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Title: Is Ubuntu Moving Away from .deb Packages?
Post by: KrunchTime on 2015/05/03, 23:55:07
Interesting read (http://www.itworld.com/article/2914850/linux/is-ubuntu-moving-away-from-deb-packages-here-is-the-complete-story.html?nsdr=true)
Title: Re: Is Ubuntu Moving Away from .deb Packages?
Post by: devil on 2015/05/04, 06:09:10
Fedora 23 will release at least one spin with a similar concept. They are sticking to RPM, but using RPM-OSTree to handle atomic updates. The idea that Canonical wants to put in power is old. The Nix-Package-Manager (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nix_package_manager) does the same thing (one dir per package) for more than 10 years.


greetz
devil
Title: Re: Is Ubuntu Moving Away from .deb Packages?
Post by: KrunchTime on 2015/05/04, 07:49:51
@devil:  I didn't know that about Fedora.  Thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: Is Ubuntu Moving Away from .deb Packages?
Post by: spacepenguin on 2015/05/04, 12:17:33
AFAIK GoboLinux also uses the concept of one directory per package?

I'm not quite sure if I like the idea...
Title: Re: Is Ubuntu Moving Away from .deb Packages?
Post by: devil on 2015/05/04, 14:34:05
They do, as does Bedrock. Bedrock even takes it further, as you can have packages from different distros/package formats in one system. Although it's a real PITA to install. Been there, done that. With the next release in September things are supposed to get easier there.


Not long ago I publiushed an article in the german magazine Linux User on theserather exotic systems. I was a follow up on an article about Poettering's essay on how to build distributions in the future. He grabbed quite some ideas from these pioneer distros.


greetz
devil
Title: Re: Is Ubuntu Moving Away from .deb Packages?
Post by: cryptosteve on 2015/05/04, 21:12:15
PCBSD also uses this with the pbi format ...
Title: Re: Is Ubuntu Moving Away from .deb Packages?
Post by: KrunchTime on 2015/05/08, 11:56:59
I tried GoboLinux a long time ago, so long ago I don't remember much about the experience.  I do remember the feature of being able to use up-to-date apps; that's what attracted me to it.
Title: Re: Is Ubuntu Moving Away from .deb Packages?
Post by: devil on 2015/05/09, 07:56:16
I did not like Gobo-Linux too much, mostly becvause it was ugly as far as I remember. I did like NixOS and Bedrock a lot.


greetz
devil