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Title: Mail Software
Post by: mylo on 2012/05/17, 21:04:39
Hi all,

from time to time I am unsatisfied with kmail, for certain reasons. I think about migrating back to thunderbird.

I am interested in opinions about quality and future development of these two tools. Which one is more bleeding edge and suiting to siduction?

I will take these opinions as base for my decision, with which tool I will proceed.

Thanks for contributing!

EDIT: replace "thunderbird" by "icedove"
Title: RE: Mail Software
Post by: titan on 2012/05/17, 23:12:25
I gave up on Kmail years ago, after trying most of the alternatives I found claws mail does everything I need. Easy to configure, lots of plugins and themes. well worth a look.
Title: RE: Mail Software
Post by: mylo on 2012/05/18, 00:02:55
I'll going to try that, thanks for.
Title: RE: Mail Software
Post by: craigevil on 2012/05/19, 14:16:20
I have always just used Thunderbird downloaded from Mozilla.
Title: RE: Mail Software
Post by: ralul on 2012/05/19, 15:31:42
Just released geary-0.1. Not stable just yet, see issues
http://blog.yorba.org/laura/2012/05/geary-0-1-released.html

Background Interview:
http://elementaryos.org/journal/yorba-founder-software-engineer-adam-dingle
Title: Re: RE: Mail Software
Post by: DeepDayze on 2012/05/20, 00:49:47
Quote from: "craigevil"I have always just used Thunderbird downloaded from Mozilla.

Yup I use the plain vanilla TB from Mozilla as well...not too keen on icedove due to niggling issues here and there. Also you get the latest security updates automatically without waiting for a package to hit the mirrors
Title: RE: Re: RE: Mail Software
Post by: piper on 2012/05/20, 19:55:12
Thunderbird nightly for me ;)
Title: RE: Re: RE: Mail Software
Post by: cryptosteve on 2012/05/20, 20:02:55
+1, piper, +1 :)
Title: Re: RE: Mail Software
Post by: Nex on 2012/05/21, 09:12:13
Quote from: "ralul"Just released geary-0.1. Not stable just yet, see issues
http://blog.yorba.org/laura/2012/05/geary-0-1-released.html

Background Interview:
http://elementaryos.org/journal/yorba-founder-software-engineer-adam-dingle
Maybe a little bit off topic: I don't get why there is another GTK mail client. There are more than enough, IMHO.

Why is there a lack of QT mail clients? What is the issue with QT?

Regards
Title: Re: RE: Mail Software
Post by: der_bud on 2012/05/21, 09:29:32
Quote from: "DeepDayze"[... Also you get the latest security updates automatically without waiting for a package to hit the mirrors
I was always interested if updates work, but never tested thunderbird instead of icedove. Do you go to mozillas ftp-server and fetch your matching thunderbird as .deb, install that with dpkg, have the tickmark for automatic updates checked in preferences and than you get notification and automatic installation of updates from within thunderbird?
Title: RE: Re: RE: Mail Software
Post by: craigevil on 2012/05/21, 10:25:01
All I do is download Thunderbird, extract, copy the icedove.desktop that is in /usr/share/application and edit it for Thunderbird. I just leave Thunderbird in my /home/craig/Downloads along with Firefox.

BY placing thunderbird.desktop in /usr/share/applications it shows up on the kmenu in Internet.

Also set it as the default mail client in SystemSettings.
/home/craig/Downloads/thunderbird/thunderbird %u

thunderbird.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Categories=Network;Email;News;GTK;
Comment[en_US]=Read/Write Mail/News with Thunderbird
Comment=Read/Write Mail/News with Thunderbird
Exec=/home/craig/Downloads/thunderbird/thunderbird %u
GenericName[en_US]=Mail Client
GenericName=Mail Client
Icon=/home/craig/Downloads/thunderbird/chrome/icons/default/default32.png
MimeType=message/rfc822;
Name[en_US]=Thunderbird Mail/News
Name=Thunderbird Mail/News
Path=
StartupNotify=true
StartupWMClass=thunderbird
Terminal=false
TerminalOptions=
Type=Application
X-DBUS-ServiceName=
X-DBUS-StartupType=
X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false
X-KDE-Username=
X-MultipleArgs=false


Firefox is my default browser, thunderbird is my default mail client.
Title: RE: Re: RE: Mail Software
Post by: piper on 2012/05/23, 17:35:01
You can either use opt or home, I choose opt, have used both with no problems, or put it where you want.

Replace <username> with your log in user name.

Firefox

as root

chown piper -R /opt/firefox

chown -R root:users /opt/firefox

chown -R root:piper /opt/firefox

chmod 750 /opt/firefox

usermod -a -G users piper

ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox

touch /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktops

nano /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Mozilla Firefox
Comment=Browse the World Wide Web
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Exec=/usr/bin/firefox %U
Icon=/opt/firefox/icons/mozicon128.png
StartupNotify=true
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;


Firefox fix for x-www-browser

update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-www-browser x-www-browser /opt/firefox 90

update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /opt/firefox

Thunderbird

chown piper -R /opt/thunderbird

chown -R root:users /opt/thunderbird

chown -R root:piper /opt/thunderbird

chmod 750 /opt/thunderbird

ln -s /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird /usr/bin/thunderbird

touch /usr/share/applications/thunderbird.desktops

nano /usr/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop


[Desktop Entry]
Name=Thunderbird Mail
GenericName=Mail Client
Comment=Manage your email and contacts
Exec=/usr/bin/thunderbird %u
Icon=/opt/thunderbird/chrome/icons/default/default48.png
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Application;Network;Email;
StartupNotify=true
MimeType=text/calendar;text/x-vcard;text/directory;application/mbox;message/rfc822;x-scheme-handler/mailto;