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Title: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: devil on 2024/11/16, 23:19:24
Plasma 6 will be migrating from Experimental to Sid within the next few days. Please ensure you read the APT output, when you do full-upgrade.

Plasma 6 wird in den nächsten Tagen von Experimental nach Sid migrieren. Bitte lest, was APT schreibt, wenn ihr ein full-upgrade durchführt.

Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Pip on 2024/11/17, 13:02:02
Exciting!
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: RunLevelZero on 2024/11/17, 15:24:47
[language=english]Can't wait[/language]
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Mte90 on 2024/11/18, 14:53:11
wow finally!
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: DeepDayze on 2024/11/20, 20:55:36
About time! I been playing with the experimental Plasma 6 packages on a test system and it's great. Looking forward to seeing the Plasma 6 stuff roll in and of course will check the apt output before letting d-u proceed :)
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: seasons on 2024/11/21, 21:19:14
Did thumbnails in Dolphin break for anyone else? I've been using Plasma 6 in experimental for a couple months (I think?), but I was hoping this bug would resolve itself once everything hit unstable.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: DeepDayze on 2024/11/22, 01:19:35
Quote from: seasons on 2024/11/21, 21:19:14
Did thumbnails in Dolphin break for anyone else? I've been using Plasma 6 in experimental for a couple months (I think?), but I was hoping this bug would resolve itself once everything hit unstable.
I haven't seen any issues with thumbnails in Plasma 6 Dolphin as tested jpeg, webp, heif image formats. What file types are broken as far as thumbnails?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: whistler_mb on 2024/11/22, 08:24:45
I have been using plasma 6 for over a month and I have not seen any problems with the thumbnails in Dolphin.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: seasons on 2024/11/22, 14:48:45
Quote from: DeepDayze on 2024/11/22, 01:19:35
What file types are broken as far as thumbnails?

Everything. I tried toggling the setting off/on, and I may have tried clearing the user cache/config for Dolphin (I forget). But if it's just a problem on my system, I'm not going to worry about it. Thanks, folks.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: devil on 2024/11/23, 14:51:28
Plasma 6 is supposed to be trickling into unstable today or tomorrow. This will not happen all at once, which means you have to be very cautious with your full-upgrades.

The mail from the dev who does the upload goes like this:
QuoteDear fellow developers and Plasma users,

after some months living in experimental and lots of positive feedback, we're about to upload Plasma 6 to unstable.
The plans of the Qt / KDE team is to release Trixie with :
    - Qt 5 & 6
    - KDE Frameworks 5 aka KF5 (based on Qt 5) & KF6 (based on Qt6)
    - Plasma 6 (based on KF6 and Qt6)
    - KDE Gear applications of the moment. We expect to ship a mix of KF5 and KF6-based Gear applications depending on where upstream is with their porting effort of these mostly independent applications.

What we won't be supporting for Trixie are Plasma 5 libraries, so if you maintain rdeps of Plasma 5 libraries now is time to port them to Plasma 6 or to remove them from testing. We've filed bugs for all the rdeps not in our team's perimeter some weeks back [1]. We will be bumping their severity to RC in preparation the upload of Plasma 6 to unstable. We've tried our best to identify affected packages but we may have missed some so if you know your packages depend on Plasma and they're not in this list please do double check compatibility with Plasma 6.

There are cross-dependencies between some bits of Plasma, the accounts SSO stack, some KF5/6 libraries and some Gear apps, so expect some breakage in the online accounts functionality while the pieces are moving.

Also we currently don't have a satisfying way of ensuring the entirety of Plasma migrates to testing synchronously, so when Plasma 6 packages start migrating to testing you'll have to be extra careful with what your apt / Discover upgrades announce to avoid removing your desktop.


Happy hacking,
--
Patrick & Aurélien for the Qt/KDE Team
You have been warned :)
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: RunLevelZero on 2024/11/23, 15:19:50
[language=english]I doubt this is the case but I want to ask. I know wayland is what everyone is switching to so I'm wondering if when we upgrade to kde if we are switched to wayland automatically as a dependency in some way? I feel dumb asking but I need my remote sessions to continue working. Sounds like we are just a few days away at this point. It is still safe to do the normal upgrade not full-upgrade also?[/language]
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/11/23, 15:36:56
Use  apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade

This does not mean 100% security, but should get you through the changeover to Plasma 6 relatively safely over the next few days.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: hendrikL on 2024/11/23, 15:55:21
Quote
It is still safe to do the normal upgrade not full-upgrade also?
No, this will break your system sooner than later!

See the post above, use the option --solver 3.0, this is the way to go!
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: RunLevelZero on 2024/11/23, 15:59:24
[language=english]Thanks. This is what I usually run but in this case I would just do a upgrade and not full-upgrade. sudo apt update && sudo apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade. Normally this is safe during these types of changes but thus I don't want to break anything and therefore the question just to make sure my dumb a** doesn't do exactly that :).[/language]
Quote from: hendrikL on 2024/11/23, 15:55:21
Quote
It is still safe to do the normal upgrade not full-upgrade also?
No, this will break your system sooner than later!

See the post above, use the option --solver 3.0, this is the way to go!
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: RunLevelZero on 2024/11/23, 16:00:20
[language=english]Thank you very much.[/language]
Quote from: edlin on 2024/11/23, 15:36:56
Use  apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade

This does not mean 100% security, but should get you through the changeover to Plasma 6 relatively safely over the next few days.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: DeepDayze on 2024/11/23, 16:37:59
Quote from: edlin on 2024/11/23, 15:36:56
Use  apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade

This does not mean 100% security, but should get you through the changeover to Plasma 6 relatively safely over the next few days.

edlin
Absolutely. Just watch what the solver will ask to remove. If it's going to take out half your desktop then just wait a few days until the packages are all in.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: hendrikL on 2024/11/24, 00:11:46
@seasons
Quote from: seasons on 2024/11/22, 14:48:45
Quote from: DeepDayze on 2024/11/22, 01:19:35
What file types are broken as far as thumbnails?

Everything. I tried toggling the setting off/on, and I may have tried clearing the user cache/config for Dolphin (I forget). But if it's just a problem on my system, I'm not going to worry about it. Thanks, folks.


~$ LANG=C apt search thumbnails | grep [Ii]nstall

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

ffmpegthumbnailer/unstable,testing,now 2.2.3-2 amd64 [installed]
kdegraphics-thumbnailers/experimental,now 4:24.08.0-1 amd64 [installed]
libexiv2-28/unstable,testing,now 0.28.3+dfsg-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libffmpegthumbnailer4v5/unstable,testing,now 2.2.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/11/26, 09:36:29
Haltet die Augen offen, Plasma 6 rollt gerade herein. Achtet auf die Ausgabe von apt!
Die Verwendung von apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade ist momentan sicher, mit einem  apt full-upgrade  werden euch wohl einige Pakete gelöscht werden.

Nach den ersten Paketen ist die Situation etwas ernüchternd. Ich rate aus meiner Sicht momentan von einem Upgrade, auch einem einfachen apt upgrade, ab. Es fehlen wohl noch zuviele Pakete, um wieder ein brauchbares Plasma vorzufinden. Wer nicht basteln will, sollte aktuell noch ein wenig warten.


Keep your eyes peeled, Plasma 6 is rolling in. Watch out for the output of apt!
The use of apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade is currently safe, with an apt full-upgrade you will probably have some packages deleted.

After the first packages the situation is somewhat sobering. From my point of view, I currently advise against an upgrade, even a simple apt upgrade. There are probably still too many packages missing to find a usable Plasma again. If you don't want to tinker, you should wait a little longer.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Mte90 on 2024/11/26, 11:00:44
https://tracker.debian.org/news/1588198/accepted-plasma-desktop-4623-1-source-into-unstable/

Seems that since yesterday everything is on Sid.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: devil on 2024/11/26, 11:48:12
I highly doubt that. Your link says, it has been accepted into unstable. That does not mean it is fully uploaded.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Mte90 on 2024/11/26, 12:07:43
You are right.
I did the upgrade and I saw that some packages had issues:

```
Error: attenzione: impossibile eliminare la vecchia directory "/usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.battery/contents": Directory non vuota

Error: attenzione: impossibile eliminare la vecchia directory "/usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.battery": Directory non vuota

Error: libkdecorations2private10:amd64: problemi con le dipendenze, ma viene rimosso comunque:
libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64 dipende da libkdecorations2private10 (= 4:5.27.11-1+b1).
kwin-common dipende da libkdecorations2private10 (>= 4:5.27.11~).

Error: libkdecorations2-5v5:amd64: problemi con le dipendenze, ma viene rimosso comunque:
kwin-x11 dipende da libkdecorations2-5v5 (>= 4:5.27.11~).
kwin-common dipende da libkdecorations2-5v5 (>= 4:5.27.11~).
(Lettura del database...

Error: libkscreenlocker5:amd64: problemi con le dipendenze, ma viene rimosso comunque:
plasma-workspace dipende da libkscreenlocker5 (>= 5.27.11~).
kwin-common dipende da libkscreenlocker5 (>= 5.27.11~).
(Lettura del database...

Error: libkf5sysguard-data: problemi con le dipendenze, ma viene rimosso comunque:
libprocesscore9 dipende da libkf5sysguard-data (= 4:5.27.11-1).
liblsofui9 dipende da libkf5sysguard-data (= 4:5.27.11-1).
libksysguardsystemstats1 dipende da libkf5sysguard-data (= 4:5.27.11-1).
libksysguardsensors1 dipende da libkf5sysguard-data (= 4:5.27.11-1).
libksysguardsensorfaces1 dipende da libkf5sysguard-data (= 4:5.27.11-1).
libksysguardformatter1 dipende da libkf5sysguard-data (= 4:5.27.11-1).
libksgrd9 dipende da libkf5sysguard-data (= 4:5.27.11-1).

Error: attenzione: impossibile eliminare la vecchia directory "/usr/share/plasma/packages/org.kde.desktoptoolbox/contents": Directory non vuota

Error: attenzione: impossibile eliminare la vecchia directory "/usr/share/plasma/packages/org.kde.desktoptoolbox": Directory non vuota
Finished Successfully
```

It seems that only ksysguard is missing in my system right now.

libkdecorations2-5v5 seems that it was replaced by libkdecorations2-6 but not all the packages updated that.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: DeepDayze on 2024/11/26, 13:17:27
I noticed that and in my opinion it's best to wait for now as even an apt upgrade might still replace some packages which might cause some issues like @mte90 experienced.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: devil on 2024/11/26, 13:24:56
Yes, on a test system upgrade (not full-upgrade, no packages removed) killed system settings and info center among others. So please  keep that trigger finger in check for now :)
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/11/26, 15:55:10
Da geht gerade 'ne Menge vor ... :)


