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Offline tomsiduction

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[DE] KDE-Crash ohne zwischenzeitliches Upgrade? - Solved
« on: 2019/03/07, 11:40:05 »
Hallo
Die Kde-Oberfläche wird - plötzlich - beim Start nicht mehr geladen.
Beim Start erscheint (kurz) das Hintergrundbild. Dann bleibt der Bildschirmhintergrund schwarz und die KDE-Kontrollleiste ist ebenfalls nicht mehr sichtbar.

Welches Konfig-file muss ich bitte aus dem Backup einspielen, damit KDE wieder ordnungsgemäß arbeitet?

Vielen Dank
« Last Edit: 2019/03/07, 17:04:58 by tomsiduction »

DeKa

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Re: KDE-Crash ohne zwischenzeitliches Upgrade?
« Reply #1 on: 2019/03/07, 12:03:01 »
Hallo, hast schon einen anderen Kernel ausprobiert, nicht das es ein Software seitiges Problem sein kann, auch die Hardware könnte es sein. Grafik Treiber?
Schon einen anderen Monitor angeschlossen?

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Re: KDE-Crash ohne zwischenzeitliches Upgrade?
« Reply #2 on: 2019/03/07, 12:16:23 »
Hallo und vielen Dank

Einen anderen Kernel habe ich schon ausprobiert.

Auch mit einem weiteren (neuen) Testnutzer besteht das Problem - jedoch nur mit KDE.

Daraus schließe ich, dass es nicht eine Konfigurationssache ist

Mit einem anderen Desktop klappt es.

Ich habe ein verschlüsseltes Dateisystem -

Möglicherweise ist ein KDE-File defekt

Gibt es eine Möglichkeit dass das System beim Start einen fsck auf / macht?


Beim Start von KDE  (kstart plasmashell) kommt:



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Plasma Shell startup completed
org.kde.plasmaquick: New Applet  "Digitale Uhr" with a weight of 0
org.kde.plasmaquick: New Applet  "Anwendungsmenü" with a weight of 100
org.kde.plasmaquick: New Applet  "Desktop > Aktuelles" with a weight of 0
libkcups: 3 "PDF"
libkcups: 3 "Roger-Router-Fax"
libkcups: 6
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/bin/plasmashell from kdeinit
sock_file=/run/user/1000/kdeinit5__0
KCrash: crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2
KCrash: Application Name = plasmashell path = /usr/bin pid = 3401
KCrash: Arguments: /usr/bin/plasmashell
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
sock_file=/run/user/1000/kdeinit5__0
QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 8 and type 'Read', disabling...
QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 17 and type 'Read', disabling...
QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 9 and type 'Read', disabling...






DeKa

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Re: KDE-Crash ohne zwischenzeitliches Upgrade?
« Reply #3 on: 2019/03/07, 12:21:12 »
Das hast du ja schon gut eingegrenzt.
Leider sind meine Kenntnisse mit KDE sehr begrenzt, da musst du hier auf die Profis warten.

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Re: KDE-Crash ohne zwischenzeitliches Upgrade?
« Reply #4 on: 2019/03/07, 16:17:50 »
@tomsiduction

https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=7571.msg61696#msg61696

Could I see the output of

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ldd /usr/bin/plasmashell
and

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sddm-greeter --test-mode
then

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gdb plasmashell
(gdb) bt
(gdb) set detach-on-fork off
(gdb) run


Free speech isn't just fucking saying what you want to say, it's also hearing what you don't want to fucking hear

I either give too many fucks or no fucks at all, it's like I cannot find a middle ground for a moderate fuck distribution, it's like what the fuck

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Re: KDE-Crash ohne zwischenzeitliches Upgrade?
« Reply #5 on: 2019/03/07, 16:59:47 »
Thank you very much

Your first post gave me the solution


" apt purge print-manager"


fixed the problem.

Reinstalling the print-manager will bring the problem back.

But:
Removing all unprinted tasks via
http://localhost:631/jobs

from the task-list allowed me to reinstall the "print-manager" again -- and everything kept fine.

Thank you again and have a nice day
« Last Edit: 2019/03/07, 18:14:48 by tomsiduction »

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Re: KDE-Crash ohne zwischenzeitliches Upgrade? - Solved
« Reply #6 on: 2019/03/07, 18:20:17 »
Awesome    :) :) 

The second fix would have been

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apt purge plasma-discover
That is another crap package that causes many problems and is not debian specific (for causing problems)

If you really need a gui for print manager you can try

system-config-printer (gnome package)
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Re: KDE-Crash ohne zwischenzeitliches Upgrade? - Solved
« Reply #7 on: 2019/03/07, 18:30:02 »
Quote from: tomsiduction
But:
Removing all unprinted tasks via
http://localhost:631/jobs

from the task-list allowed me to reinstall the "print-manager" again -- and everything kept fine.

Good to know and thank you  :)
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Re: KDE-Crash ohne zwischenzeitliches Upgrade? - Solved
« Reply #8 on: 2019/03/08, 02:07:55 »
@piper - system-config-printer is cool. Since i use it i had never printer problems anymore.
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Re: KDE-Crash ohne zwischenzeitliches Upgrade? - Solved
« Reply #9 on: 2019/03/08, 12:36:11 »
@melmarker -  I don't use a gui, I use http://localhost:631, but have heard good things about it and know a few people who do use it.

I think I will install it. and if ok, include it in my personal builds (kde)  ;)

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Re: KDE-Crash ohne zwischenzeitliches Upgrade? - Solved
« Reply #10 on: 2019/03/08, 17:18:09 »
I really know that system-config-printer is not linux like - it's comfty 8)
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