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Offline Ze_Mind

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[EN] Hey My Fellow Sids!
« on: Yesterday at 23:46:10 »
I have been using Debian ever since Squeeze. Since then I've been going through about every "main" distro (except Gentoo or Knoppix) OpenSUSE, Fedora, Ubuntu (cough), Mint + LMDE, and have previously been on Arch. Did vanilla Arch install, but went for the others, like ArcoLinux, Endeavour, Garuda. But right now, I'm using Sparky. A distro based on Debian Test Branch.

The reason I left Arch, is because I didn't like the daily ~100 updates. And if you skip a couple days, you get a HELL lotta updates. Now Debian Testing has a lot of updates too, but as many. Is Siduction like Arch, in a way? Just not as well documented?

Enlighten me, guys. :)
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 23:49:23 by Ze_Mind »

Offline devil

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Re: Hey My Fellow Sids!
« Reply #1 on: Today at 06:27:39 »
Hi there,
with siduction you might as well have 100 updates per day, depending on the chosen desktop and/or installed packages. But that is not every day. For example, if there are updates for Plasma or LibreOffice, that already accounts for many packages. When running siduction, you should not be update-lazy and update at least once per week. Accumulating too many packages could cause clutter. Quite a few of us in the team have been running siduction productive for many years. The install I am writing from is six years old, and I bet there are much older ones around. So, if you know your Debian package management, you have a quite stable OS at your hands, despite its unstable nature. It is a good idea to check the 'Upgrade Warnings' section on the forum before doing your regular dist-upgrade.

When it comes to documentation, of course, we cannot compete with Arch. Who can? But we believe that our siduction manual is quite comprehensive as well. Of course, I am biased, but maybe siduction can stop your wandering days as a distro hopper. Just give it a try,

Offline edlin

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Re: Hey My Fellow Sids!
« Reply #2 on: Today at 10:32:18 »
I think you should make a fundamental decision:

- Do you want a distribution that receives few updates because it is based on a stable version (e.g. of Debian)? However, this will mainly only provide you with security updates and will be based on older proven package versions.

- Or would you like to take advantage of a rolling release with up-to-date packages? Then you will have to make friends with regular updates. This also applies to Siduction.

I myself have been using Debian since Potato and later only distributions based on Debian/unstable. With apt and dpkg, Debian has a tried and tested package management system that also makes it easy to manage Siduction in daily use.

I personally update daily so that the process remains manageable. This morning there were 45 packages, but most of them concerned libreoffice. Really big updates are rare and occur during transitions (Perl, switching the time format to 64 bit, ...).

I'm a bit more relaxed about the documentation. All the important things about installation, administration etc. are included in the Siduction manual. Otherwise you can find help here in the forum.

edlin
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und der Dumme weiß alles besser.

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Offline dibl

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Re: Hey My Fellow Sids!
« Reply #3 on: Today at 19:17:41 »
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The reason I left Arch, is because I didn't like the daily ~100 updates.

I love my updates!

If you dislike updates, you will dislike siduction. You don't have to update every day, but just like Arch, if you wait for a week, then you will have a bucket full of updates. It's the same problem -- the software is under active development and updated packages are continuously flowing into the repos (and then to our installed systems).

I'm a happy siduction/aptosid/sidux user for ~14 years, desktops and laptops and notebooks. I use qemu/KVM, LibreOffice, gimp, wire, and browsers, mostly. Proprietary graphics and open graphics. It's all good.
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