[15:44:46][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:~]$ apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade
OK:1 https://deb.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease
OK:2 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian trixie InRelease                                                           
OK:3 https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/siduction/extra unstable InRelease                                                   
OK:4 https://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable InRelease             
Aktualisierung für 171 Pakete verfügbar. Führen Sie »apt list --upgradable« aus, um sie anzuzeigen.
Upgrading:                                         
  bluedevil              kactivitymanagerd             kwayland-integration  libc6-i386                 libkf5plasmaquick5            libpowerdevilcore2         linux-cpupower                   plasma-discover-common    powerdevil-data        remmina-plugin-vnc
  breeze                 kde-cli-tools                 kwin-addons           libcpupower1               libkf6archive-data            libqt5designer5            linux-libc-dev                   plasma-disks              python-apt-common      sddm
  breeze-cursor-theme    kde-cli-tools-data            kwin-common           libgoa-1.0-0b              libkf6archive6                libqt5help5                locales                          plasma-framework          python3-apt            sddm-theme-breeze
  breeze-gtk-theme       kde-config-gtk-style          kwin-data             libgoa-1.0-common          libkf6breezeicons6            libqt5keychain1            milou                            plasma-integration        python3-parso          signon-plugin-oauth2
  desktop-file-utils     kde-config-gtk-style-preview  kwin-style-breeze     libgtk-4-1                 libmagick++-7.q16-5           libqt6multimedia6          nodejs                           plasma-nm                 python3-talloc         systemsettings
  dnsmasq-base           kde-config-screenlocker       kwin-wayland          libgtk-4-bin               libmagickcore-7.q16-10        libqt6multimediawidgets6   ovmf                             plasma-pa                 python3-tqdm           tree
  drkonqi                kde-config-sddm               kwin-x11              libgtk-4-common            libmagickcore-7.q16-10-extra  libqt6spatialaudio6        oxygen-sounds                    plasma-runners-addons     python3-wheel          wodim
  fwupd                  kde-config-updates            kwrited               libgtk-4-media-gstreamer   libmagickwand-7.q16-10        librist4                   perl                             plasma-systemmonitor      python3-zeroconf       xdg-desktop-portal-kde
  genisoimage            kde-style-breeze              layer-shell-qt        libimage-magick-perl       libmailtools-perl             libseccomp2                perl-base                        plasma-thunderbolt        qdbus-qt5              zenity
  gir1.2-soup-3.0        kde-style-oxygen-qt5          libadwaita-1-0        libimage-magick-q16-perl   libnode115                    libsignon-plugins-common1  perl-modules-5.40                plasma-vault              r-cran-deoptimr        zenity-common
  gir1.2-vte-2.91        kdeplasma-addons-data         libc-bin              libkf5archive-data         libnotificationmanager1       libsoup-3.0-0              plasma-browser-integration       plasma-wallpapers-addons  r-cran-knitr
  gtk-update-icon-cache  kf6-breeze-icon-theme         libc-dev-bin          libkf5archive5             libopenal-data                libsoup-3.0-common         plasma-dataengines-addons        plasma-widgets-addons     r-cran-quantreg
  imagemagick            kinfocenter                   libc-devtools         libkf5globalaccel-bin      libopenal1                    libtalloc2                 plasma-desktop                   plasma-workspace          r-cran-waldo
  imagemagick-7-common   kmenuedit                     libc-l10n             libkf5globalaccel-data     libpam-kwallet-common         libvte-2.91-0              plasma-desktop-data              plasma-workspace-data     remmina
  imagemagick-7.q16      kscreen                       libc6                 libkf5globalaccel5         libpam-kwallet5               libvte-2.91-common         plasma-discover                  plocate                   remmina-common
  iwd                    ksshaskpass                   libc6:i386            libkf5globalaccelprivate5  libperl5.40                   libwbclient0               plasma-discover-backend-flatpak  polkit-kde-agent-1        remmina-plugin-rdp
  kaccounts-providers    ksystemstats                  libc6-dev             libkf5plasma5              libperl5.40:i386              libweather-ion7            plasma-discover-backend-fwupd    powerdevil                remmina-plugin-secret

Installing dependencies:
  breeze-wallpaper           libkf6bookmarks6         libkf6package-data             libkf6texteditor-katepart  libksysguardformatter2            libqcoro6dbus0t64            power-profiles-daemon                          qml6-module-org-kde-notifications
  clinfo                     libkf6bookmarkswidgets6  libkf6package6                 libkf6texteditor6          libksysguardsensorfaces2          libqmobipocket6-2            qdbus-qt6                                      qml6-module-org-kde-pipewire
  frameworkintegration6      libkf6calendarevents6    libkf6parts-data               libkf6textwidgets-data     libksysguardsensors2              libqt5hunspellinputmethod5   qml6-module-org-kde-activities                 qml6-module-org-kde-plasma-plasma5support
  kde-style-oxygen-qt6       libkf6declarative-data   libkf6parts6                   libkf6textwidgets6         libksysguardsystemstats2          libqt6positioning6-plugins   qml6-module-org-kde-baloo                      qml6-module-org-kde-quickcharts
  kglobalacceld              libkf6filemetadata-bin   libkf6pty-data                 libkf6unitconversion-data  libkwaylandclient6                libqt6positioningquick6      qml6-module-org-kde-breeze                     qml6-module-org-kde-sonnet
  kirigami-addons-data       libkf6filemetadata-data  libkf6pty6                     libkf6unitconversion6      libkwin6                          libqt6quick3d6               qml6-module-org-kde-coreaddons                 qml6-module-org-kde-syntaxhighlighting
  kpackagetool6              libkf6filemetadata3      libkf6pulseaudioqt5            libkf6userfeedback-data    libkworkspace6-6                  libqt6quick3druntimerender6  qml6-module-org-kde-desktop                    qml6-module-org-kde-userfeedback
  kwayland6-data             libkf6globalaccel-data   libkf6qqc2desktopstyle-data    libkf6userfeedback-doc     liblayershellqtinterface6         libqt6quick3dutils6          qml6-module-org-kde-draganddrop                qml6-module-qt-labs-platform
  libaccounts-qt6-1          libkf6globalaccel6       libkf6runner6                  libkf6userfeedbackcore6    liboxygenstyle5-6                 libqt6sensors6               qml6-module-org-kde-graphicaleffects           qml6-module-qt-labs-qmlmodels
  libappstreamqt3            libkf6holidays-data      libkf6screen8                  libkf6xmlgui-data          liboxygenstyle6-6                 libqt6serialport6            qml6-module-org-kde-iconthemes                 qml6-module-qt5compat-graphicaleffects
  libbatterycontrol6         libkf6holidays6          libkf6screendpms8              libkf6xmlgui6              liboxygenstyleconfig6-6           libqt6shadertools6           qml6-module-org-kde-kholidays                  qml6-module-qtmultimedia
  libcolorcorrect6           libkf6i18nlocaledata6    libkf6sonnet-data              libkfontinst6              libpackagekitqt6-1                libqt6uitools6               qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-components  qml6-module-qtpositioning
  libddcutil5                libkf6idletime6          libkf6sonnetcore6              libkfontinstui6            libphonon4qt6-4t64                libqt6virtualkeyboard6       qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-datetime    qml6-module-qtquick-effects
  libdisplay-info2           libkf6itemmodels6        libkf6sonnetui6                libkglobalacceld0          libplasma-geolocation-interface6  libqt6webview6               qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-delegates   qml6-module-qtquick-virtualkeyboard
  libeis1                    libkf6kcmutils-bin       libkf6style6                   libklipper6                libplasma5support-data            libquickcharts1              qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-formcard    qml6-module-qtquick3d
  libfwupd3                  libkf6kcmutils6          libkf6su-bin                   libkmpris6                 libplasma5support6                libquickchartscontrols1      qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-tableview   qml6-module-qtwebchannel
  libkaccounts6-2            libkf6kiofilewidgets6    libkf6su-data                  libkpipewire-data          libplasma6                        libsignon-qt6-1              qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-treeview    qml6-module-qtwebengine
  libkdecorations2-6         libkf6modemmanagerqt6    libkf6su6                      libkpipewire6              libplasmaactivities6              libtaskmanager6              qml6-module-org-kde-kitemmodels                qml6-module-qtwebview
  libkdecorations2private11  libkf6networkmanagerqt6  libkf6svg6                     libkpipewiredmabuf6        libplasmaactivitiesstats1         ocean-sound-theme            qml6-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols             qtvirtualkeyboard-plugin
  libkexiv2qt6-0             libkf6newstuff-data      libkf6syndication6             libkpipewirerecord6        libplasmaquick6                   plasma-activities-bin        qml6-module-org-kde-ksvg                       sonnet6-plugins
  libkf6attica6              libkf6newstuffcore6      libkf6syntaxhighlighting-data  libkscreen-bin             libpoppler-qt6-3t64               plasma-desktop-doc           qml6-module-org-kde-ksysguard                  wayland-utils
  libkf6baloo6               libkf6newstuffwidgets6   libkf6syntaxhighlighting6      libkscreen-data            libprocesscore10                  plasma-desktoptheme          qml6-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem
  libkf6balooengine6         libkf6notifyconfig-data  libkf6texteditor-bin           libkscreenlocker6          libqaccessibilityclient-qt6-0     plasma-workspace-doc         qml6-module-org-kde-networkmanager
  libkf6bookmarks-data       libkf6notifyconfig6      libkf6texteditor-data          libksysguard-data          libqcoro6core0t64                 plasma5-integration          qml6-module-org-kde-newstuff

Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
  hspell

Not upgrading:
  libldb2  libsmbclient0  libunwind8  ppp  python3-samba  samba-common  samba-common-bin  samba-libs

REMOVING:
  libkdecorations2-5v5  libkf5sysguard-data  libksgrd9               libksysguardsensorfaces1  libksysguardsystemstats1  libprocessui9             qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard
  libkf5screen-bin      libkscreenlocker5    libksysguardformatter1  libksysguardsensors1      libprocesscore9           plasma-workspace-wayland

Summary:
  Upgrading: 163, Installing: 189, Removing: 13, Not Upgrading: 8
  Download size: 279 MB
  Space needed: 162 MB / 330 GB available

Continue? [J/n] n
Abbruch.


Edlin hat Recht ... Warten ist angezeigt.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Mte90 on 2024/11/27, 11:13:37
Right now the system doesn't start after the upgrade as it is right now.

The issues in my case are about wayland as I had Xorg, so the DE crash.
I have in the logs this kind of errors:
2024-11-27T10:07:42.417147+01:00 KITT org.kde.yakuake[5558]: Failed to create wl_display (No such file or directory)
2024-11-27T10:07:42.460579+01:00 KITT org.kde.yakuake[5558]: qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "wayland" in "" even though it was found.
2024-11-27T10:07:42.473694+01:00 KITT org.kde.yakuake[5558]: qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display :1
2024-11-27T10:07:42.473815+01:00 KITT org.kde.yakuake[5558]: qt.qpa.plugin: From 6.5.0, xcb-cursor0 or libxcb-cursor0 is needed to load the Qt xcb platform plugin.
2024-11-27T10:07:42.473879+01:00 KITT org.kde.yakuake[5558]: qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even though it was found.
2024-11-27T10:07:42.478619+01:00 KITT org.kde.yakuake[5558]: This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.
2024-11-27T10:07:42.478764+01:00 KITT org.kde.yakuake[5558]: Available platform plugins are: vkkhrdisplay, vnc, wayland-egl, eglfs, minimal, linuxfb, offscreen, wayland, xcb, minimalegl.


