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Author Topic:  kernel i686 with pae or without ? ...danger ?  (Read 3502 times)

Offline rueX

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kernel i686 with pae or without ? ...danger ?
« on: 2014/09/19, 20:11:52 »
i had a strange update last night: usually i had the standard i686 without pae ...


this day i made inxi -F

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inxi -F
System:    Host: siductionbox Kernel: 3.16-3.towo-siduction-686-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: KDE 4.14.1
           Distro: siduction 13.2.1 December - kde - (201401272132)
Machine:   Mobo: MICRO-STAR model: MS-7327 v: 1.0 Bios: American Megatrends v: V1.6 date: 02/28/2008
CPU:       Dual core AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
           clock speeds: max: 1900 MHz 1: 1000 MHz 2: 1000 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.0.901 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1280x1024@75.02hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CEDAR GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.2.6
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.16-3.towo-siduction-686-pae
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: xx........
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (84.5% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_HD160HJ size: 160.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 11G used: 9.0G (94%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 56.5
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 176 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 291.0/3040.7MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.6


and:


update-grub
Generating grub configuration file ...
Linux-Abbild gefunden: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16-3.towo-siduction-686-pae
initrd-Abbild gefunden: /boot/initrd.img-3.16-3.towo-siduction-686-pae
Linux-Abbild gefunden: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16-3.towo-siduction-686
initrd-Abbild gefunden: /boot/initrd.img-3.16-3.towo-siduction-686




please:

which one is obsolete ?

is there a damage upcoming with one of these wrong kernel ?
« Last Edit: 2014/09/19, 20:18:53 by rueX »

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Re: kernel i686 with pae or without ? ...danger ?
« Reply #1 on: 2014/09/19, 21:28:00 »
The pae-kernel never comes per d-u without the installed metapackage.
So show
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dpkg -l | grep linux-image
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Offline rueX

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Re: kernel i686 with pae or without ? ...danger ?
« Reply #2 on: 2014/09/19, 21:32:34 »
dpkg -l | grep linux-image
ii  linux-image-3.16-2.towo.3-siduction-686      3.16-6                                i386         Linux 3.16 for modern PCs
ii  linux-image-3.16-3.towo-siduction-686        3.16-7                                i386         Linux 3.16 for modern PCs
ii  linux-image-3.16-3.towo-siduction-686-pae    3.16-7                                i386         Linux 3.16 for modern PCs with pae support



could be last night was a kernel-remover-automatic, so i installed the missing new kernel - i removed

can i delete one ? but this "pae" runs fine !


Offline michaa7

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Re: kernel i686 with pae or without ? ...danger ?
« Reply #3 on: 2014/09/24, 13:38:16 »
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can i delete one ? but this "pae" runs fine !
PAE is *not* a feature that gives you any advantage by itself. It only allows you to use more than 3GB although running a 32bit kernel (without PAE 32-bit systems are limited to roughly 3GB)

So, unless you are running such a system delete the pea-kernel. Having it installed doesn't hurt, but does help neither.
Ok, you can't code, but you still might be able to write a bug report for Debian's sake