Since we were all very busy in our jobs or on vacation in these last months, we did not make all that much progress on our next release. We know what we want to ship, we just need time to do it. To let you not sit on images that need a huge update after installing, we have built a new set of images today.
Flavours are KDE, Lxde, LXQt, MATE, Xfce, nox and xorg. The netinstall we are working on also has a fresh build that you can try on a spare machine or in a VM. Thbe images can be found on https://testbuilds.siduction.org/. They have all (apart from the netinstall) been booted and installed, but that is the extent of our testing for these builds. All new builds have todays date.
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Da wir alle in den letzten Monaten beruflich sehr eingespannt oder im Urlaub waren, sind wir mit unserer nächsten Version nicht sehr weit gekommen. Wir wissen, was wir veröffentlichen wollen, wir brauchen nur Zeit dafür. Um euch nicht auf Images sitzen zu lassen, die nach der Installation ein großes Update benötigen, haben wir heute einen neuen Satz Images erstellt.
Die Flavours sind KDE, Lxde, LXQt, MATE, Xfce, nox und xorg. Der Netinstaller, an der wir arbeiten, hat auch einen frischen Build, den ihr auf einem Zweitrechner oder in einer VM ausprobieren könnt. Die Images liegen auf https://testbuilds.siduction.org/. Sie wurden alle (außer dem Netinstaller) gebootet und installiert, aber das ist das Ausmaß unserer Tests für diese Builds. Alle neuen Builds tragen das heutige Datum.
Hi,
Habe mir mal die netinstaller iso in Virtualbox installiert. Installation mit manueller Partionierung lief durch. Mit Cinnamon
Das Handbuch wird mir nicht als PDF angezeigt sondern irgendwie als "Datei". Also zu lesen ist dann nur Kauderwelsch.
Schnell noch die aktuellen Mint Themen und Icons installiert damit ich mit Cinnamon Feeling bekomme,
Bisher rennt es
BalouB
Moin
Ist es möglich, auch ein Cinnamon Iso zu aktualisieren? Würde mir viel Download ersparen. Danke schon mal
Major issue with the KDE version. I go to install rootactions in Dolphin and I get what you see in the video. I have never had this issue with adding Rootactions in Dolphin in any OS. Any idea what you guys might have done.? That by the way is on two different installs. I reinstalled in case it might of just been something with the first install.
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/741631665/privacy
@Balou
Was passiert denn, wenn du das Manual z. B. mit Okular aufrufst?
okular /usr/share/siduction-manual/siduction-manual_de.pdf
edlin
@edlin
Ich meine die netinstaller iso. Da wird das Handbuch im "Browser" aufgerufen. Schreibe aber gerade von meinen kleinen Laptop.
Schaue mir das gerne nochmal an welches Programm da genau aufgerufen wird. Aber ich denke mal okular ist bei der netstaller iso
nicht drauf.
Balou
Quote from: Locutus on 2022/08/21, 18:56:42
Major issue with the KDE version. I go to install rootactions in Dolphin and I get what you see in the video. I have never had this issue with adding Rootactions in Dolphin in any OS. Any idea what you guys might have done.? That by the way is on two different installs. I reinstalled in case it might of just been something with the first install.
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/741631665/privacy
Looks like this addon install routine asks for root permissions via sudo. It even tells you where the problem is. So add your user to group "wheel" and try again,
As root:
# gpassd -a <your username> wheel
# exitLogout and re-login.
Edit: this should be not a new issue but happen with any Siduction install dating back over the years.
OK I'll log back into Seduction and try that, but it still begs why? I should already be a member of sudo.
Quote from: vinzv on 2022/08/21, 22:07:21
Quote from: Locutus on 2022/08/21, 18:56:42
Major issue with the KDE version. I go to install rootactions in Dolphin and I get what you see in the video. I have never had this issue with adding Rootactions in Dolphin in any OS. Any idea what you guys might have done.? That by the way is on two different installs. I reinstalled in case it might of just been something with the first install.
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/741631665/privacy
Looks like this addon install routine asks for root permissions via sudo. It even tells you where the problem is. So add your user to group "wheel" and try again,
As root:
# gpassd -a <your username> wheel
# exit
Logout and re-login.
Edit: this should be not a new issue but happen with any Siduction install dating back over the years.
This seems to be inherited from Debian itself. I decided to install Debian from the web installer and chose plasma as the desktop then switch to unstable once on the desktop and when I went to ad rootactions there got the same thing. It's ashame with as long as Debian has been around that they haven't addresses a issue like this.
Quote from: Locutus on 2022/08/25, 14:35:13It's ashame with as long as Debian has been around that they haven't addresses a issue like this.
This is not an issue of Debian (or one of it's derivatives). Debian offers either to install with a classic root user ("su") or sudo.
Building an addon that uses kdesu (which is deprecated for years now) instead of a sane way like policykit does in fact point in another direction for the problem's root cause... ;-)
Heck, even rootaction addon's dev tells you (https://store.kde.org/p/998469/) there are issues. Plus the thing hasn't been updated for six years now. ::)
@rolo48
...bis jetzt ist nur die 17.09.2021er cinnamon vorhanden - moin .)
ich find das mit kde iss besser - nimm das ! ...obwohl wir Hochsommer haben: wintersky .)
Quote from: rolo48 on 2022/08/21, 07:09:52
Moin
Ist es möglich, auch ein Cinnamon Iso zu aktualisieren? Würde mir viel Download ersparen. Danke schon mal
Sorry, wir haben Cinnamon auf Eis gelegt. Es ist niemand da, der es maintained. Du kannst es natürlich weiterhin in siduction installieren.