I am trying to understand how to fix it.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Mte90 on 2024/11/27, 11:38:37
So to fix it in case someone else has the same issue.

I have the nvidia driver but you need to turn them on in the kernel with a parameter in the grub file.
I also disabled the autologin on sddm in this way I was able to check better what was happening.

Right now seems that everything works including systemsettings but there isn't the ksysguard on Ctrl+Esc.
Ksysguard for who is asking was deprecated in KF6 and now there is a new "system-monitor" that to open it requires Meta+Esc so the shortcut is changed.

Also doens't start yakuake because: kf.coreaddons: "Could not find plugin kf6/parts/konsolepart"
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Mte90 on 2024/11/27, 12:01:32
So to fix yakuake you can use the experimental package for konsole and works:

apt install konsole-kpart -t experimental
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/11/27, 13:03:24
Quote from: Mte90 on 2024/11/27, 11:38:37
... it requires Meta+Esc so the shortcut is changed.

Maybe a silly question ... but what is (the) Meta (key)?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/11/27, 13:08:06
Quote from: Isegrimm666 on 2024/11/27, 13:03:24
Quote from: Mte90 on 2024/11/27, 11:38:37
... it requires Meta+Esc so the shortcut is changed.

Maybe a silly question ... but what is (the) Meta (key)?

Self-Answer: I think the [Windows]-Key is meant. :)
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: dibl on 2024/11/27, 13:24:44
Quote from: Mte90 on 2024/11/27, 11:13:37
Right now the system doesn't start after the upgrade as it is right now.

The issues in my case are about wayland as I had Xorg, so the DE crash.

Correct. Here, I beat up my spare KDE/Plasma system this morning to see if I could make it work.  Short answer, YES.

plasma-workspace-wayland is not yet upgraded, so it gets removed by the new plasma-workspace. If your system is set to auto login the user to a Plasma wayland session, you get no login and no gui. If you use tty1, aka multi-user.target, as root and dbus-launch sddm, then you can change the session type to Plasma X11, and login, and you have the gui.

A quick check of my other normally used packages (2 browsers, qemu/KVM, LibreOffice, systemsettings) does not find any problems.  Here is the hardware:

CPU:
  Info: quad core model: Intel Core i7-7740X bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
    L2: 1024 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/4500 cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800
    5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP106 [GeForce GTX 1060 6GB] driver: nvidia v: 550.127.05
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.14 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.4 driver: X:
    loaded: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa
    gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: 1: 1920x1200~60Hz
    2: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: nvidia,swrast platforms: x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 550.127.05
    renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2
  API: Vulkan v: 1.3.296 drivers: N/A surfaces: xcb,xlib

Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/11/27, 16:58:58
Es sieht schon ganz gut aus. Ich habe komplettes apt full-upgrade eingespielt, kein Paket zurückgehalten. Sogar ppp und network-manager sind durch. Unter KDE/Plasma (X11) konnte ich keine Probleme mehr feststellen. Lediglich SDDM kommt nicht mehr mit jedem Thema klar. Es gibt aber einige Themen, die unter Plasma 6 ihren Dienst klaglos verrichten (zum Beispiel ,,KDE-Story-Dark-SDDM-6").

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: DeepDayze on 2024/11/27, 17:09:24
Quote from: edlin on 2024/11/27, 16:58:58
Es sieht schon ganz gut aus. Ich habe komplettes apt full-upgrade eingespielt, kein Paket zurückgehalten. Sogar ppp und network-manager sind durch. Unter KDE/Plasma (X11) konnte ich keine Probleme mehr feststellen. Lediglich SDDM kommt nicht mehr mit jedem Thema klar. Es gibt aber einige Themen, die unter Plasma 6 ihren Dienst klaglos verrichten (zum Beispiel ,,KDE-Story-Dark-SDDM-6").

edlin

Used Google Translate to read your post and SDDM most likely needs to change the theme as qt5 themes don't work anymore so select a qt6 compatible theme or the sddm breeze theme.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: xerol on 2024/11/27, 19:11:36
In Dolphin fehlt das Terminal:

QuoteTerminal cannot be shown because Konsole is not installed. Please install it and then reopen the panel.

Passen da eventuell die Versionen von Konsole und Dolphin nicht zusammen?

ii  konsole                                                  4:24.08.0-2
ii  konsole-kpart                                            4:24.08.0-2

ii  dolphin                                                  4:23.08.1-1+b3
ii  libdolphinvcs5:amd64                                     4:23.08.1-1+b3
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/11/27, 19:39:20
@xerol
Bei mir öffnet sich mit Shift-F4 ganz normal die Konsole. Beides, Dolphin und Konsole, haben die gleichen Versionsnummern wie bei dir. Auf zwei Systenen mit KDE/Plasma (X11) getestet.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: xerol on 2024/11/28, 08:41:51
Quote from: edlin on 2024/11/27, 19:39:20
@xerol
Bei mir öffnet sich mit Shift-F4 ganz normal die Konsole. Beides, Dolphin und Konsole, haben die gleichen Versionsnummern wie bei dir. Auf zwei Systenen mit KDE/Plasma (X11) getestet.

edlin

Das geht bei mir auch, aber ich meine das integrierte Terminal, welches man mit F4 oder Menu/View/Show Panels/Terminal erreicht.

(hier übrigens auch X11)
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: devil on 2024/11/28, 09:09:17
Dazu fehlt noch ein neues Dolphin, kommt vermutlich heute.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: xerol on 2024/11/28, 11:26:51
Quote from: devil on 2024/11/28, 09:09:17
Dazu fehlt noch ein neues Dolphin, kommt vermutlich heute.

Danke für die Bestätigung.
Soetwas hatte ich aufgrund der Versionsnummern vermutet. Ansonsten scheint alles soweit zu laufen.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: ruebe99 on 2024/11/28, 14:30:23
Looks good, I just had to run tasksel due to some annoying KDE problems. Is it possible that Dolphin has lost its ability to fish in the meantime?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Mte90 on 2024/11/28, 15:15:14
what do you mean with fish?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/11/28, 15:33:27
Noch ein kleines Problem. Ich öffne normalerweise mc (Midnight Commander) in der konsole.
Jetzt lässt sich mc nicht mehr mit F10 schließen, da konsole F10 für sein Menü als Tastenkürzel benutzt. Lässt sich anpassen (betrifft auch noch andere Einstellungen) ist aber ärgerlich.

Insgesamt bereitet Plasma 6 aber keine großen Probleme.


Another small problem. I normally open mc (Midnight Commander) in konsole.
Now mc can no longer be closed with F10, because konsole uses F10 as a keyboard shortcut for its menu. Can be customised (also affects other settings) but is annoying.

Overall, however, Plasma 6 does not cause any major problems.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/11/28, 16:24:57
Kann man jetzt ein fu + solver ablaufen lassen ... oder ist es noch kritisch?

Ich hab vorhin gesehen, das er ca. 12 Pakete löschen will, von denen ich für 6 keine Entsprechungen in den Upgrades und den Dependencies gefunden habe.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Cefdinir71 on 2024/11/28, 17:04:05
Hallo,

d-u hat hier grundsätzlich funktioniert, aber...

... nach dem Neustart waren in der Kontrollleiste nur noch die Programm-Icons vorhanden, die ich zuvor manuell dort abgelegt hatte. Der Anwendungsstarter hatte sämtliche Menüs und Programme vergessen. Er wurde angezeigt, war aber leer.

Abhilfe:
Einmal per konsole den KDE-Menü-Editor starten und auf Werksteinstellungen zurücksetzen. Schon waren alle Programme wieder da.

Das Problem mit Dolphin und der nicht installierten Konsole (F4) kann ich bestätigen, auch hier gibt es abweichende Versionsnummern.

Grüße
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/11/28, 17:18:39
@Isegrimm666
Aus meiner Sicht (drei Installationen) kann man derzeit den Umstieg auf Plasma 6 durchaus wagen. Es zerstört das KDE/Plasma Universum nicht. Aber es gibt halt ein paar Baustellen, wo man selbst Hand anlegen oder abwarten muss (SDDM, Dolphin etc.).

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: ruebe99 on 2024/11/28, 18:52:57
the fish protocol is used in the ssh connection to another system/IP. for reasons given I had some probs to connect dolphin to another IP.
"fish://<user>:ip:/path"
after a reboot, the issue disappeared

cheers
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: thomv on 2024/11/29, 11:23:55
Quote from: edlin on 2024/11/27, 16:58:58
... Unter KDE/Plasma (X11) konnte ich keine Probleme mehr feststellen. Lediglich SDDM kommt nicht mehr mit jedem Thema klar. ....
nach Full-Upgrade gestern Abend funktioniert bisher auch unter Wayland alles. Lediglich SDDDM hat nur das Standardtheme (ist aber auch nicht wirklich dringend).
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/11/29, 12:19:48
Für den Anmeldebildschirm gibt es bei SDDM 3 Möglichkeiten:
edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: thomv on 2024/11/29, 12:56:17
Die Anleitung von Teriarch habe ich gesehen, aber noch nicht probiert. Da brauche ich doch mehr Zeit, weil ich noch einiges über die Arbeit "unter der Motorhaube" lerne. Die Variante 2 klingt da schon einfacher.
Danke.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/11/30, 08:50:50
UPDATE 2024-11-30:

Guten Morgen ...

Ich habe eben nochmal ein 'doas apt update && doas apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade' gestartet:

(Ich kann die Ausgabe hier nicht posten, deshalb Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/QsZsaykG (https://pastebin.com/QsZsaykG) )

Danach habe ich die zu löschenden Pakete hinsichtlich ihrer Ersetzungen gecheckt:


REMOVING:

Werden ersetzt durch:
libkdecorations2-5v5 --> libkdecorations2-6
libksysguardsensorfaces1 --> libksysguardsensorfaces2
libksysguardsystemstats1 --> libksysguardsystemstats2 
libprocesscore9 --> libprocesscore10
kgamma5 --> kgamma
libkf5screen-bin --> libks --> libkscreenlocker6 
libksysguardformatter1 --> libksysguardformatter2
libksysguardsensors1 --> libksysguardsensors2
libopenmpi3t64 --> libopenmpi40

Ist das eine Ersetzung?
libkf5sysguard-data --> libksysguard-data (?)

Keine Ersetzung gefunden:
libprocessui9 --> N/A
plasma-workspace-wayland --> N/A
calculix-ccx --> N/A
libksgrd9 --> N/A
libspooles2.2t64 --> N/A
qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard --> N/A


Jetzt weiß ich nicht, ob hier die letzten 6 Pakete, für die ich nichts fand,  in denen, die upgegraded oder als Abhängigkeiten hinzu installiert werden, aufgelöst werden, also obsolet sind, bzw. das eine Paket wirklich durch das gezeigte upgegraded wird.

