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Title: Nvidia installation
Post by: GoinEasy9 on 2018/03/06, 00:05:05: It's been years since I installed the Nvidia driver on siduction. I have not had a problem with Mesa and up to now have been satisfied with it.

Question is: Are the manual directions ( https://manual.siduction.org/gpu#nvidia (https://manual.siduction.org/gpu#nvidia) ) still correct? Or have they been modified/simplified since then?

It seems that this older AMD processor and the Mesa graphics are causing the login screen to lock up, and, the only way around it is to use the proprietary Nvidia driver.

My machine:
System: Host: M2N-SLI Kernel: 4.15.7-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.12.2 Distro: siduction 18.1.0 Patience - kde - (201712310029)
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M2N-SLI v: 1.XX serial: N/A
BIOS: Phoenix v: ASUS M2N SLI 0802 date: 04/16/2008
CPU: Dual core AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
clock speeds: max: 2600 MHz 1: 1800 MHz 2: 1800 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G94 [GeForce 9600 GT]
Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: NV94 version: 3.3 Mesa 17.3.6

The bug wasn't present when I installed patience KDE, but appeared after the large update. I wish I kept track of the version numbers of Mesa along the way.

I know there are others who are having problems with this bug, I filed an addendum to an openSUSE Bugzilla asking the kernel folks to look into it, without response. Anyone else have their login screen lock up after hitting enter?
Title: Re: Nvidia installation
Post by: piper on 2018/03/06, 08:28:45: I have seen the "lock up" before, but, not recently.

When I install siduction or debian sid (I use both, 99.9% siduction) I usually don't install the nvidia drivers right away, just to make sure there are no lockups.

My private builds sometimes include the nvidia driver, depends what mood i'm in :)

I usually install nvidia from experimental on debian or extra experimental on siduction

xorg.conf is obsolete and not needed (there are a few cases one should have one)

If this is an older install or one that had nvidia installed before, I would install like

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apt --no-install-recommends --autoremove purge $(dpkg -l | grep -v 'un ' | grep nvidia | awk '{ print $2 }') && rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
It doesn't hurt to reboot, users choice :P

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apt install nvidia-driver -t experimental
That should pull in what you need.
Title: Re: Nvidia installation
Post by: towo on 2018/03/06, 08:48:19: Geforce 9xxx cards are not supported by the current driver, so nvidia-driver is the wrong package.
Those cards needs the 340 legacy branch of the driver.
Title: Re: Nvidia installation
Post by: piper on 2018/03/06, 09:00:25: Quote from: towo
Geforce 9xxx cards are not supported by the current driver, so nvidia-driver is the wrong package.
Those cards needs the 340 legacy branch of the driver.

Of course you are correct, and my mistake, and I knew this as I was looking at my nvidia installer script as I posted, but failed to mention the 340 legacy branch, Thank You .

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4) echo "" echo -e "\x1B[31m simulate installing nvidia legacy-340xx \x1B[0m" apt update; apt install -s xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx echo "" echo -e "\033[34m \e[0m \033[31msimulate nvidia install legacy-340xx" exit ;;
Which should pull in (reminder I have multiarch installed, YMMV)

