Caution!
Achtung Baby!
Quotesystemd (220-2) unstable; urgency=low
* 220-1 was meant to go to experimental, but was accidentally uploaded to
unstable. This was planned for next week anyway, just not on a Friday;
we don't revert, but keep an RC bug open for a few days to get broader
testing. Reupload 220-1 with its changelog actually pointing to unstable
and with all versions in the .changes.
-- Martin Pitt <mpitt@debian.org> Fri, 29 May 2015 18:54:09 +0200
Just reading the systemd-220 ChangeLogs further before I consider any upgrade:
QuoteRemove our update-rc.d patches, replace them with upstream patches for
/lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install abstraction, and provide one for
update-rc.d. Also implement "is-enabled" command by directly checking for
the presence of rcS or rc5 symlinks. (Closes: #760616)
Now, this sounds brave: Removing some of the downstream Debian hackery ...
While caution is definitely advised, here's the word from Martin Pitt, the uploader: https://plus.google.com/+MartinPitti/posts/YQrLh2nZfhs (https://plus.google.com/+MartinPitti/posts/YQrLh2nZfhs)
I have just updated two very different siduction/systemd systems and see no problems whatsoever.
What impact does this have on the system? I followed the link, but can't find any info about how this impacts the system.
I have 215-18 on this computer and 220-2 on my other Siduction computer. As dibl said above, I haven't experienced any problem with the 220-2 machine.
It works fine here!
if it works fine - fine - don't do anything :P. In case some services behave strange one have eventually do some cleanup. Will post some things later.
Quote from: bluelupo on 2015/05/30, 15:45:27
It works fine here!
Everybody who reads the Debian bugs must admit
systemd is maintained in an unbeatable diligent fashion.
Quote from: Martin PittThere are no known regressions;the issues that we found in 220 are patched,
... and coordinated work with Ubuntu splendidly happens.
hello,
udev (part of systemd) has an issue which breaks network for "allow-hotplug" devices configured in /etc/network/interfaces.
see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787263
This will affect users of our former tool ceni which uses allow-hotplug for wired interfaces.
Users should switch to either systemd-networkd or connman or network-manager.
I think we should have a new thread on each subtopic.
greetings
musca
Users using the initrd tool dracut instead of Debian official tools
will not be able to mount, because sysinit/rootfs...fsck.service fails.
My observation:
Since systemd-220 all of files /lib/systemd/system/dracut....service
are wiped out, despite I have done a re-install of dracut.
There is no Debian bug about the issue. Obviously nobody uses dracut :(
I did begin using dracut since I switched to systemd before Debian officially did.
Thought a good idea. But I am not hit as much as I can use my self compiled kernels
which are not in need of any initrd: "make localyesconfig" did that trick.
Quote from: musca on 2015/05/31, 13:40:29
hello,
udev (part of systemd) has an issue which breaks network for "allow-hotplug" devices configured in /etc/network/interfaces.
see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787263 (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787263)
This will affect users of our former tool ceni which uses allow-hotplug for wired interfaces.
Users should switch to either systemd-networkd or connman or network-manager.
I think we should have a new thread on each subtopic.
greetings
musca
Looks like there's a fix coming for that bug...hang tight :)
Quote from: musca on 2015/05/31, 13:40:29
udev (part of systemd) has an issue which breaks network for "allow-hotplug" devices configured in /etc/network/interfaces.
see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787263 (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787263)
This will affect users of our former tool ceni which uses allow-hotplug for wired interfaces.
I can confirm this problem as it occurs on two of my computers with aptosid-systemd systems. Ceni takes no interfaces (for example: eth0 on the PC and Notebook with wlan0). A manual start with "ifup eth0" or "ifup wlan0" works, but does not solve the real problem.
Quote from: musca on 2015/05/31, 13:40:29
Users should switch to either systemd-networkd or connman or network-manager.
I think we should have a new thread on each subtopic.
A change seems to make sense, a thread for systemd-networkd would be useful!
graviton
So, jetzt bitte ne kleine Kurzfassung auf Deutsch .. ;)
Google-Übersetzung und meine schwachen Englischkenntnisse erwecken bei mir nicht das Vertrauen, das ich alles richtig verstehe .... ;)
Danke .... 8)
Hello,
... and it will bring the fixed version of udev 220-3, see changelog:
* sd-device: fix device_get_properties_strv(). Fixes environment for
processes spawned by udev, in particular "allow-hoplug" ifupdown
interfaces via ifup@.service. (Closes: #787263)
so just wait 3 or 4 hours more before you dist-upgrade.
greetings
musca
Hallo reddark,
durch einen Bug in udev funktioniert die klassische Netzwerkkonfiguration momentan nicht, so dass Anwender von Ceni betroffen sind.
Mit dem nächsten Repo-Sync in etwa 3-4 Stunden kommt der Fix.
Grüße
musca
@musca
danke .... gut das ich gewartet hab ... ;)
Quoteapt-cache policy systemd
systemd:
Installiert: 215-18
Installationskandidat: 220-3
Versionstabelle:
220-3 0
500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
Quote from: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787263
Source: systemd
Source-Version: 220-3
We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
systemd, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.
A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.
........
Changes:
systemd (220-3) unstable; urgency=medium
.
* Fix ProtectSystem=yes to actually protect /usr, not /home.
(Closes: #787343)
* sd-device: fix device_get_properties_strv(). Fixes environment for
processes spawned by udev, in particular "allow-hoplug" ifupdown
interfaces via ifup@.service. (Closes: #787263)
* Ignore test failures on mipsel; the three failures are not reproducible on
the porter box (different kernel?). (See #787258)
* Add ifupdown-hotplug autopkgtest. Reproduces #787263.
* udev: Bring back persistant storage symlinks for bcache. Thanks David
Mohr! (Closes: #787367)
* sd-device: Fix invalid property strv pointers. This unbreaks the
environment of udev callouts.
udev and systemd DU-ed to most recent version 220-4, but still no wireless-internet connection. Is there still any hope for ceni-users (like me) by waiting a few more days? or will systemd-networkd, connman, or network-manager be the future alternatives?
Greetings,
Jörg
@Jörg: Good question, for LXDE and LXQt i think i will prefer connman and cmst as frontend
@melmarker: and your advice for KDE?
On a dist-upgraded 64-bit wired KDE install ceni works just fine, no idea why :)
greetz
devil
On my system ceni gives ... Hardware devices: no values!
@Jörg: hmm - i will have a look at ceni, maybe the upstream changes solve it.
After two weeks of "waiting & thinking" the only way of setting up a wireless internet connection is:
[08:11:36] root@thinkpad-s540:/home/jorg# ifup wlan0
wpa_supplicant: wpa_action is managing ifup/ifdown state of wlan0
wpa_supplicant: execute `ifdown --force wlan0' to stop wpa_action
run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with return code 1
Failed to bring up wlan0.
[08:11:46] root@thinkpad-s540:/home/jorg#
Nevertheless the message "Failed to bring up wlan0", the wireless internet connection works until shutdown of the computer. After every new start I have to type in the root-console "ifup wlan0" again. Any explanation and help is welcome - thank you in advance.
Greetings,
Jörg
Hi Jörg,
have you switched to the new "systemd-networkd"? Perhaps this helps to get around your problem with the WLAN.
More info here (only in german):
http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5571.0
http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5580.0
connman and cmst work too