Als Vergleich habe ich danach ein 'doas apt update && doas apt --solver 3.0 upgrade' gestartet:

(Ich kann auch diese Ausgabe hier nicht posten, deshalb nochmal Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/xLPDPenY (https://pastebin.com/xLPDPenY) )

Jetzt werden keine Pakete zum Löschen angemerkt, es finden nur keine Upgrades statt.

Sollte ich das Upgrade, also das 'einfache' upgrade, riskieren?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: devil on 2024/11/30, 09:01:04
plasma-workspace-wayland ist obsolet. Wurde mit plasma-workspace zusammengeführt.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/11/30, 11:44:44
@Isegrimm666: Ic habe gerade bei mir geschaut: Die zu entfernenden Pakete sind bei mir nicht (mehr) installiert oder gibt es nicht mehr als Installationskandidat. Ein full-upgrade sollte keine Probleme machen.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: titan on 2024/11/30, 12:29:25
edlin   What about all the auto removable packages. is it safe to remove them

Plasma 6 installed OK yesterday everything works as expected apart from screen brightness, screen seem dull but there is a new widget for brightness and colour which solved that issue.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/11/30, 12:39:37
@titan: I did an apt autopurge and removed probably over 60 old packages - no problems so far.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: whistler_mb on 2024/11/30, 12:51:32
Quote from: titan on 2024/11/30, 12:29:25
Plasma 6 installed OK yesterday everything works as expected apart from screen brightness, screen seem dull but there is a new widget for brightness and colour which solved that issue.

The brightness thing is quite annoying.
Especially if the monitor does not support brightness changes via software.

I had been looking for the solution for a while.

If you open the Systray, there is an item "brightness and color". Here you can set the brightness for each monitor.

Unfortunately, the brightness is sometimes dimmed again after a restart.



Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/11/30, 17:27:05
Quote from: edlin on 2024/11/30, 11:44:44
@Isegrimm666: Ic habe gerade bei mir geschaut: Die zu entfernenden Pakete sind bei mir nicht (mehr) installiert oder gibt es nicht mehr als Installationskandidat. Ein full-upgrade sollte keine Probleme machen.

edlin

Habe jetzt ein full-upgrade mit solver gemacht ... und es ist nichts 'gravierendes' passiert. Nach dem Upgrade habe ich den Rechner auch runtergefahren und - nach einer gewissen Zeit - wieder neu gestartet. Alles lief normal ... bis auf zwei Dinge:

1. Firefox
Der Firefox geht nicht mehr komplett auf: Das heisst ... das Firefox-Fenster geht komplett auf ... aber die Seite wird nur - verkleinert - in oberen linken Viertel dargestellt. Konqueror funktioniert normal ... andere Anwendungen auch.

Screenshot: https://ibb.co/RjJPWKg (https://ibb.co/RjJPWKg)

2. Wine-Schlüssel
Um zu sehen, ob noch etwas im Nachgang als upgrade anliegt, habe ich das full-upgrade noch einmal gestartet ... und erhielt folgende Fehlermeldung:


Aktualisierung für 20 Pakete verfügbar. Führen Sie »apt list --upgradable« aus, um sie anzuzeigen.
Warning: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/dists/trixie/InRelease: The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/keyrings/winehq-archive.key are ignored as the file has an unsupported filetype.
Warning: Während der Überprüfung der Signatur trat ein Fehler auf. Das Depot wurde nicht aktualisiert und die vorherigen Indexdateien werden verwendet. GPG-Fehler: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian trixie InRelease: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 76F1A20FF987672F
Warning: Fehlschlag beim Holen von https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/dists/trixie/InRelease Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 76F1A20FF987672F
Warning: Einige Indexdateien konnten nicht heruntergeladen werden. Sie wurden ignoriert oder alte an ihrer Stelle benutzt.


Ich hab dann mal nachgesehen:


[17:05:42][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:~]$ apt-key list
Warning: apt-key is deprecated. Manage keyring files in trusted.gpg.d instead (see apt-key(8)).
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-bookworm-automatic.asc
------------------------------------------------------------
pub   rsa4096 2023-01-21 [SC] [verfällt: 2031-01-19]
      B8B8 0B5B 623E AB6A D877  5C45 B7C5 D7D6 3509 47F8
uid        [ unbekannt ] Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (12/bookworm) <ftpmaster@debian.org>
sub   rsa4096 2023-01-21 [S] [verfällt: 2031-01-19]

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-bookworm-security-automatic.asc
---------------------------------------------------------------------
pub   rsa4096 2023-01-21 [SC] [verfällt: 2031-01-19]
      05AB 9034 0C0C 5E79 7F44  A8C8 254C F3B5 AEC0 A8F0
uid        [ unbekannt ] Debian Security Archive Automatic Signing Key (12/bookworm) <ftpmaster@debian.org>
sub   rsa4096 2023-01-21 [S] [verfällt: 2031-01-19]

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-bookworm-stable.asc
---------------------------------------------------------
pub   ed25519 2023-01-23 [SC] [verfällt: 2031-01-21]
      4D64 FEC1 19C2 0290 67D6  E791 F8D2 585B 8783 D481
uid        [ unbekannt ] Debian Stable Release Key (12/bookworm) <debian-release@lists.debian.org>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-bullseye-automatic.asc
------------------------------------------------------------
pub   rsa4096 2021-01-17 [SC] [verfällt: 2029-01-15]
      1F89 983E 0081 FDE0 18F3  CC96 73A4 F27B 8DD4 7936
uid        [ unbekannt ] Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (11/bullseye) <ftpmaster@debian.org>
sub   rsa4096 2021-01-17 [S] [verfällt: 2029-01-15]

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-bullseye-security-automatic.asc
---------------------------------------------------------------------
pub   rsa4096 2021-01-17 [SC] [verfällt: 2029-01-15]
      AC53 0D52 0F2F 3269 F5E9  8313 A484 4904 4AAD 5C5D
uid        [ unbekannt ] Debian Security Archive Automatic Signing Key (11/bullseye) <ftpmaster@debian.org>
sub   rsa4096 2021-01-17 [S] [verfällt: 2029-01-15]

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-bullseye-stable.asc
---------------------------------------------------------
pub   rsa4096 2021-02-13 [SC] [verfällt: 2029-02-11]
      A428 5295 FC7B 1A81 6000  62A9 605C 66F0 0D6C 9793
uid        [ unbekannt ] Debian Stable Release Key (11/bullseye) <debian-release@lists.debian.org>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-buster-automatic.asc
----------------------------------------------------------
pub   rsa4096 2019-04-14 [SC] [verfällt: 2027-04-12]
      80D1 5823 B7FD 1561 F9F7  BCDD DC30 D7C2 3CBB ABEE
uid        [ unbekannt ] Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (10/buster) <ftpmaster@debian.org>
sub   rsa4096 2019-04-14 [S] [verfällt: 2027-04-12]

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-buster-security-automatic.asc
-------------------------------------------------------------------
pub   rsa4096 2019-04-14 [SC] [verfällt: 2027-04-12]
      5E61 B217 265D A980 7A23  C5FF 4DFA B270 CAA9 6DFA
uid        [ unbekannt ] Debian Security Archive Automatic Signing Key (10/buster) <ftpmaster@debian.org>
sub   rsa4096 2019-04-14 [S] [verfällt: 2027-04-12]

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-buster-stable.asc
-------------------------------------------------------
pub   rsa4096 2019-02-05 [SC] [verfällt: 2027-02-03]
      6D33 866E DD8F FA41 C014  3AED DCC9 EFBF 77E1 1517
uid        [ unbekannt ] Debian Stable Release Key (10/buster) <debian-release@lists.debian.org>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/siduction-archive-keyring.gpg
----------------------------------------------------
pub   rsa4096 2011-09-19 [SC] [verfällt: 2031-09-14]
      3B6A 4D7E 8F67 8E29 31D5  A137 15CB D880 45C4 5076
uid        [ unbekannt ] Siduction Repository (The Siduction Repository) <repository@siduction.org>
sub   rsa4096 2011-09-19 [E] [verfällt: 2031-09-14]


Alle Schlüssel sind nicht verfallen und "ja" ... ich sehe keinen, was mich wundert.

Wie krieg ich beides wieder hin?

UPDATE 17:45h:
Auch der Tor-Browser funktioniert einwandfrei. Ein apt install --reinstall firefox brachte auch nix.

UPDATE 18:00h:
Ich habe jetzt den FF-ESR installiert und der zeigt wieder ein normales Verhalten ...

Es bleibt nur noch das Key-Problem ...
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Teriarch on 2024/11/30, 19:06:49
@Isegrimm666

< Es bleibt nur noch das Key-Problem ...

sudo wget -O /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive.key https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key

hth
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Teriarch on 2024/11/30, 19:14:13
@Isegrimm666

P.S. And for good measure:

$ sudo mv /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive.key /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive_key.gpg
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/11/30, 19:45:37
Hi Teriarch ...

Irgendwas hat da jetzt nicht geklappt


[19:42:18][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:~]$ doas wget -O /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive.key https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key
--2024-11-30 19:43:20--  https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key
Auflösen des Hostnamens dl.winehq.org (dl.winehq.org)... 2a04:4e42:200::729, 2a04:4e42::729, 2a04:4e42:600::729, ...
Verbindungsaufbau zu dl.winehq.org (dl.winehq.org)|2a04:4e42:200::729|:443 ... verbunden.
HTTP-Anforderung gesendet, auf Antwort wird gewartet ... 200 OK
Länge: 3212 (3,1K) [application/pgp-keys]
Wird in »/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive.key« gespeichert.

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive.key                    100%[===========================================================================================================================================>]   3,14K  --.-KB/s    in 0s     

2024-11-30 19:43:20 (29,5 MB/s) - »/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive.key« gespeichert [3212/3212]

[19:43:20][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:~]$ doas apt update && doas apt upgrade
OK:1 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian trixie InRelease
OK:2 https://deb.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease                                             
Fehl:1 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian trixie InRelease                                 
  Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 76F1A20FF987672F
OK:3 https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/siduction/extra unstable InRelease     
OK:4 https://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable InRelease
Aktualisierung für 20 Pakete verfügbar. Führen Sie »apt list --upgradable« aus, um sie anzuzeigen.
Warning: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/dists/trixie/InRelease: The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/keyrings/winehq-archive.key are ignored as the file has an unsupported filetype.
Warning: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/dists/trixie/InRelease: The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive_key.gpg are ignored as the file has an unsupported filetype.
Warning: Während der Überprüfung der Signatur trat ein Fehler auf. Das Depot wurde nicht aktualisiert und die vorherigen Indexdateien werden verwendet. GPG-Fehler: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian trixie InRelease: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 76F1A20FF987672F
Warning: https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/InRelease: The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive_key.gpg are ignored as the file has an unsupported filetype.
Warning: https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/siduction/extra/dists/unstable/InRelease: The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive_key.gpg are ignored as the file has an unsupported filetype.
Warning: https://packages.siduction.org/fixes/dists/unstable/InRelease: The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive_key.gpg are ignored as the file has an unsupported filetype.
Warning: Fehlschlag beim Holen von https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/dists/trixie/InRelease Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 76F1A20FF987672F
Warning: Einige Indexdateien konnten nicht heruntergeladen werden. Sie wurden ignoriert oder alte an ihrer Stelle benutzt.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Teriarch on 2024/11/30, 21:42:08
Hi Isegrimm666,

> Irgendwas hat da jetzt nicht geklappt

> Warning: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/dists/trixie/InRelease:
> The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive_key.gpg are ignored
> as the file has an unsupported filetype.

