-xxx. They will have to be updated before a safe du can be made. (if you need one of them).

That explains it. I don't have libreoffice or hplip, only libreoffice-writer, -calc, and their core/base dependencies.

[orca]

@dibl: Libreoffice and hplip appear to have hard dependencies on python3-xxx. They will have to be updated before a safe du can be made. (if you need one of them)?
I have all libreoffice suite installed, I just upgrade it, but then, when I simulate a full-upgrade, it still informs that:

The following packages will be REMOVED:
hplip hplip-gui libreoffice libreoffice-librelogo libreoffice-script-provider-python obs-studio openshot openshot-qt python3-openshot python3-uno
What should I do? Carry on the full-upgrade or wait some time??
Thanks

[Camelot]

I can’t understand your problem, try apt upgrade and not apt full-upgrade.
See apt man
https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/apt/apt.8.en.html (en)
https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/apt/apt.8.de.html (de)

apt upgrade:

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# apt upgrade
(…)
The following packages have been kept back:
  gcc-9-base:i386 hpijs-ppds hplip hplip-data libhpmud0 libpython3-stdlib
  libsane-hpaio libsoup2.4-1:i386 libtalloc2 libtdb1 printer-driver-hpcups
  printer-driver-hpijs python3 python3-minimal python3-talloc python3-tdb
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 16 not upgraded.
apt full-upgrade:

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# apt full-upgrade
(…)
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  python3-crypto python3-gpg python3-tdb samba-dsdb-modules
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libreoffice-librelogo libreoffice-script-provider-python python3-ldb
  python3-samba python3-uno samba-common-bin winbind
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  python3.8 python3.8-minimal
The following packages have been kept back:
  gcc-9-base:i386 libsoup2.4-1:i386
The following packages will be upgraded:
  hpijs-ppds hplip hplip-data libhpmud0 libpython3-stdlib libsane-hpaio
  libtalloc2 libtdb1 printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-hpijs python3
  python3-minimal python3-talloc python3-tdb
14 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 7 to remove and 2 not upgraded.

[orca]

I have already done the plain upgrade, but I would like to carry out my regular full-upgrade of the system as soon as possible. It seems, however, I will have to wait a bit, because the full-upgrade would remove my Libreoffice. This is my only concern: being patient to wait for the correct time to do the full-upgrade and not disturb any of my applications...
Cheers
 

[samoht]

@orca,

You can already full-upgrade, as usual,
if you only need the samba client, but not the samba server,
if you do not need Librelogo and the scripting framework for python,
if you do not need the winbindd daemon.
Decide for yourself.

Greetings,
Tom

[dibl]

.... because the full-upgrade would remove my Libreoffice. ....

Not -writer, -calc, -draw, -base, or -presentation.  Just the ones samoht said.

[vilde]

@orca,

You can already full-upgrade, as usual,
if you only need the samba client, but not the samba server,
if you do not need Librelogo and the scripting framework for python,
if you do not need the winbindd daemon.
Decide for yourself.

Greetings,
Tom

That's easy to say and that could always be sad no matter if it's 5, 55 or 555 packages that will be removed. The big problem with that at least for me but probably for a lot of others that I have not a clue witch of the huge amount of packages on my computer that is needed or not.
So this is sort of useless information.

What I would like to know is if this will be resolved by it self just as normal, can I just wait or do I need to do anything manually to make this to be resolved?

[samoht]

If, as indicated by @orca, only a few packages (less than ten in this case) are to be removed, it is very easy to decide whether you can do without them, perhaps even temporarily.
They can be reinstalled later anyway.
Whether that's for

5, 55 or 555 packages

to be decided, seems to me essential.