Quote from: Locutus on 2022/08/21, 18:56:42
Major issue with the KDE version. I go to install rootactions in Dolphin and I get what you see in the video...
Besides the fact that this is neither Debians nor siductions fault but only the author of the extension (and you for not seeing that this has been dead for years), there is no extension needed, as my blog post explains.
https://linuxnews.de/2022/01/kde-dolphin-als-root-per-policykit/
Hallo zusammen,
meine Anfrage weiter unten hat sich erledigt: Hab das aktuelle Testbuild ohne Probleme installiert, alles läuft wunderbar!
Vielen Dank ans Team. :-)
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Hallo, ich würde gern die Box meines Sohnes neu aufsetzen und frage mich, ob ich ein Testbuild nehmen oder besser auf das neue Weihnachts-Release warten sollte. Was würdet ihr mir empfehlen? Allen einen schönen Feiertag!
cs
Vielen Dank to Devil and the team.
Fortunate timing as I'll be rebuilding my system from scratch, (Hardware upgrades) in the next day or so.
Thus a fresh install will be required.
Sensational effort folks.
I only wanted to say that the test build for June 26, 2023, for KDE is rock solid.
I notice the homepage's ISOs have not been updated in quite some time and it maybe a good ideal to refresh them.
Just to clarify: the images on the homepage are official releases, that bring not only updated packages, but also new features. The test builds on https://testbuilds.siduction.org/ are just fresh builds of the latest sid snapshot with updated packages, that we build from time to time. They also feature desktop environments, that we, due to lack of maintainers, do not officially release at this point. The test builds are built, booted and installed, usually no further testing.
Quote from: devil on 2023/07/03, 06:59:42
Just to clarify: the images on the homepage are official releases, that bring not only updated packages, but also new features. The test builds on https://testbuilds.siduction.org/ are just fresh builds of the latest sid snapshot with updated packages, that we build from time to time. They also feature desktop environments, that we, due to lack of maintainers, do not officially release at this point. The test builds are built, booted and installed, usually no further testing.
That's fine and all, but the homepage build does not work for me, but the test build did. Either way, thanks for keeping this development going.
Quotebut the homepage build does not work for me
That's zero helpfull for us. "Does not work" sayes nothing!
Quote from: towo on 2023/07/04, 14:36:53
Quotebut the homepage build does not work for me
That's zero helpfull for us. "Does not work" sayes nothing!
It's not, but I really had no interest in pursuing it further, either, since the issue was not being able to see anything, including the boot menu. So I couldn't tell you anything, except I saw a black screen. And that isn't very helpful, but that is what I had to work with, so I decided to try the so-called "test build" and that worked.
QuoteThat's fine and all, but the homepage build does not work for me ...
It's not, but I really had no interest in pursuing it further ...
I recommend you firstly to calm down and then to ask yourself why so many siduction KDE users successfully installed the official release!
Maybe your downloaded iso was corrupt? Have you checked the sha sum?
Have a nice evening.
Quote from: samoht on 2023/07/04, 19:56:23
QuoteThat's fine and all, but the homepage build does not work for me ...
It's not, but I really had no interest in pursuing it further ...
I recommend you firstly to calm down and then to ask yourself why so many siduction KDE users successfully installed the official release!
Maybe your downloaded iso was corrupt? Have you checked the sha sum?
Have a nice evening.
I am sorry if you think I am upset, because I am not.
I always check the hash sum before burning an ISO. It was correct. -- I presume there was a firmware change between then and now (or something else concerning display). My video card is an AMD Radeon RX 640.
But I digress.The test build works and that's good enough. -- Have a good day.
I've decided to give Siduction another go and was wondering why such an old ISO siduction-2023.1.1-Standing_on_the_Shoulders_of_Giants-kde-amd64-202309091853.iso when SID which this is based off of is suppose to be a rolling release which means it should be up to date on Plasma and all drivers? Al would like to know if the rootactions issue has been addressed or will I still have to use the above posted fix? Thanks
EDIT:
Just found the the link for the test builds in a post above.
https://testbuilds.siduction.org/kde/
Between the official releases, you can use the latest test builds at https://testbuilds.siduction.org/. These are more up to date, so you can save yourself the fixes.
edlin
Ein paar Anregungen für das neue Build:
Ich nutze auf dem Läppi Kubuntu und sehe gerade, das dort einige Dinge gut sind, die bei Plasma-Siduction mir nicht so gut gefallen.
Vielleicht kann man das eine oder andere übernehmen:
1. in Systemaktivität (Strg+ESC) wid angezeigt, welche Programme gerade Internetaktivität haben (sowie viele andere Infos, die zuschaltbar sind). Finde ich super praktisch.
Siehe Anhang!
2. Aus Gnome-Programmen (vor allem aus Geeqie) lassen sich (oft) keine Dateien mehr woanders hinziehen.
Ich wähle z.B. ein oder mehrere Bilder mit geeqie aus, um sie dann mit der Maus in ein Krusaderfenster zu ziehen. Das geht oft nicht mehr.
Beides zuletzt getetstet aus dem Siduction-Image, welches ich im März neu installiert hatte.
hanks for the update! It's great to hear that you've built a new set of images despite everyone bing busy. I'm particularly excited try out the KDE and Xfce flavors. The fresh build for the network instalation sounds interesting, and I'll definitely test it on a virtual machine. Thanks for your hard work and looking forwrd to the new release!
Regard Richard :) (https://mazzani.pl/aranzacja-wnetrz/)