O.K. Schau'n wir genauer:

$ gpg --show-key winehq-archive.key.gpg:
      pub   rsa3072 2018-12-10 [SC]
            D43F640145369C51D786DDEA76F1A20FF987672F
      uid                      WineHQ packages <wine-devel@winehq.org>
      sub   rsa3072 2018-12-10 [E]
$ file winehq-archive.key.gpg:
      winehq-archive.key.gpg: PGP public key block Public-Key (old)

(versuch' das zunächst, um Fehler bei der Dateiübertragung auszuschließen)
Das erste Kommando zeigt, dass die Datei eine valide gpg Datei ist, und das zweite
Kommando weist sie als Datei älteren gpg (pgp) Typs nach. Diese wurden
früher auch mit der Endung ".asc" versehen. Es lohnt sich jedenfalls, sie zunächst mit

$ sudo mv winehq-archive.key.gpg winehq-archive.key.asc

umzubenennen und den update nochmal zu versuchen. Ich fürchte aber, dass dieses
Vorgehen nicht zielführend ist. Meine Vermutung ist, dass nach der Aktualisierung von apt
das alte Dateiformat nicht länger akzeptiert wird. Darauf deutet auch Deine Fehlermeldung hin.

Machen wir also einen Vergleich mit offensichtlich akzeptierten Formaten:

$ gpg --show-key /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-bullseye-automatic.gpg:
      pub   rsa4096 2021-01-17 [SC] [verfällt: 2029-01-15]
            1F89983E0081FDE018F3CC9673A4F27B8DD47936
      uid                      Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (11/bullseye) <ftpmaster@debian.org>
      sub   rsa4096 2021-01-17 [verfällt: 2029-01-15]

$ file /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-bullseye-automatic.gpg:
      /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-bullseye-automatic.gpg:
      OpenPGP Public Key Version 4, Created Sun Jan 17 11:18:36 2021,
      RSA (Encrypt or Sign, 4096 bits); Signature; Signature; OpenPGP Certificate

Wie Du siehst, erzeugt das zweite Kommando einen anderen output. Wir sollten also
veruchen die (von Dir bereits umbenannte) Datei winehq-archive.key.asc in das neue
Format zu konvertieren:

$ sudo gpg -o winehq-archive.key.gpg --dearmor winehq-archive.key.asc

Und siehe da:

$ file winehq-archive.key.gpg:
      winehq-archive.key.gpg: OpenPGP Public Key Version 4,
      Created Mon Dec 10 16:56:24 2018, RSA (Encrypt or Sign, 3072 bits);
      User ID; Signature; OpenPGP Certificate

Jetzt kannst Du nochmal den Update versuchen und über den Ausgang berichten.

HTH
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Teriarch on 2024/11/30, 21:51:12
P.S.: Ignorier' die missglückte Formatierung im letzten Teil meines Beitrags!
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: dibl on 2024/11/30, 23:50:19
Quote from: devil on 2024/11/30, 09:01:04
plasma-workspace-wayland ist obsolet. Wurde mit plasma-workspace zusammengeführt.

Yes, this is interesting. It seems that wayland is now automatically selected for graphics hardware that is able to support it.

Residual issues here:

-- with dual monitors, the mouse cursor transition across the divide between monitors is shaky.

-- systemsettings -- autostart scripts (e.g. conky) are not working yet -- need to start manually

-- chromium browser is very jerky and some forms don't work at all

Nvidia graphics may be to blame for some of these ....
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: bad_aptitude on 2024/12/01, 00:45:00
Instead of using apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade,
would it be better to just wait a few days and do a regular dist-upgrade?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/01, 08:01:08
Quote from: Teriarch on 2024/11/30, 21:42:08
Hi Isegrimm666,

> Irgendwas hat da jetzt nicht geklappt

> Warning: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/dists/trixie/InRelease:
> The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive_key.gpg are ignored
> as the file has an unsupported filetype.

O.K. Schau'n wir genauer:

Moin Teriarch ...

In der Hoffnung Dich jetzt richtig verstanden zu haben, hier meine Tests:


[07:28:21][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:~]$ gpg --show-key winehq-archive.key.gpg
gpg: 'winehq-archive.key.gpg' kann nicht geöffnet werden: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden


Danach:

[07:28:25][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:~]$ file winehq-archive.key.gpg
winehq-archive.key.gpg: cannot open `winehq-archive.key.gpg' (No such file or directory)


Schlussendlich:

[07:29:00][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:~]$ gpg --show-key /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-bullseye-automatic.gpg
pub   rsa4096 2021-01-17 [SC] [verfällt: 2029-01-15]
      1F89983E0081FDE018F3CC9673A4F27B8DD47936
uid                      Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (11/bullseye) <ftpmaster@debian.org>
sub   rsa4096 2021-01-17 [S] [verfällt: 2029-01-15]


Wenn ich das jetzt richtig interpretiere, ist der key weg.

Also habe ich folgendes versucht:

[07:39:45][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:~]$ wget -nc https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key
--2024-12-01 07:41:29--  https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key
Auflösen des Hostnamens dl.winehq.org (dl.winehq.org)... 2a04:4e42:600::729, 2a04:4e42:200::729, 2a04:4e42:400::729, ...
Verbindungsaufbau zu dl.winehq.org (dl.winehq.org)|2a04:4e42:600::729|:443 ... verbunden.
HTTP-Anforderung gesendet, auf Antwort wird gewartet ... 200 OK
Länge: 3212 (3,1K) [application/pgp-keys]
Wird in »winehq.key« gespeichert.

winehq.key                                                   100%[===========================================================================================================================================>]   3,14K  --.-KB/s    in 0s     

2024-12-01 07:41:29 (24,5 MB/s) - »winehq.key« gespeichert [3212/3212]

[07:41:29][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:~]$ doas apt-key add winehq.key
Warning: apt-key is deprecated. Manage keyring files in trusted.gpg.d instead (see apt-key(8)).
OK
W: The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive_key.gpg are ignored as the file has an unsupported filetype.


(Der Tip hierzu kam aus dem Wine-Forum vom 08.09.2024)

Update 2024-12-01_09:44h:
Ich hab dazu mal einen Post in's 'Wine-Forum' gesetzt https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=39751 (https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=39751)
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/01, 10:38:54
@bad_aptitude
What do you want to wait for? apt dist-upgrade and apt full-upgrade do the same thing anyway. dist-upgrade is only still in apt for compatibility reasons.
I have been using apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade for months now without any problems. I see no reasons to wait for Godot at the moment, unless you want to collect a lot of packages for an upgrade.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Teriarch on 2024/12/01, 15:05:59
@Isegrimm666:

> $ gpg --show-key winehq-archive.key.gpg

Du must natürlich erst in das Verzeichnis wechseln, in dem sich die keys befinden, also:

$ cd /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/

Und zur Kontrolle:

$ pwd (print working directory)

Danach die Kommandos geben. Du kannst Dich immer erst mit

$ ls -la  winehq-archive.key.gpg

überzeugen, ob eine Datei auch vorhanden ist, bevor Du an ihr herumoperierst.

Und nochmal: gpg Schlüssel, die sich mit dem "file" Kommando  als "PGP public key block Public-Key (old)"
ergeben, müssen auf ".asc" enden (Das steht für ASCII und lässt sich per mail als Text Datei übertragen).
gpg Schlüssel der Form  "OpenPGP Public Key Version 4" hingegen müssen auf ".gpg" enden, und das
ist bei Deiner herunter geladenen Datei "winehq.key" halt nicht der Fall. Deswegen musst Du zunächst den
Typ der Datei bestimmen (mit "file"), und anschließend mit dem "sudo mv" Kommando (oder als Root User) die Datei
entsprechend umbenennen.

Und ganz nebenbei: Es gibt im Netz sehr gute Tutorials, die Dich mit der "Werkzeugkiste" elementarer Linux
Kommandos (ls, lsof, ps, cd, mv, modprobe, etc) und der hierarchischen Struktur des Linux Dateisystems vertraut machen.
Wenn es Deine Zeit erlaubt, kann ein Blick darauf nicht schaden.

LG
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/01, 18:09:31
Okay ... die Botschaft ist angekommen ... und das ich jetzt vorher nicht die wd geändert hatte, ist schon ein bißchen peinlich :(

Ich habe also Deine Tips nochmal in der korrekten wd ablaufen lassen, was den Erfolg brachte, dass sich alle Fehlermeldungen bis auf eine reduzierten:

[17:42:25][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d]$ doas mv /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive.key /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/winehq-archive_key.gpg
[17:43:15][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d]$ gpg --show-key winehq-archive.key.gpg
gpg: 'winehq-archive.key.gpg' kann nicht geöffnet werden: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[17:43:51][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d]$ file winehq-archive.key.gpg
winehq-archive.key.gpg: cannot open `winehq-archive.key.gpg' (No such file or directory)
[17:44:22][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d]$ ls -la
insgesamt 100
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096  1. Dez 17:43 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root  4096  1. Dez 07:41 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11861 30. Jul 2023  debian-archive-bookworm-automatic.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11873 30. Jul 2023  debian-archive-bookworm-security-automatic.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   461 30. Jul 2023  debian-archive-bookworm-stable.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11861 30. Jul 2023  debian-archive-bullseye-automatic.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11873 30. Jul 2023  debian-archive-bullseye-security-automatic.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3403 30. Jul 2023  debian-archive-bullseye-stable.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11093 30. Jul 2023  debian-archive-buster-automatic.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11105 30. Jul 2023  debian-archive-buster-security-automatic.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1704 30. Jul 2023  debian-archive-buster-stable.asc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    66 16. Sep 2021  siduction-archive-keyring.gpg -> /usr/share/siduction-archive-keyring/siduction-archive-keyring.gpg
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  3212 18. Jun 17:29 winehq-archive_key.gpg
[17:44:32][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d]$ doas mv winehq-archive.key.gpg winehq-archive.key.asc
mv: der Aufruf von stat für 'winehq-archive.key.gpg' ist nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[17:46:37][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d]$ doas mv winehq-archive_key.gpg winehq-archive_key.asc
#[17:47:36][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d]$ doas apt update
OK:1 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian trixie InRelease
OK:2 https://deb.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease                                             
OK:3 https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/siduction/extra unstable InRelease                             
OK:4 https://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable InRelease
Aktualisierung für 30 Pakete verfügbar. Führen Sie »apt list --upgradable« aus, um sie anzuzeigen.
Warning: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/dists/trixie/InRelease: The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/keyrings/winehq-archive.key are ignored as the file has an unsupported filetype.


