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Titel: Is it worth to change nvidia 6100 onboard against GeForce 8600 GT PCI-e
Beitrag von: michaa7 in 2014/08/25, 16:05:41
The video performance here is rather limited (mostly german TV-stream ARD/ZDF). I assume, but I have no real clue about it, that a better graphic device might be helpfull.
I have a Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA C51G [GeForce 6100] onboard

Would it it be worth to spent 20€/28$ for a GeForce 8600 GT 256mb?

From a benchmark on the net for the onboard device I see a rating of 24 points (whatever the points mean), whereas the GF8600gt has more than250 points.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=GeForce+6100+nForce+400&id=1182
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=GeForce+8600+GT&id=64

My assumtion is (but may be completly wrong) that a much better card (=faster card) would be able to render in better quality without stutters.

What's your well informed opinion?
Titel: Re: Is it worth to change nvidia 6100 onboard against GeForce 8600 GT PCI-e
Beitrag von: piper in 2014/08/25, 16:09:08
Yes, plus it won't take away from your ram :)


Onboard video uses system ram ;)
Titel: Re: Is it worth to change nvidia 6100 onboard against GeForce 8600 GT PCI-e
Beitrag von: michaa7 in 2014/08/25, 16:52:39
Zitat von: piper in 2014/08/25, 16:09:08
Yes, plus it won't take away from your ram :)


Onboard video uses system ram ;)

Yes, this additional effect is very welcome on my 1GB RAM system. Plus, the new (but used) card supports vdpau, the onboard device does not.

I bought the card, so I'll see in a few days ...

thx
Titel: Re: Is it worth to change nvidia 6100 onboard against GeForce 8600 GT PCI-e
Beitrag von: piper in 2014/08/25, 16:58:13
Good luck, I think your doing a good thing :)
Titel: Re: Is it worth to change nvidia 6100 onboard against GeForce 8600 GT PCI-e
Beitrag von: ReinerS in 2014/08/26, 14:45:19
I use such a card with passive cooling on my Multimedia-Box for tv-recording (no HDTV yet)  and playing.
It ist more than fast enough and gives good quality.

regards

Reiner
Titel: Re: Is it worth to change nvidia 6100 onboard against GeForce 8600 GT PCI-e
Beitrag von: musca in 2014/08/27, 15:12:55
Hello michaa7,

according to the nvidia driver matrix (https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/533434/linux/current-graphics-driver-releases/post/3751724/#3751724) the GeForce 8600 GT still can be used with driver version 340.xx while the older GeForce 6100 is supported only by the legacy-304.xx driver. So you have more features and more time left, until the support for new xorg releases will be dropped.

Beware: soon™ a new legacy package nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver will appear, that you will have to use as the 343 release already dropped the support for anything older than Fermi.

greetings
musca
Titel: Re: Is it worth to change nvidia 6100 onboard against GeForce 8600 GT PCI-e
Beitrag von: michaa7 in 2014/08/27, 23:38:14
@ musca
Thanks for the heads up concerning driver .340 <-> .343 and nvidia 8600 GT

So far it seems a good choice. The new card has DVI, the old was VGA, so the image is more brilliant. I have 5% more RAM available, video content seem to load faster (flash).

After some trouble with the driver (304 -> 340, worked ... until reboot. Turns out I forgott to purge the old one) now all seems to work well with one exception: flash (on some TV channels) shows wrong colors. It used to work with the old card, even today when I looked a soccer game (ZDF). In the pause I change the card and the colors went sick.

Towo told me to disable hardware acceleration in flash, but I connot reach this setting in the flash context menue. It freezes or does not accept changing tabs. (In the past I had flash versions who's settings I could change and versions who's settings dialog freezes everytime I tried to change something. The last version .400 seems to belong to the latter group)
Is there a way to disable hardware acceleration in flash within a config file? What else could I try?

Other than that, the new card seems a good investment.

Edit:
wrong colors in flash problem is related to Opera browser 12.16.
/Edit

Edit2:
wrong colors in flash problem is not related only to Opera. Midor and qupzilla showed wrong colors, too FF/IW didn't. But with midori, I could access the flash context menue and disable hw accelleration. Now all browser show right colors and I can use Opera again but all mentioned browsers now constantly need 90% to 100%  CPU power which makes me feel a bit concerned about CPU lifetime.