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[EN] linux-3.4 rc5 for testing in our experimental repo
« on: 2012/05/05, 18:02:32 »
I have uploaded linux 3.4-rc5 for testing in our experimental repo.

If this repo is active
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apt-get install linux-image-34-siduction-$arch linux-headers-34-siduction-$arch
will install that Kernel.
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RE: linux-3.4 rc5 for testing in our experimental repo
« Reply #1 on: 2012/05/05, 18:46:31 »
@towo, please where is the location of the siduction experimental repo, bitte und vielen dank?
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« Reply #2 on: 2012/05/05, 18:55:42 »
@towo, what's wrong here?
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Vorkonfiguration der Pakete ...
Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket linux-image-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64 wird gewählt.
(Lese Datenbank ... 294568 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Entpacken von linux-image-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64 (aus .../linux-image-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64_3.4~rc5-1_amd64.deb) ...
Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket linux-headers-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64 wird gewählt.
Entpacken von linux-headers-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64 (aus .../linux-headers-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64_3.4~rc5-1_amd64.deb) ...
Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket linux-headers-34-siduction-amd64 wird gewählt.
Entpacken von linux-headers-34-siduction-amd64 (aus .../linux-headers-34-siduction-amd64_3.4~rc5-1_amd64.deb) ...
Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket linux-image-34-siduction-amd64 wird gewählt.
Entpacken von linux-image-34-siduction-amd64 (aus .../linux-image-34-siduction-amd64_3.4~rc5-1_amd64.deb) ...
linux-image-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64 (3.4~rc5-1) wird eingerichtet ...
Running depmod.
Error setting debconf substitutions in linux-image-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64/postinst/missing-firmware-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64: linux-image-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64/postinst/missing-firmware-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64 doesn't exist at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64.postinst line 602, <STDIN> line 3.
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von linux-image-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64 (--configure):
 Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 255 zurück
linux-headers-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64 (3.4~rc5-1) wird eingerichtet ...
Examining /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64
linux-headers-34-siduction-amd64 (3.4~rc5-1) wird eingerichtet ...
dpkg: Abhängigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von linux-image-34-siduction-amd64:
 linux-image-34-siduction-amd64 hängt ab von linux-image-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64 (= 3.4~rc5-1); aber:
  Paket linux-image-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64 ist noch nicht konfiguriert.
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von linux-image-34-siduction-amd64 (--configure):
 Abhängigkeitsprobleme - verbleibt unkonfiguriert
Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
 linux-image-34-3.4-rc5-siduction-amd64
 linux-image-34-siduction-amd64
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


@dibl, have a look at http://packages.siduction.org

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« Reply #3 on: 2012/05/05, 19:17:40 »
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@dibl, have a look at http://packages.siduction.org


Got it -- thank you.
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« Reply #4 on: 2012/05/05, 19:40:13 »
There was a typo in some templates, i will opload a fixed version soon.
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« Reply #5 on: 2012/05/05, 19:49:15 »
Meanwhile I have installed it and booted it on a Dell Dimension 4700. I looked at dmesg and all looks good. This CPU will not support virtualization, so no VM is possible. I anticipate there will be the usual trouble with VMware on a 3.4 kernel.

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System:    Host: siductionbox Kernel: 3.4-rc5-siduction-686 i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.7.0)
           Desktop: KDE 4.7.4 (Qt 4.8.1) Distro: siduction 11.1-rc One Step Beyond - kde-lite - (201112212155)
Machine:   System: Dell product: Dimension 4700
           Mobo: Dell model: 0DH682 Bios: Dell version: A10 date: 01/04/2006
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 CPU (-UP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (nx sse sse2 sse3) bmips: 5984.99 clocked at 2992.497 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           X.Org: 1.12.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x1024@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 915G x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 8.0.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Network:   Card: Intel 82562ET/EZ/GT/GZ - PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller
           driver: e100 ver: 3.5.24-k2-NAPI port: dcc0 bus-ID: 03:08.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:11:11:c1:68:93
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 74.4GB (-) 1: WDC_WD740GD
Info:      Processes: 199 Uptime: 8 min Memory: 661.6/2016.4MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.6.3 Client: Shell inxi: 1.7.29
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« Reply #6 on: 2012/05/05, 20:42:29 »
I have uploaded (hopefully) fixed packages, please remove the older packages before installing those new version.
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« Reply #7 on: 2012/05/05, 20:59:44 »
@towo, please hold linux-3.3 kernel for a while, perhaps as a meta package:
 linux-image-old

The new Kernel linux-3.4 has:

- abi x32,
which nobody having enough RAM needs
- btrfs better performance
which nobody should use (because of heavy changes daily in the code)
- xen and other virtualization featueres
which the simple minded of the desktop users don't need
- dm features,
same as above for the simple desktop user

But actual coming linux-3.3.5
is most promising performant and stable (*) ...

(*) tested without any bfs patches, because of some bad time accounting of bfs-for-linux-3.3 observed - I dont trust that patch anymore.
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« Reply #8 on: 2012/05/05, 21:13:53 »
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- btrfs better performance
which nobody should use (because of heavy changes daily in the code)


@ralul -- question:

Is this a new enhancement to existing btrfs support, or is this the actual btrfs support in the kernel?
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« Reply #9 on: 2012/05/05, 21:19:18 »
Quote

Is this a new enhancement to existing btrfs support, or is this the actual btrfs support in the kernel?

it's an enhancement


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« Reply #10 on: 2012/05/05, 21:30:04 »
In linux-3.4 they actualy do better btrfs
- meta-data performance
  a) when to commit optimized
  b) larger chunks of bytes - less b-trees
- SuSE Jeff Mahony work for error prevention, in the sence of just stopping any more writes at the latest atomic transactions commit, when errors begin ...
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« Reply #11 on: 2012/05/05, 21:30:59 »
OK -- thanks devil.  I know there is/was a problem with VM performance on btrfs.
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« Reply #12 on: 2012/05/05, 21:37:08 »
I dont think this VM performance issue is tangled by this work yet. This issue is a much more fundamental:

What to do with a cow system on really large files when changes happen on that files ...

I cannot imaging there is a real solution of this question. Seems to me, btrfs will be the better filesystem but not any more for all purpose (as ext4).
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« Reply #13 on: 2012/05/05, 22:18:16 »
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What to do with a cow system on really large files when changes happen on that files ...



Yep -- well, my Win 7 VM is a really large file -- about 30GB.  So, I think you are right -- maybe btrfs will never be suitable for such applications.
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