(Die zwischenzeitliche Fehlermeldung resultiert auf einem Schreibfehler in Deinem Befehl, der aber schnell ausgemerzt war ... bei c&p sollte man halt doch nochmal genauer hinsehen)

Ich hab mich dann mal in das Verzeichnis bewegt, auf das die Fehlermeldung verwies und habe festgestellt, dass auch hier eine *.key-Datei existierte, die ich mit Deinem Tipp entsprechend mit einem einem ...


[17:56:08][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:/etc/apt/keyrings]$ doas mv winehq-archive.key winehq-archive.key.gpg
[17:56:32][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:/etc/apt/keyrings]$ doas apt update
OK:1 https://deb.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease
OK:2 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian trixie InRelease                                                               
OK:3 https://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable InRelease                                                                 
OK:4 https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/siduction/extra unstable InRelease
Aktualisierung für 30 Pakete verfügbar. Führen Sie »apt list --upgradable« aus, um sie anzuzeigen.
[17:56:41][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:/etc/apt/keyrings]$


... umbenannte und danach ein erneutes 'apt update' startete. Mit dem erhofften Erfolg.

Danke für die Hilfe.

Und ...

... ich kenne die Tuts, ich bin nur seit 30 Jahren - als ich noch UNIX-Server betreute - aus der Übung. :)
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Teriarch on 2024/12/01, 19:11:38
@Isegrimm666:

Super! Freut mich, dass es schließlich doch noch geklappt hat. Haben sich denn inzwischen die
mickrigen Bilder im aktuellen Firefox wieder vergrößert?

LG
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/01, 19:41:42
Nein ... die 'Baustelle Firefox' blieb bestehen ,,,

Aber als ich mit "apt install firefox-esr" diese Variante installierte, lief DER ohne Probleme. Und da ich alle Bookmarks und PWs als Backup hatte, hatte ich auch keine Ausfälle.

Ich hab danach den 'alten' Firefox nochmal gestartet, weilk ich dachte, die EST-Installation hätte evtl. einige inkompatible Dateien überschrieben ... aber nö, ... der läuft immer noch im 'Winz-Modus'.

Ich werde den auch erstmal nicht deinstallieren, weil ich nicht weiß, ob der dann einige Dateien oder Verzeichnisse weghaut, den der FF-ESR auch nutzt.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: reddark on 2024/12/01, 20:23:52
die sollten eigendlich unabhängig sein ..

starte mal dein winziges firefox mit
firefox -ProfileManager

starte es dann mit nem anderen/neuem profil ... wenn der fehler da weg is, dann ist irgendeine konfiguration oder ein addon fehlerhaft
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Mister00X on 2024/12/02, 10:01:41
Hallo allerseits,

ich habe gestern Abend auch meine beiden Systeme (ein Desktop und ein Laptop) auf Plasma 6 aktualisiert.

Der Desktop hat bis zum Update noch X11 genutzt, der Laptop nutzte bereits wayland (wegen der besseren Touchscreen-Unterstützung).

Das Update lief auf beiden problemlos durch, nur auf dem Desktop gab es im Anschluss ein paar Kleinigkeiten zu bemängeln:

Von den obigen Problemchen abgesehen, scheint alles zu funktionieren.

Außerdem kann ich bestätigen das unter Plasma 6 auf wayland, variable refresh rate/FreeSync einwandfrei funktioniert, und das auch bei mehreren eingeschalteten Monitoren.

Mister00X


Hello everyone,

yesterday evening I upgraded both of my systems (a desktop and a laptop) to Plasma 6.

Until the upgrade the desktop system used X11, the laptop already used wayland (as it has better touchscreen support).

The upgrade was smooth on both systems, but on the desktop system I noticed some smaller (minor) problems/annoyances:

Apart from these issues, everything seems to work fine after the upgrade.

Furthermore I can confirm that variable refresh rate/FreeSync works on Plasma 6 with wayland flawlessly, even with multiple turned on displays connected.

Mister00X
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: debsid on 2024/12/02, 16:26:55
Quote from: reddark on 2024/12/01, 20:23:52
die sollten eigendlich unabhängig sein ..

starte mal dein winziges firefox mit
firefox -ProfileManager

starte es dann mit nem anderen/neuem profil ... wenn der fehler da weg is, dann ist irgendeine konfiguration oder ein addon fehlerhaft

Ich habe dasselbe oder ein ähnliches Problem mit Firefox auf zwei Laptops, die ich übers WE auf KDE Plasma 6 aktualisiert habe. Firefox startet immer als kleines Fenster, merkt sich angepasste Größen nicht, es sei denn die maximale Größe. Will sagen, seit KDE Plasma 6 startet Firefox entweder als minimal oder maximal, angepasste Größen werden außer Acht gelassen.

Habe das mit -ProfileManager und dem Löschen von cache versucht, aber ohne Ergebnis.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: reddark on 2024/12/02, 17:19:00
kommt die fensterdekoration von plasma?
vielleicht liegs daran ... hier läuft lxqt, aber hab ne menge plasmazeug installiert und wurde geupdatet, trotzdem gibts hier kein problem  :-X
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: debsid on 2024/12/02, 17:39:11
Quote from: reddark on 2024/12/02, 17:19:00
kommt die fensterdekoration von plasma?
vielleicht liegs daran ... hier läuft lxqt, aber hab ne menge plasmazeug installiert und wurde geupdatet, trotzdem gibts hier kein problem  :-X

Mir scheint, dass die Dekoration von Plasma kommt. Bin ich mir aber wirklich sicher?  :-[
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Teriarch on 2024/12/02, 22:15:01
Mister00X wrote:
> As already mentioned in this thread SDDM themes other than the stock Debian theme seem to not work.
> (Not even the siduction theme,  :'( ) This is also the case for the laptop

Ich habe das original Debian File sddm-theme-giants_2023.1-5_all.deb für Plasma 6 angepasst,
wollte es aber aus urheberrechtlichen Gründen nicht ohne Zustimmung oder Absprache mit dem
Autor zur Verfügung stellen.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: hendrikL on 2024/12/03, 01:07:51
https://github.com/siduction/sddm-theme-siduction/tree/giants/theme

Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: xerol on 2024/12/04, 09:28:08
Quote from: xerol on 2024/11/27, 19:11:36
In Dolphin fehlt das Terminal:

QuoteTerminal cannot be shown because Konsole is not installed. Please install it and then reopen the panel.

Passen da eventuell die Versionen von Konsole und Dolphin nicht zusammen?

ii  konsole                                                  4:24.08.0-2
ii  konsole-kpart                                            4:24.08.0-2

ii  dolphin                                                  4:23.08.1-1+b3
ii  libdolphinvcs5:amd64                                     4:23.08.1-1+b3


fixed with todays update.


ii  dolphin                                                  4:24.08.0-5
ii  dolphin-data                                             4:24.08.0-5
ii  dolphin-doc                                              4:24.08.0-5
ii  dolphin-plugins                                          4:24.08.0-2
ii  libdolphinvcs6:amd64                                     4:24.08.0-5
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Mister00X on 2024/12/05, 15:02:55
Ich habe soeben festgestellt, dass dolphin keine Vorschauen mehr für PDF-Dateien erzeugt. Auch der entsprechende Eintrag in den ,,Vorschau-Einstellungen" ist verschwunden.
[attachment id=0 msg=75845]

Ich glaube, das ist erst der Fall seitdem ich heute mein System aktualisiert habe (welches bereits auf Plasma 6 aktualisiert war), bin mir allerdings nicht sicher.

Ist davon noch jemand betroffen und/oder hat jemand eine Lösung dafür?

Mister00X



I just noticed that dolphin does no longer generate previews for PDF-files. The corresponding setting has also disappeared from dolphins settings (see the image above).

I'm not entirely sure but I believe this problem only occurred after I upgraded my system today (the system was already upgraded to plasma 6).

Has anyone else noticed this problem and/or does anyone have a solution for it?

Mister00X
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: der_bud on 2024/12/05, 20:21:08
Keine Lösung, aber eventuell Grund: ich meine zuständig dafür ist kdegraphics-thumbnailers, was zwar in Experimental schon in Version 4:24.08.0-1 wartet, in Sid aber noch bei 4:22.12.3-1+b1 hängt. Also abwarten oder bei vorhandener Risikobereitschaft aus Experimental holen ;)
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid - Qt5 entfernen
Post by: Cefdinir71 on 2024/12/06, 17:44:36
Hallo,

wird während der Migration auf Qt6 geprüft, welche Qt5-Dateien noch installiert sind und diese werden bereinigt?

Wie kann man manuell die schon überflüssigen Qt5-Dateien herausfinden und sie löschen, auch wenn noch nicht alle Qt5-Dateien überflüssig sein sollten und die Migration noch nicht komplett vollzogen  sein sollte?

Danke und Grüße
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: tranquil on 2024/12/06, 22:28:01
Quote from: edlin on 2024/11/23, 15:36:56
Use  apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade

This does not mean 100% security, but should get you through the changeover to Plasma 6 relatively safely over the next few days.

edlin
Interesting...I've never heard of that switch before. Is that something you always use? If not, when do you know that you no longer need to use it?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/07, 05:01:45
I've been using this switch for my daily upgrades since I was shown it by Edlin. It has already saved me a lot of trouble 🙂 .
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/07, 10:58:12
Ich hab gerade eben zwei Dinge festgestellt, die seltsam sind und ich denke mal, 'Dolphin' betreffen ...

1. Suchfunktion:
Wenn ich in Dolphin das Icon der Dateisuche anklicke, öffnet sich - wie gewohnt - ein Schreibfeld, in dem ich das zu suchende Muster eingeben kann. Ich habe das eben auf meiner Fotoplatte versucht, um Duplikate zu finden. Der Dateiname ist z.B. 'IMG:1234.cr2' ... gab ich früher '1234' in die Suche ein, wurde mir die Datei angezigt (nebst Pfad).

Jetzt erscheint nach dem Druck auf 'Enter' ein Hinweisfeld: 'Ungültiges Protokoll'. Ich habe das daraufhin im Homeverzeichnis und auch mit dem kompletten Dateinamen getestet ... beide Male mit dem oben geschilderten Ergebnis.

2. Externe Laufwerke:
Schliesse ich eine externe HDD oder SSD an, erscheint sie wie gewohnt in Dolphin, links in der Ordnerleiste. Im System, in der Statusleiste unter 'Angeschlossene Wechseldatenträger' hingegen ploppt sie nicht - wie früher - auf.

Beide Issues sind jetzt nicht gravierend und können leicht kompensiert werden ... aber interessant isses schon.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/07, 12:01:09
@tranquil:
The Solver 3.0 is still experimental, but is already included in apt 2.9.3 and higher, so that anyone can test it. You can find out more here:
https://blog.jak-linux.org/2024/05/14/solver3/
I use apt with Solver 3.0 on a daily basis. In the beginning I compared the output with apt full-upgrade or apt upgrade. No problems until today.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/07, 20:31:52
Ich habe gerade eben ein ...

apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade

... angestoßen. Für alle - zum Löschen vorgemerkten - Pakete waren entsprechende Aktualisierungen vorhanden. Auch die beiden oben geschilderten issues (Suchfunktion und ext. Datenträger) sind nicht mehr beständig ... wahrscheinlich, weil auch dolphin upgegraded wurde.

