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Author Topic:  [solved] I think I lost network-manager on last d-u  (Read 14806 times)

Offline vilde

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After d-u today there was no network and no network-manager running? I used ceni to connect but what happen to network-manager?

No packages where removed during d-u.

XFCE 64 bit.
« Last Edit: 2014/04/14, 12:23:58 by devil »

Offline pjnsmb

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #1 on: 2014/03/28, 14:07:40 »
If your d-u updated modemmanager I think you will find this happened :



The following packages will be REMOVED:
  network-manager network-manager-gnome


 :(



regards
pjnsmb

Offline vilde

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #2 on: 2014/03/28, 15:11:27 »
If your d-u updated modemmanager I think you will find this happened :



The following packages will be REMOVED:
  network-manager network-manager-gnome


 :(
No, as I wrote nothing was removed as I could see.

Edit: maybe I'm wrong, looks like it's gone, I will check more.

Edit again:

Looks like after installing network-manager network-manager-gnome  it's there again, but apt removed modemmanager or something like that instead.

The weird is that I always check if something shall be removed and I am sure there was nothing to be removed when I did my d-u today, probably vilde is going crazy. On the other hand as Waylon sings, "I've always been crazy but it's kept me from going insane"
 
« Last Edit: 2014/03/28, 15:31:44 by vilde »

Offline GoinEasy9

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #3 on: 2014/03/29, 03:12:00 »
Or as Joe Walsh said, "They say I'm crazy, but I have a good time."

BTW - We're not going crazy, we're already there.  Or as it's been said here in forum, "Bat shit crazy".  Heh

BTW2 - I just saw devil's post in the German thread about modemmanager & NM.  He said, (Translated) "The removal of the NM packages are also related to the Gnome transition.". 
And, as far as I, a KDE user can see, it's still in progress.  Thought I'd mention it here.
« Last Edit: 2014/03/29, 03:25:20 by GoinEasy9 »
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Offline michaa7

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OT: (Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u)
« Reply #4 on: 2014/03/29, 06:28:26 »
..."They say I'm crazy, but I have a good time."
...

That's a good one, I like it (didn't know Joe W., but now I've googled him)
« Last Edit: 2014/03/29, 07:03:04 by michaa7 »
Ok, you can't code, but you still might be able to write a bug report for Debian's sake

UP2L8

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #5 on: 2014/03/29, 22:45:34 »
@michaa7...you must be a young one.  I remember Joe Walsh and the song mentioned by GoinEasy9.

Offline vilde

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #6 on: 2014/03/30, 15:34:51 »
Today networkmanager was updated on d-u. In system tray networkmanager is gone but the network works.

Offline dsat

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #7 on: 2014/03/30, 16:19:21 »
Hi,

if you install plasma-nm, network will appear again in system-tray

regards dsat

Offline vilde

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #8 on: 2014/03/30, 17:01:17 »
Hi,

if you install plasma-nm, network will appear again in system-tray

regards dsat
That will install 73 new packages, kde? I don't even try that. Isn't plasma something for kde, I have xfce

I feel maybe I shall skip networkmanager and start using ceni? Problem about networkmanager seems like a gnome problem, I don't run gnome, I don,t run kde, I don't want to be hit with problems for those two.

Offline dsat

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #9 on: 2014/03/31, 09:29:49 »
Hi,

you are right, plasma is KDE, sorry, I did not recognize that you are running XFCE

regards dsat

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #10 on: 2014/03/31, 13:04:38 »
Hi all,
as a workaround, I can recommend the following:
plasma-nm, network-manager and modemmanager put on HOLD until the error is fixed.

Code: [Select]
# apt-mark hold network-manager plasma-nm modemmanager

I have this issue once "fixed" it is at the top of the list of posts, as this is a very important issue. A working network is essential.

Offline drb

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #11 on: 2014/04/01, 10:34:52 »
Is this just a gnome problem? My du -dV shows nothing to remove.

Offline vilde

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #12 on: 2014/04/01, 10:51:04 »
Is this just a gnome problem? My du -dV shows nothing to remove.
As I have xfce it doesn't only hit gnome.
For the moment I have no network-manager, it doesn't work to install it. I'm using ceni at least until this problem is gone

Offline ayla

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #13 on: 2014/04/01, 10:57:25 »
no, it.s not just a gnome problem.

KDE is hitten also. D-u does not show anything to remove because the cause are the  packages to be upgraded

Last good working combination for KDE is to find in testing:

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cal@neskaya:~cal: apt-cache policy network-manager
network-manager:
  Installiert:           0.9.8.0-5
  Installationskandidat: 0.9.8.8-4
  Versionstabelle:
     0.9.8.8-4 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
 *** 0.9.8.0-5 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
cal@neskaya:~cal: apt-cache policy modemmanager
modemmanager:
  Installiert:           0.5.2.0-2.1
  Installationskandidat: 1.0.0-4
  Versionstabelle:
     1.0.0-4 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
 *** 0.5.2.0-2.1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
cal@neskaya:~cal: apt-cache policy plasma-nm
plasma-nm:
  Installiert:           0.9.3.2-3
  Installationskandidat: 0.9.3.3-2
  Versionstabelle:
     0.9.3.3-2 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     0.9.3.3-1 0
          1 http://http.debian.net/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
 *** 0.9.3.2-3 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Or, as vilde said, use ceni insteed for the moment if you are hitten and don't need modemmanager.
« Last Edit: 2014/04/01, 11:01:16 by ayla »

Offline drb

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Re: I think I lost network-manager on last d-u
« Reply #14 on: 2014/04/01, 11:04:44 »
Thanks!