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Titel: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/08/29, 20:34:58
since some days every time I boot the there is a start job for network manager running, it's annoying taking between one and two minutes to complete
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: devil in 2016/08/29, 23:40:54
Did you check the journal for errors/warnings? A new network manager came in these days.


greetz
devil
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/08/30, 01:15:45
root@vilde_dator:/home/vilde# journalctl  --since=today
-- Logs begin at fre 2016-03-11 11:39:29 CET, end at tis 2016-08-30 01:11:19 CEST. --
aug 30 00:02:43 vilde_dator NetworkManager[708]: <info>  [1472508163.8263] device (wlp3s0): set-hw-addr: set MAC address to CE:0D:C3:26:4C:5F (scanning)
aug 30 00:02:44 vilde_dator kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
aug 30 00:02:44 vilde_dator kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
aug 30 00:02:44 vilde_dator kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x2-0x0
aug 30 00:02:44 vilde_dator kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
aug 30 00:02:44 vilde_dator kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
aug 30 00:02:44 vilde_dator kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x2-0x0
aug 30 00:02:44 vilde_dator NetworkManager[708]: <info>  [1472508164.1845] device (wlp3s0): supplicant interface state: inactive -> disabled
aug 30 00:02:44 vilde_dator kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlp3s0: link is not ready
aug 30 00:02:44 vilde_dator NetworkManager[708]: <info>  [1472508164.2098] device (wlp3s0): supplicant interface state: disabled -> disconnected
aug 30 00:02:44 vilde_dator NetworkManager[708]: <info>  [1472508164.2152] device (wlp3s0): supplicant interface state: disconnected -> inactive
aug 30 00:02:44 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[7607]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger since one is already pending
aug 30 00:07:59 vilde_dator NetworkManager[708]: <info>  [1472508479.8268] device (wlp3s0): set-hw-addr: set MAC address to A2:FB:22:1D:D3:C6 (scanning)
aug 30 00:08:00 vilde_dator kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
aug 30 00:08:00 vilde_dator kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
aug 30 00:08:00 vilde_dator kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Radio type=0x1-0x2-0x0
aug 30 00:08:00 vilde_dator kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
aug 30 00:08:00 vilde_dator kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: harley-peter in 2016/08/30, 07:59:55
Hello,

after an du 2 weeks ago I have a similar problem on my Thinkpad. Maybe it is the same problem.

Aug 30 07:32:06 thinkpad kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-6000-6.ucode failed with error -2
Aug 30 07:32:07 thinkpad kernel: iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-6000-5.ucode failed with error -2


After this message I have to wait about 1 minute before the boot procedure continue. But all seems to works fine.
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: devil in 2016/08/30, 09:18:32
Vilde,
I can't see anything in there to warrant such a wait.


greetz
devil
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/08/30, 09:41:58
Some times it's much shorter, this boot the start job was over after a few seconds.

Anyway, I will go away for some days and will not be able to check this further until next weekend.
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/09/04, 09:42:56
Still same problem, nearly every boot I have to wait 1 minit and 302 seconds for a start job for network manager.

I have tried to purge network manager and network manager gnome and then after reboot reinstall them but still same problem.
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/09/07, 08:54:08
I'm booting my laptop several times each day and are completely bored of this "start job" so now I have purged Network Manager and are using ceni as in the good old times. 
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: dieres in 2016/09/07, 20:18:54
I have the same problem since DU two days ago. Yes it is boaring to wait 90 sec every boot, not finding any error.
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/09/07, 21:39:49
I have checked around and maybe it has to do with systemd and "NetworkManager-wait-online.service" but I don't understand enough toooo ehhhhh understand it. :( Maybe somebody who knows more can check that?
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: towo in 2016/09/08, 15:11:23
I have seen this problem exact one time on an system @work. It was using sddm, after installing lightdm, the "waiting for networkmanager" was gone.

Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: melmarker in 2016/09/08, 19:56:48
one could disable the wait-online service -- if no dependend services require it. Solved :P
(services like nfs and so on)
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/09/08, 20:58:45
I have tried this root@vilde_dator:/home/vilde# systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service
Removed /etc/systemd/system/network-online.target.wants/NetworkManager-wait-online.service.
root@vilde_dator:/home/vilde#
but it doesn't help. How shall I disable it?
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: melmarker in 2016/09/08, 22:07:32
ok - now we know that the Problem is not the wait-online service - so no clue, only the advice to dig a little bit deeper and find the reason why the nm-service fails.
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/09/09, 00:20:43
ok, I have no idea if this can be to any help but first time the problem started systemd also did a start job for my second hardisk on every boot, four start jobs, one for each partition with ntfs file system and then finally the one for network manager. As this with hard disks have happen before when uuid has changed I checked fstab but uuid was the same and right so to get rid of that I put a # in front of this lines in fstab, (they are anyway not supposed to be mounted when booted in to siduction) then there was only the start job for network manager left.
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: dieres in 2016/09/10, 14:50:12
Change from sddm to lightdm doesn't solve the Problem here, but after DU this day the error disappeared on my system.
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/09/10, 16:16:49
Just did a d-u, unfortunately no change here so I'm back to ceni again.

Edit: Maybe I'm wrong but I feel that most of the problem I had with siduction since systemd introduced are related to systemd. I don't know very much about this but maybe it is that systemd has its tentacles everywhere and therefore it feels like it has to do with a lot of problems??????????
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: ayla in 2016/09/11, 00:04:07
Hi,

I had had the same issue since a few weeks or so. As on dieres system the problem disapeared after the d-u today.

cal@thendara:~$ apt-cache policy network-manager
network-manager:
  Installiert:           1.4.0-3
  Installationskandidat: 1.4.0-3
  Versionstabelle:
*** 1.4.0-3 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
cal@thendara:~$ apt-cache policy plasma-nm
plasma-nm:
  Installiert:           4:5.7.4-1
  Installationskandidat: 4:5.7.4-1
  Versionstabelle:
*** 4:5.7.4-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
cal@thendara:~$ apt-cache policy sddm
sddm:
  Installiert:           0.14.1~1-gecb903e-1
  Installationskandidat: 0.14.1~1-gecb903e-1
  Versionstabelle:
*** 0.14.1~1-gecb903e-1 500
        500 http://ftp.uni-stuttgart.de/siduction/extra unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     0.13.0-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
cal@thendara:~$ apt-cache policy systemd
systemd:
  Installiert:           231-5
  Installationskandidat: 231-5
  Versionstabelle:
*** 231-5 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


greets
ayla
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/09/12, 09:45:10
After a new d-u with new systemd today I tried with n-m again but still the same shit here.
vilde@vilde_dator:~$ apt-cache policy network-manager*
network-manager-pptp:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.2-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.2-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-iodine:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.0-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.0-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-iodine-gnome:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.0-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.0-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-strongswan:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.3.1-2
  Versionstabell:
     1.3.1-2 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-openconnect-gnome:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.2-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.2-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-ssh:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.1-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.1-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-vpnc:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.2-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.2-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-gnome:
  Installerad: 1.4.0-2
  Kandidat:    1.4.0-2
  Versionstabell:
*** 1.4.0-2 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
network-manager:
  Installerad: 1.4.0-3
  Kandidat:    1.4.0-3
  Versionstabell:
*** 1.4.0-3 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
network-manager-openvpn:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.4-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.4-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-ssh-gnome:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.1-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.1-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-dev:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.4.0-3
  Versionstabell:
     1.4.0-3 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-openvpn-gnome:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.4-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.4-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-vpnc-gnome:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.2-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.2-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-openconnect:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.2-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.2-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
network-manager-pptp-gnome:
  Installerad: (ingen)
  Kandidat:    1.2.2-1
  Versionstabell:
     1.2.2-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
vilde@vilde_dator:~$ apt-cache policy sddm
sddm:
  Installerad: 0.14.1~1-gecb903e-1
  Kandidat:    0.14.1~1-gecb903e-1
  Versionstabell:
*** 0.14.1~1-gecb903e-1 500
        500 http://packages.siduction.org/extra unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     0.13.0-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
vilde@vilde_dator:~$ apt-cache policy systemd
systemd:
  Installerad: 231-6
  Kandidat:    231-6
  Versionstabell:
*** 231-6 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: ayla in 2016/09/12, 15:10:52
upgradet systemd to 231-6 during a d-u today. No change here, still boots fast.
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/09/12, 15:31:23
ayla, you are on kde, I'm on xfce, maybe there is some different there. You have plasma n-m I have network-manager-gnome, maybe that is belonging to the xfce part?
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: hendrikL in 2016/09/12, 15:38:56
please post
systemctl status network-manager.service
systemctl status wpa_supplicant.service
cat /etc/network/interfaces
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: ayla in 2016/09/12, 15:42:13
@ vilde: I guess so, but the issue was the same, so I thougt  it's not depending on the flavour. But whatever it may be, maybe it's fixed now just for kde...
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/09/12, 16:19:41
root@vilde_dator:/home/vilde# systemctl status network-manager.service
● NetworkManager.service - Network Manager
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service; enabled;
   Active: active (running) since mån 2016-09-12 08:43:53 CEST; 7h ago
     Docs: man:NetworkManager(8)
Main PID: 656 (NetworkManager)
    Tasks: 3 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/NetworkManager.service
           └─656 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon

sep 12 16:01:31 vilde_dator NetworkManager[656]: <info>  [1473688891.329
sep 12 16:06:46 vilde_dator NetworkManager[656]: <info>  [1473689206.991
sep 12 16:06:47 vilde_dator NetworkManager[656]: <info>  [1473689207.354
sep 12 16:06:47 vilde_dator NetworkManager[656]: <info>  [1473689207.392
sep 12 16:12:02 vilde_dator NetworkManager[656]: <info>  [1473689522.998
sep 12 16:12:03 vilde_dator NetworkManager[656]: <info>  [1473689523.357
sep 12 16:12:03 vilde_dator NetworkManager[656]: <info>  [1473689523.382
sep 12 16:17:18 vilde_dator NetworkManager[656]: <info>  [1473689838.946
sep 12 16:17:19 vilde_dator NetworkManager[656]: <info>  [1473689839.304
sep 12 16:17:19 vilde_dator NetworkManager[656]: <info>  [1473689839.332
root@vilde_dator:/home/vilde# systemctl status wpa_supplicant.service
● wpa_supplicant.service - WPA supplicant
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant.service; disabled;
   Active: active (running) since mån 2016-09-12 08:43:54 CEST; 7h ago
Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 15:35:11 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 15:40:27 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 15:45:43 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 15:50:59 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 15:56:15 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 16:01:31 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 16:06:47 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 16:12:03 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 16:17:19 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
lines 4-18/18 (END)
Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 15:35:11 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 15:40:27 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 15:45:43 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 15:50:59 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 15:56:15 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 16:01:31 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 16:06:47 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 16:12:03 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
sep 12 16:17:19 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tr
~
lines 4-18/18 (END)
Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tri
sep 12 15:35:11 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tri
sep 12 15:40:27 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tri
sep 12 15:45:43 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tri
sep 12 15:50:59 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tri
sep 12 15:56:15 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tri
sep 12 16:01:31 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tri
sep 12 16:06:47 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tri
sep 12 16:12:03 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tri
sep 12 16:17:19 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan tri
~
~
lines 4-18/18 (END)
Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigg
sep 12 15:35:11 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigg
sep 12 15:40:27 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigg
sep 12 15:45:43 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigg
sep 12 15:50:59 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigg
sep 12 15:56:15 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigg
sep 12 16:01:31 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigg
sep 12 16:06:47 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigg
sep 12 16:12:03 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigg
sep 12 16:17:19 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigg
~
~
lines 4-18/18 (END)
Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 15:35:11 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 15:40:27 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 15:45:43 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 15:50:59 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 15:56:15 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 16:01:31 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 16:06:47 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 16:12:03 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 16:17:19 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
~
~
~
lines 4-18/18 (END)

Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 15:35:11 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 15:40:27 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
sep 12 15:45:43 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigge
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Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger
sep 12 15:35:11 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger
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Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger
sep 12 15:35:11 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger
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Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger
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Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger
sep 12 15:35:11 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger
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Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger
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Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger s
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Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger si
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Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger sin
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Main PID: 3678 (wpa_supplicant)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant.service
           └─3678 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant

sep 12 15:29:55 vilde_dator wpa_supplicant[3678]: wlp3s0: Reject scan trigger sinc
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root@vilde_dator:/home/vilde# cat /etc/network/interfaces
# /etc/network/interfaces - configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)

# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

allow-hotplug enp0s25
iface enp0s25 inet dhcp

Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: hendrikL in 2016/09/12, 16:42:23
so, if you use NM, there is no need for a /e/n/interfaces
then, disable that networkmanager-wait-online.service with disable and than mask it!
Do you use wifi/wlan to connect or cable?
If you use cable, why do you try to start wifi? If you don't need it, disable it!
or set it up the right way!
Read the messages from journalctl and status wpa_.......
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/09/12, 16:59:49
 @ hendrikL Sorry but I don't understand what you want me to do, as I have wrote before here I'm a user not a developer.

Zitatso, if you use NM, there is no need for a /e/n/interfaces
I don't know what that is?
Zitatthen, disable that networkmanager-wait-online.service with disable and than mask it!
???
ZitatDo you use wifi/wlan to connect or cable?
I use cable
ZitatIf you use cable, why do you try to start wifi? If you don't need it, disable it!
I have not activly tried to start any wifi, and there is no wifi conected, don't a clean install of siduction always try to look for network? Besides, sometimes I do disconnect the computer and use it somewhere else, then I need the wifi to work.
Zitator set it up the right way!
How?
ZitatRead the messages from journalctl and status wpa_.......
I have tried to read messages and logs many times but I have to say that I don't understand what they say, I know to little about this, to many words and computer related special expressions I don't understand.
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: agaida in 2016/09/12, 17:19:15
apt purge wpasupplicant - and be done with it
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: hendrikL in 2016/09/12, 17:22:18
as $user like the most off us, you should read some documentations and search the internet, and i am an $user too!

so,
1 /e/n/i == /etc/network/interfaces (ceni ?= configure /etc/network/interfaces)
1.1 as root ~# mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces~

2 systemctl status NetworkManager-wait-online.service

3 to stop the wifi hardware use rfkill if you have one.
if not than this is just for the interested ones.

rfkill list shows you the device,
with rfkill block N, you disable it (N=number)

here an example how it looks, when you have blocked bluetooth
rfkill list
0: tpacpi_bluetooth_sw: Bluetooth
        Soft blocked: yes
        Hard blocked: no
1: phy0: Wireless LAN
        Soft blocked: no
        Hard blocked: no


3.1 systemctl disable wpa_suppliucant.service && systemctl mask wpa_supplicant.service

4 Try to learn a little bit to interpret the messages and to use a web search engine, you are using debian sid/unstable
so if you get a bunch of error messages from on service/app or what ever, start to dig for that error.
That is all i can say.
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: vilde in 2016/09/12, 18:17:36
Than you agaida, apt purge wpasupplicant worked, but now I probably can't use wifi or?

Also, thank you for your effort hendrikL but I don't understand very much more now and no I don't want to learn about systemd or understand network vocabulary and how it works, I do other things.

I'm not using debian-unstable, I use siduction I know it's nearly pure debian unstable, but fixed so I can use it, i'ts been like that since all were on Kanotix, so I have been here for many many years without knowing this things. The day I have to fix the unstable problem myself I will start to use something else.

And also again, thank you everybody who make me be able to use siducion and debian-unstable, thank you everybody who try to help on the forum. I really appreciate it and have always done.

When I write something about a problem I have, it's not only to say that I want help, it's also a way to show the developers that there may be a problem that can and/or need to be fixed.

Enough OT, have a nice day everybody.
Titel: Re: on every boot a n annoying start job for network manager
Beitrag von: agaida in 2016/09/12, 18:44:29
@vilde - if you want to use wifi - ok, you have to re-install wpasupplicant. but for now it was the most simple solution (KISS) - disable the wpa-supplicant service would be sufficient.