Einzig Dolphins Icon ist nicht mehr das von meinem theme ... aber das sollte sich beheben lassen.

Ich denke, der Spuk ist vorbei.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: tranquil on 2024/12/08, 18:25:49
Quote from: edlin on 2024/12/07, 12:01:09
@tranquil:
The Solver 3.0 is still experimental, but is already included in apt 2.9.3 and higher, so that anyone can test it. You can find out more here:
https://blog.jak-linux.org/2024/05/14/solver3/
I use apt with Solver 3.0 on a daily basis. In the beginning I compared the output with apt full-upgrade or apt upgrade. No problems until today.

edlin

Thank you for the link. What problems did you experience?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/09, 15:17:06
I haven't had any problems so far. Previously, it could happen with an apt full upgrade that, for example, hundreds of packages were suggested for removal during a transition. With the new solver, packages whose removal would ruin the system are put back. If all dependencies are fulfilled, a regular full upgrade is performed. This is my experience so far.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: bad_aptitude on 2024/12/09, 20:44:29
I tried a full upgrade with Solver 3.0 and upon reboot and after signon I get an error message about latte having crashed. My main desktop is visible and mouse pointer moves but there are no launchers and desktop items are unresponsive. The only way to signout is to power off. Reverting to previous kernels gives the same problem.
My system is a Lenovo Ideapad 3 laptop with intel graphics; which has been running Siduction for the past 2 years.
So I'm probably going to have to re-install siduction unless someone has a suggestion for recovering my system.

Has anyone had success upgrading to Plasma 6 from the latest iso?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: devil on 2024/12/10, 05:19:33
All I can say from the information given is, that Latte is no more. It had been unmaintained for quite some time and is not going to work with Plasma 6.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: hendrikL on 2024/12/10, 08:04:33
and is qt6-svg-plugins installed?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/10, 10:00:37
@tranquil:

Mit der Erfahrung einiger OS-Crashes in der Vergangenheit bei einem vorschnellen Full-Upgrade ist mein Vorgehen nun wie folgt:

1. Vor einem Upgrade Forum lesen :)

Dann:

apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade

2. Überprüfung:
Sollen keine Pakete gelöscht werden oder sind entsprechende Ersetzungen vorhanden, dann führe ich die Aktion durch.

3. Sollen Pakete gelöscht werden, für die keine Entsprechungen aufgeführt sind, breche ich ab und führe ein:

apt update && apt --solver 3.0 upgrade

durch.

Schritt 2 wiederhole ich in den darauffolgenden Tagen solange, bis für alle zu löschenden Pakete Updates eingestellt sind ... dann lasse ich erst ein full-upgrade laufen.

Hat sich bewährt. :)

---------------------------

With the experience of some OS crashes in the past with a hasty full upgrade, my procedure is now as follows:

1. read the forum before upgrading :)

Then:

apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade

2. check:
If no packages are to be deleted or corresponding replacements are available, then I perform the action.

3. if packages are to be deleted for which no replacements are listed, I cancel and execute:

apt update && apt --solver 3.0 upgrade

is executed.

I repeat step 2 the next days until updates are set for all packages to be deleted ... then I run a full upgrade.

This has proved successful. :)
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Mister00X on 2024/12/10, 10:42:56
Quote from: der_bud on 2024/12/05, 20:21:08
Keine Lösung, aber eventuell Grund: ich meine zuständig dafür ist kdegraphics-thumbnailers, was zwar in Experimental schon in Version 4:24.08.0-1 wartet, in Sid aber noch bei 4:22.12.3-1+b1 hängt. Also abwarten oder bei vorhandener Risikobereitschaft aus Experimental holen ;)

Also ich habe jetzt kdegraphics-thumbnailers aus experimental installiert, PDF-Vorschauen funktionieren wieder.
Habe bisher keine anderen Probleme feststellen können, werde euch aber auf dem Laufenden halten, falls mir doch noch etwas auffällt.

Danke der_bud

Mister00X


So I've installed kdegraphics-thumbnailers from experimental, previews of PDF-files work again.
I did not notice any other problems yet, but I will keep you guys posted in case I notice something later.

Thanks der_bud

Mister00X
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: bad_aptitude on 2024/12/12, 03:15:55
I have just reinstalled siduction using the  test version of the live iso at https://testbuilds.siduction.org/.

Installation was "successful" but both the live iso desktop and the installed desktop had no tool bar or launcher. Otherwise desktop appeared to be active.
I haven't done a full upgrade of the new installation yet.
Should I  use "Solver  3.0" or do a normal full upgrade?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: hendrikL on 2024/12/12, 07:48:19
That's equal, if a package is broken the solver can't repair it.
But yes try first with the solver.

But you should also take a look here -> https://wiki.debian.org/Plasma%206
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/12, 08:13:25
Quote from: bad_aptitude on 2024/12/12, 03:15:55
Should I  use "Solver  3.0" or do a normal full upgrade?

Basically, the solver is a check algorithm that checks the packages to be installed/updated for unfulfilled dependencies. If it finds any, it does not install or omits this package from the upgrade.

A ...

apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade

... is always a good idea. I even use it for normal upgrades.

Quote
I have just reinstalled siduction using the  test version of the live iso at https://testbuilds.siduction.org/.

Installation was "successful" but both the live iso desktop and the installed desktop

In this case, I think that the images are not yet up to date.

I would therefore advise you to perform a full upgrade with the solver (as described above).
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: bad_aptitude on 2024/12/12, 20:12:21
@Isegrimm666 and @hendrikL
Thank you for your ideas.

I did an upgrade with solver. When I then did a full upgrade there were no additional changes noted.
I performed the updates suggested on https://wiki.debian.org/Plasma%206.

I still don't have any launchers or toolbars. Is there a way to manually set up a Plasma 6 Launcher? or do I just have to wait for the repositories to get updated?
Do others have the same problem?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/13, 10:27:51
Please try the following steps:
Right mouse click on the desktop.
Select Enter Edit Mode
Select Add Panel 
Select Defaul Panel.
The familiar control bar with the start menu should now appear at the bottom. Close edit mode and you're done.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: bad_aptitude on 2024/12/13, 21:01:58
@edlin
It worked! Many thanks.

Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: DeepDayze on 2024/12/13, 21:13:05
This tip works if you somehow totally broke or accidently deleted the main panel and need to restore it. But first you delete the broken panel in Edit Mode and then you add a new fresh main panel back as noted. You might then need to add any widgets you had before, however.

Quote from: edlin on 2024/12/13, 10:27:51
Please try the following steps:
Right mouse click on the desktop.
Select Enter Edit Mode
Select Add Panel 
Select Defaul Panel.
The familiar control bar with the start menu should now appear at the bottom. Close edit mode and you're done.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Lanzi on 2024/12/14, 18:06:49
Zur Info für alle , die noch nicht gewechselt haben: Update verlief gerade komplett unauffällig.

Vermutlich kein Bug, aber warum kommt die Kontrolleiste entweder verzögert hoch, wenn man sie sonst ausgeblendet hat bzw. oft gar nicht?

Just as an Info: DU was running smoothly just right now,.
But the controlpanel is not reacting or reakting slowly. Its kind of annoying
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/19, 09:53:01
Da kommt gerade wieder was Großes ...


[09:47:20][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:~]$ dofu
OK:1 https://deb.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease
OK:2 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian trixie InRelease                                                               
OK:3 https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/siduction/extra unstable InRelease                                                       
OK:4 https://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable InRelease             
Aktualisierung für 21 Pakete verfügbar. Führen Sie »apt list --upgradable« aus, um sie anzuzeigen.
Upgrading:                                         
  accountwizard          akonadi-mime-data  akregator     kaddressbook-data  kalendarac     kdepim-runtime       kleopatra  konsolekalendar  mbox-importer      pim-sieve-editor
  akonadi-contacts-data  akonadiconsole     kaddressbook  kalarm             kdepim-addons  kdepim-themeeditors  kmail      korganizer       pim-data-exporter

Installing dependencies:
  kmailtransport-plugins    libkf6i18nqml6                    libkpim6akonadicalendar6        libkpim6gapicore6                   libkpim6ksieveui6             libkpim6mimetreeparser6         libksmtp-data
  libakonadicalendar-data   libkf6textautocorrectionwidgets1  libkpim6akonadicontactcore6     libkpim6gapipeople6                 libkpim6ldapwidgets6          libkpim6mimetreeparsercore6     libktnef-data
  libakonadisearch-bin      libkf6textgrammarcheck1           libkpim6akonadicontactwidgets6  libkpim6gapitasks6                  libkpim6libkleo6              libkpim6mimetreeparserwidgets6  libmailcommon-data
  libakonadisearch-data     libkf6texttranslator1             libkpim6akonadimime6            libkpim6gravatar6                   libkpim6mailcommon6           libkpim6pimcommonactivities6    libmailimporter-data
  libakonadisearch-plugins  libkgantt-l10n                    libkpim6akonadisearchcore6      libkpim6identitymanagementcore6     libkpim6mailimporter6         libkpim6pimcommonakonadi6       libmimetreeparser-data
  libcalendarsupport-data   libkgantt6-3                      libkpim6akonadisearchdebug6     libkpim6identitymanagementwidgets6  libkpim6mailimporterakonadi6  libkpim6pkpass6                 libqt6networkauth6
  libeventviews-data        libkimap-data                     libkpim6akonadisearchpim6       libkpim6imap6                       libkpim6mailtransport6        libkpim6smtp6                   messagelib-data
  libgravatar-data          libkitinerary-data                libkpim6akonadisearchxapian6    libkpim6importwizard6               libkpim6mbox6                 libkpim6templateparser6
  libincidenceeditor-data   libkleo-data                      libkpim6akonadixml6             libkpim6incidenceeditor6            libkpim6messagecomposer6      libkpim6textedit6
  libkcalendarutils-data    libkmailtransport-data            libkpim6calendarsupport6        libkpim6itinerary6                  libkpim6messagecore6          libkpim6tnef6
  libkf6calendarcore6       libkmime-data                     libkpim6calendarutils6          libkpim6kmanagesieve6               libkpim6messagelist6          libkpim6webengineviewer6
  libkf6dav-data            libkpim6addressbookimportexport6  libkpim6eventviews6             libkpim6ksieve6                     libkpim6messageviewer6        libkpimtextedit-data
  libkf6dav6                libkpim6akonadiagentbase6         libkpim6gapicalendar6           libkpim6ksievecore6                 libkpim6mime6                 libksieve-data

Not upgrading:
  libunwind8  r-bioc-biocstyle

REMOVING:
  kde-config-mailtransport    libkf5akonadicalendar5abi1   libkf5calendarsupport5abi1  libkf5ksieve-data   libkf5mailcommon5abi2        libkf5messagecomposer5abi1t64  libkf5pimcommonakonadi5abi1      libkpimitinerary5
  kf5-messagelib-data         libkf5akonadicontact5        libkf5contacteditor5        libkf5ksieve5       libkf5mailimporterakonadi5   libkf5messagecore5abi1t64      libkf5templateparser5t64
  kmailtransport-akonadi      libkf5akonadimime5           libkf5eventviews5abi1       libkf5ksieveui5     libkf5mailtransport-data     libkf5messagelist5abi1t64      libkpimaddressbookimportexport5
  knotes                      libkf5akonadisearch-bin      libkf5incidenceeditor5abi1  libkf5libkleo-data  libkf5mailtransport5         libkf5messageviewer5abi1t64    libkpimimportwizard5
  libkf5akonadicalendar-data  libkf5akonadisearch-plugins  libkf5kmanagesieve5         libkf5libkleo5      libkf5mailtransportakonadi5  libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1t64   libkpimitinerary-data

Summary:
  Upgrading: 19, Installing: 85, Removing: 36, Not Upgrading: 2
  Download size: 45,3 MB
  Space needed: 32,4 MB / 298 GB available
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: T-ampfer on 2024/12/19, 10:57:05
Ich hoffe nur das Dolphin schnell gefixt wird, weder smb noch webdav und Co funktionieren. Gerade das benötige ich aber täglich.

