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Offline vilde

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[EN] Use bad laptop battery or not?
« on: 2016/06/15, 18:06:28 »
I will use an old laptop (Thinkpad x60) together with some old computer speakers as a music machine in my garage. The laptop battery will not take any charge, and I have to have the charger connected always to make the laptop work.
 
The question is shall I take out the battery or not?

The laptop works as well with the battery mounted or not mounted, my feeling is that it would be better to not have the battery mounted, maybe less heat and energy used?

What's your opinion?

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Re: Use bad laptop battery or not?
« Reply #1 on: 2016/06/15, 20:43:41 »
Betrieb ohne Akku am Netzteil Betreibt man ThinkPads ab der Generation T60/R60/X60 ohne Akku an einem 65W-Netzteil, so erreicht der Prozessor nicht seine maximale Taktfrequenz. Abhilfe schafft die Verwendung einen 90W-Netzteils oder das Einsetzen des Akkus.
Dies ist kein Fehler, sondern so gewollt: Modelle mit Intel-Grafik werden i.d.R. mit dem 65W-Netzteil ausgeliefert – ein Kompromiss zugunsten eines niedrigeren Transportgewichts.
Die betroffenen Modelle listet ein Support-Artikel von Lenovo auf (nicht gelistete jüngere Modelle sind ebenfalls betroffen).

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Without a battery pack at PSU

If one operates ThinkPads from the generation T60 / R60 / X60 without battery at a 65W power supply, so the processor does not reach its maximum operating frequency. Remedy using a 90W power supply or inserting the batteries.

This is not an error but so willed: models with Intel graphics are i.d.R. delivered with the 65W power supply - a compromise in favor of a lower transport weight.

The affected models lists a support article on Lenovo (unlisted younger models are also affected).


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Offline vilde

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Re: Use bad laptop battery or not?
« Reply #2 on: 2016/06/15, 21:29:29 »
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Google-Translate:

Without a battery pack at PSU

If one operates ThinkPads from the generation T60 / R60 / X60 without battery at a 65W power supply, so the processor does not reach its maximum operating frequency. Remedy using a 90W power supply or inserting the batteries.

This is not an error but so willed: models with Intel graphics are i.d.R. delivered with the 65W power supply - a compromise in favor of a lower transport weight.

The affected models lists a support article on Lenovo (unlisted younger models are also affected).


Quelle
Thanks, thats a new view on this thing, but if it works as I think there would be no difference between a broken battery or no battery regarding this issue about the power effect contra cpu frequency or?

I do have a 20v 65w charger but also a 20v 90w (for T410) that works also. For my use, playing music from spotify or streaming through the web browser maybe the lower cpu frequency will be enough?

I have red a lot of answers on the question if it's ok to use laptops without battery but I have not yet found an answer about using a broken battery contra no battery. Will there be less/more heat, less/more energy and so on.

Probably it doesn't matter, I'm just curious.

I will start to use the laptop in the garage tomorrow, with the 65w power supply and without battery, if I notice any lags I can always try with the 90 w power supply.

Offline ayla

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Re: Use bad laptop battery or not?
« Reply #3 on: 2016/06/16, 08:03:25 »
Hi,

I would not let a damaged or  broken battery be plugged in. One often does not know why it does not work any more, so unplug and deposit it is a save way. It's of no use any more but may still consume power and cells could overheat and catch fire as worst case.

greets
ayla

Offline vilde

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Re: Use bad laptop battery or not?
« Reply #4 on: 2016/06/16, 21:53:19 »
Hi,

I would not let a damaged or  broken battery be plugged in. One often does not know why it does not work any more, so unplug and deposit it is a save way. It's of no use any more but may still consume power and cells could overheat and catch fire as worst case.

greets
ayla
Yes ayla, I agree

KrunchTime

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Re: Use bad laptop battery or not?
« Reply #5 on: 2016/06/26, 23:09:07 »
Hi,

I would not let a damaged or  broken battery be plugged in. One often does not know why it does not work any more, so unplug and deposit it is a save way. It's of no use any more but may still consume power and cells could overheat and catch fire as worst case.

greets
ayla
Agreed