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The following additional packages will be installed: libegl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx libegl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 libgl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx-glx libgl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx-glx:i386 libgles1-nvidia-legacy-340xx libgles1-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 libgles2-nvidia-legacy-340xx libgles2-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 libnvidia-legacy-340xx-cfg1 libnvidia-legacy-340xx-cfg1:i386 libnvidia-legacy-340xx-eglcore libnvidia-legacy-340xx-eglcore:i386 libnvidia-legacy-340xx-glcore libnvidia-legacy-340xx-glcore:i386 libnvidia-legacy-340xx-ml1 nvidia-legacy-340xx-alternative nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-bin nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs:i386 nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs-i386:i386 nvidia-legacy-340xx-kernel-dkms nvidia-legacy-340xx-kernel-support nvidia-legacy-340xx-vdpau-driver nvidia-settings-legacy-340xx The following NEW packages will be installed: libegl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx libegl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 libgl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx-glx libgl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx-glx:i386 libgles1-nvidia-legacy-340xx libgles1-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 libgles2-nvidia-legacy-340xx libgles2-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 libnvidia-legacy-340xx-cfg1 libnvidia-legacy-340xx-cfg1:i386 libnvidia-legacy-340xx-eglcore libnvidia-legacy-340xx-eglcore:i386 libnvidia-legacy-340xx-glcore libnvidia-legacy-340xx-glcore:i386 libnvidia-legacy-340xx-ml1 nvidia-legacy-340xx-alternative nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-bin nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs:i386 nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs-i386:i386 nvidia-legacy-340xx-kernel-dkms nvidia-legacy-340xx-kernel-support nvidia-legacy-340xx-vdpau-driver nvidia-settings-legacy-340xx xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx 0 upgraded, 26 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Inst nvidia-legacy-340xx-alternative (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst libnvidia-legacy-340xx-glcore (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst libgl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx-glx (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst libnvidia-legacy-340xx-glcore:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Inst libgl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx-glx:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Inst libnvidia-legacy-340xx-eglcore (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst libegl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst libnvidia-legacy-340xx-ml1 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-bin (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst nvidia-legacy-340xx-vdpau-driver (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst nvidia-legacy-340xx-kernel-support (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst nvidia-legacy-340xx-kernel-dkms (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst nvidia-settings-legacy-340xx (340.104-1 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst libnvidia-legacy-340xx-eglcore:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Inst libegl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Inst libgles1-nvidia-legacy-340xx (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst libgles1-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Inst libgles2-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Inst libgles2-nvidia-legacy-340xx (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst libnvidia-legacy-340xx-cfg1:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Inst libnvidia-legacy-340xx-cfg1 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Inst nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Inst nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs-i386:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Conf nvidia-legacy-340xx-alternative (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf libnvidia-legacy-340xx-glcore (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf libgl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx-glx (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf libnvidia-legacy-340xx-glcore:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Conf libgl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx-glx:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Conf libnvidia-legacy-340xx-eglcore (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf libegl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf libnvidia-legacy-340xx-ml1 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-bin (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf nvidia-legacy-340xx-vdpau-driver (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf nvidia-legacy-340xx-kernel-support (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf nvidia-legacy-340xx-kernel-dkms (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf nvidia-settings-legacy-340xx (340.104-1 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf libnvidia-legacy-340xx-eglcore:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Conf libegl1-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Conf libgles1-nvidia-legacy-340xx (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf libgles1-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Conf libgles2-nvidia-legacy-340xx:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Conf libgles2-nvidia-legacy-340xx (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf libnvidia-legacy-340xx-cfg1:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Conf libnvidia-legacy-340xx-cfg1 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [amd64]) Conf nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386]) Conf nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs-i386:i386 (340.106-2 Debian:unstable [i386])
Title: Re: Nvidia installation
Post by: GoinEasy9 on 2018/03/06, 20:39:06: Thank You piper and towo. I appreciate the help.

I almost came back to say that Mesa was working again, because last night it was. Then this morning login locked up again. This is how it started when I had Tumbleweed on the machine. Intermittent lock ups. Then as Mesa version moved from 17 to 18 the lock ups were constant.

So, I'm going to leave Mesa active on the machine and see if I can file some Bugzillas.

Question is: Do I file the bugs under Mesa or the Kernel?
Title: Re: Nvidia installation
Post by: towo on 2018/03/06, 22:03:34: Most nouveau problems are from the kernel side, aka the kernel module.
So bugs should adressed to the kernel module, or if you want fast help, without filling long bug reports, tell your problems in the #nouveau channel on the freenode irc, all nouveau devs are there.
Title: Re: Nvidia installation
Post by: GoinEasy9 on 2018/03/07, 03:01:10: Thanks towo, that information will come in handy.