Hi,
If someone uses gdm3 please don't do a d-u or please switch to another display manager.
Gdm3 is broken.
This might affect gnome users because gdm3 was used as display manager.
Thank you.
Do you use systemd-204
?
I was crazy because I thought the problem was nvidia drivers. I've installed 'lightdm' and I can work again.
Thanks!
I already got bit by this bug..is there any fix/workaround? And no I am not using systemd, even though some systemd packages got pulled in my last d-u
Hello dear gnome friends!
This bug includes some interesting details, but not (yet) a final solution for gdm3:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724731
greetings
musca
Quote from: "DeepDayze"I already got bit by this bug..is there any fix/workaround? And no I am not using systemd, even though some systemd packages got pulled in my last d-u
I am not that interested in Gnome. But I know Gnome-3.8 needs Systemd.
And I know Debian has garbled Systemd in two places:
/usr/lib/systemd
is the upstream place
/lib/systemd
Debian put it here. But Debian has left overs some at /usr/lib/systemd :( :(
Perhaps a workaround is to add some symlinks. (But then you have to remember to remove these before the next upgrade)
Any good tips/tricks on switching an existing install from Sysvinit to systemd in a clean way?
@DeepDayze, clean with an unclean Debian Systemd?
But calm down: It is installing in parallel safely. You just have to add init=/lib/systemd/systemd
to the grub "linux" line to boot with using it ....
Quote from: "ralul"@DeepDayze, clean with an unclean Debian Systemd?
But calm down: It is installing in parallel safely. You just have to add init=/lib/systemd/systemd
to the grub "linux" line to boot with using it ....
OK, then will I need to make any other changes to my system? I have a Debian Sid install that has Gnome3 desktop
What I mean by "clean" is not having anything else breaking.
@DeepDayze, reading the link of
Quote from: "musca"not (yet) a final solution for gdm3:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724731
it is already broken?
Quote from: "ralul"@DeepDayze, reading the link of
Quote from: "musca"not (yet) a final solution for gdm3:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724731
it is already broken?
Yea, gdm3 is broken not to mention having bad interactions with systemd
Hello dear gnome friends,
heavy discussions on the mailing lists today: gnome 3.8 depends on systemd-logind.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00444.html
One reaction was the proposal to switch to another default desktop.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00496.html
I heard the rumor that a very active maintainer of gnome and systemd has left the project at least for a while. He had planned to complete the rest of the gnome 3.8 transition in one big step in the next days.
Lets wait a bit and let the dust settle down.
greetings
musca
Quote from: "musca"Hello dear gnome friends,
heavy discussions on the mailing lists today: gnome 3.8 depends on systemd-logind.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00444.html
One reaction was the proposal to switch to another default desktop.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00496.html
I heard the rumor that a very active maintainer of gnome and systemd has left the project at least for a while. He had planned to complete the rest of the gnome 3.8 transition in one big step in the next days.
Lets wait a bit and let the dust settle down.
greetings
musca
so then should we install systemd-logind in this case or is that package also rather broken?
install lightdm :) - and done. The best would be: apt-get install siduction-settings-lightdm(-$foo)
Quote from: "agaida"install lightdm :) - and done. The best would be: apt-get install siduction-settings-lightdm(-$foo)
I'll give that a try with my Debian Sid GNOME 3 setup...thanks for that idea
have tested this with our live-cds and some folks in the IRC - should work without problems.
debian runs in the same problem now - with all possible consequences aka eventually switching to a new standard desktop (xfce), the temp. retirement of a systemd developer and much more mailinglist fun and flamewars. Hmm, i think the switch to lightdm for the moment is not such invasive ...
Quote from: "agaida"have tested this with our live-cds and some folks in the IRC - should work without problems.
debian runs in the same problem now - with all possible consequences aka eventually switching to a new standard desktop (xfce), the temp. retirement of a systemd developer and much more mailinglist fun and flamewars. Hmm, i think the switch to lightdm for the moment is not such invasive ...
Sounds like a plan so perhaps I'll temporarily disable gdm3 and switch to lightdm. How well does it handle GNOME 3?
OK switched to Lightdm and so far it works fine, but many of the existing Gnome-shell extensions are broken but was able to update many of them
Any tricks to get Lightdm to behave and look like gdm3?
gdm3 seems to be working again in version 3.8.4-3, but autologin does not work still.
One can try to install libpam-systemd - as far as i know should it be present - even in the case one don't use systemd. But maybe i didn't get it right :)
If this helps in any case, drop a message.
Hello my dear gnome users!
The transition to gnome 3.8 has done a big step forward:
3.8.4-6 gdm3
3.8.4-4 gnome-shell
3.8.4-2 gnome-shell-extensions
3.8.4-3 gnome-session
3.8.3-4 gnome-control-center
3.8.4-1 gnome-themes-standard
3.10.1-1 gnome-terminal
3.6.2-2 gnome-panel
3.6.2-2 gnome-session-fallback
204-5 systemd
204-5 libpam-systemd
204-5 libsystemd-daemon0
204-5 libsystemd-journal0
204-5 libsystemd-login0
I have done a successful dist-upgrade on firestarter-gnome. Finally gdm3 allowed me to login and so i will close this thread. Please feel free to open new threads if you encounter any issues. I'm now looking forward to explore the shiny new gnome 3.8 desktop.
greetings
musca