Momentan arbeite ich mit der Zweitinstallation stable(bookworm)....  :(
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: CyrusQ on 2024/12/20, 23:52:33
Bei mir sollen 50 Pakete entfernt werden - ist das sicher oder sollte ich noch warten?

Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  calculix-ccx kate5-data kde-config-mailtransport kf5-messagelib-data kgamma5 kmailtransport-akonadi knotes kuserfeedback-doc libkdecorations2-5v5 libkf5akonadicalendar-data libkf5akonadicalendar5abi1 libkf5akonadicontact5 libkf5akonadimime5 libkf5akonadisearch-bin libkf5akonadisearch-plugins
  libkf5baloowidgets-bin libkf5baloowidgets5 libkf5calendarsupport5abi1 libkf5contacteditor5 libkf5eventviews5abi1 libkf5incidenceeditor5abi1 libkf5kmanagesieve5 libkf5konq6 libkf5ksieve-data libkf5ksieve5 libkf5ksieveui5 libkf5libkleo-data libkf5libkleo5 libkf5mailimporterakonadi5 libkf5mailtransport-data
  libkf5mailtransport5 libkf5mailtransportakonadi5 libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1 libkf5pimcommonakonadi5abi1 libkf5screen-bin libkf5sysguard-data libkpimaddressbookimportexport5 libkscreenlocker5 libksgrd9 libksysguardformatter1 libksysguardsensorfaces1 libksysguardsensors1 libksysguardsystemstats1 libopenmpi3t64
  libprocesscore9 libprocessui9 libreoffice-kf5 libspooles2.2t64 plasma-workspace-wayland qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  baloo6 breeze-wallpaper clinfo coinor-libcoinmp0 dolphin-data dolphin-doc evolution-data-server-common frameworkintegration6 freerdp3-wayland gir1.2-babl-0.1 gir1.2-gegl-0.4 gir1.2-gimp-3.0 kate-data kde-style-oxygen-qt6 kdeconnect-libs kgamma kget-doc kglobalacceld kimageformat6-plugins kmailtransport-plugins
  konqueror-data konqueror-doc kpackagetool6 kwayland6-data libaccounts-qt6-1 libakonadi-data libakonadicalendar-data libakonadisearch-bin libakonadisearch-data libakonadisearch-plugins libappstream-glib8 libappstreamqt3 libbaloowidgets-bin libbatterycontrol6 libcalendarsupport-data libcamel-1.2-64t64
  libcolorcorrect6 libcpuinfo0 libddcutil5 libdisplay-info2 libdolphinvcs6 libebackend-1.2-11t64 libebook-1.2-21t64 libebook-contacts-1.2-4t64 libedata-book-1.2-27t64 libedataserver-1.2-27t64 libeis1 libeventviews-data libfreerdp-client3-3 libfreerdp3-3 libfwupd3 libgimp-3.0-0 libgrantleetheme-data
  libgrantleetheme-plugins libgravatar-data libgspell-1-3 libhdf5-310 libhdf5-hl-310 libhdf5-openmpi-310 libheif-plugin-j2kdec libincidenceeditor-data libkaccounts6-2 libkcalendarutils-data libkdecorations2-6 libkdecorations2private11 libkdepim-data libkdepim-plugins libkexiv2qt6-0 libkf6attica6 libkf6baloo6
  libkf6balooengine6 libkf6baloowidgets6 libkf6bookmarks-data libkf6bookmarks6 libkf6bookmarkswidgets6 libkf6calendarcore6 libkf6calendarevents6 libkf6configqml6 libkf6contacts-data libkf6contacts6 libkf6dav-data libkf6dav6 libkf6declarative-data libkf6dnssd-data libkf6dnssd6 libkf6filemetadata-bin
  libkf6filemetadata-data libkf6filemetadata3 libkf6globalaccel-data libkf6globalaccel6 libkf6holidays-data libkf6holidays6 libkf6i18nlocaledata6 libkf6i18nqml6 libkf6idletime6 libkf6itemmodels6 libkf6kcmutils-bin libkf6kcmutils6 libkf6kiofilewidgets6 libkf6konq7 libkf6konqsettings7 libkf6modemmanagerqt6
  libkf6networkmanagerqt6 libkf6newstuff-data libkf6newstuffcore6 libkf6newstuffwidgets6 libkf6notifyconfig-data libkf6notifyconfig6 libkf6package-data libkf6package6 libkf6parts-data libkf6parts6 libkf6people-data libkf6people6 libkf6peoplebackend6 libkf6plotting6 libkf6pty-data libkf6pty6 libkf6pulseaudioqt5
  libkf6qqc2desktopstyle-data libkf6runner6 libkf6screen8 libkf6screendpms8 libkf6sonnet-data libkf6sonnetcore6 libkf6sonnetui6 libkf6style6 libkf6su-bin libkf6su-data libkf6su6 libkf6svg6 libkf6syndication6 libkf6syntaxhighlighting-data libkf6syntaxhighlighting6 libkf6textaddonswidgets1
  libkf6textautocorrectioncore1 libkf6textcustomeditor1 libkf6texteditor-bin libkf6texteditor-data libkf6texteditor-katepart libkf6texteditor6 libkf6textedittexttospeech1 libkf6textemoticonscore1 libkf6textemoticonswidgets1 libkf6texttemplate6 libkf6textutils1 libkf6textwidgets-data libkf6textwidgets6
  libkf6threadweaver6 libkf6unitconversion-data libkf6unitconversion6 libkf6userfeedback-data libkf6userfeedback-doc libkf6userfeedbackcore6 libkf6userfeedbackwidgets6 libkf6xmlgui-data libkf6xmlgui6 libkfontinst6 libkfontinstui6 libkgantt-l10n libkgantt6-3 libkgapi-data libkglobalacceld0 libkimap-data
  libkldap-data libkleo-data libklipper6 libkmailtransport-data libkmime-data libkmpris6 libkontactinterface-data libkpim6addressbookimportexport6 libkpim6akonadiagentbase6 libkpim6akonadicalendar6 libkpim6akonadicontactcore6 libkpim6akonadicontactwidgets6 libkpim6akonadicore6 libkpim6akonadimime6
  libkpim6akonadiprivate6 libkpim6akonadisearchcore6 libkpim6akonadisearchdebug6 libkpim6akonadisearchpim6 libkpim6akonadisearchxapian6 libkpim6akonadiwidgets6 libkpim6calendarsupport6 libkpim6calendarutils6 libkpim6eventviews6 libkpim6gapicalendar6 libkpim6gapicore6 libkpim6gapipeople6 libkpim6gapitasks6
  libkpim6grantleetheme6 libkpim6gravatar6 libkpim6identitymanagementcore6 libkpim6identitymanagementwidgets6 libkpim6imap6 libkpim6incidenceeditor6 libkpim6kmanagesieve6 libkpim6kontactinterface6 libkpim6ksieve6 libkpim6ksievecore6 libkpim6ksieveui6 libkpim6ldapcore6 libkpim6ldapwidgets6 libkpim6libkdepim6
  libkpim6libkleo6 libkpim6mailtransport6 libkpim6mbox6 libkpim6messagecomposer6 libkpim6messagecore6 libkpim6messageviewer6 libkpim6mime6 libkpim6mimetreeparser6 libkpim6mimetreeparsercore6 libkpim6mimetreeparserwidgets6 libkpim6pimcommon6 libkpim6pimcommonakonadi6 libkpim6smtp6 libkpim6templateparser6
  libkpim6textedit6 libkpim6webengineviewer6 libkpimtextedit-data libkpipewire-data libkpipewire6 libkpipewiredmabuf6 libkpipewirerecord6 libkscreen-bin libkscreen-data libkscreenlocker6 libksieve-data libksmtp-data libksysguard-data libksysguardformatter2 libksysguardsensorfaces2 libksysguardsensors2
  libksysguardsystemstats2 libktextaddons-data libktorrent6-6 libkwaylandclient6 libkwin6 libkworkspace6-6 liblayershellqtinterface6 libmimetreeparser-data libodbccr2 libonnx1t64 libonnxruntime1.19.2 libopenmpi40 liboxygenstyle5-6 liboxygenstyle6-6 liboxygenstyleconfig6-6 libpackagekitqt6-1 libphonenumber8
  libphonon4qt6-4t64 libpimcommon-data libplasma-geolocation-interface6 libplasma5support-data libplasma5support6 libplasma6 libplasmaactivities6 libplasmaactivitiesstats1 libplasmaquick6 libpoppler-qt6-3t64 libprocesscore10 libpthreadpool0 libqaccessibilityclient-qt6-0 libqcoro6core0t64 libqcoro6dbus0t64
  libqgpgmeqt6-15 libqmobipocket6-2 libqt6bluetooth6 libqt6bluetooth6-bin libqt6keychain1 libqt6networkauth6 libqt6positioning6-plugins libqt6positioningquick6 libqt6quick3d6 libqt6quick3druntimerender6 libqt6quick3dutils6 libqt6sensors6 libqt6serialport6 libqt6sql6-mysql libqt6uitools6 libqt6virtualkeyboard6
  libqt6webview6 libquickcharts1 libquickchartscontrols1 libre2-11 libreoffice-kf6 libreoffice-qt6 libsignon-qt6-1 libsystemd-dev libtaskmanager6 libwinpr3-3 libxkbregistry0 libxnnpack0 linux-headers-6.12.6-1-siduction-amd64 linux-image-6.12.6-1-siduction-amd64 messagelib-data ocean-sound-theme
  phonon-backend-vlc-common phonon4qt6 phonon4qt6-backend-vlc plasma-activities-bin plasma-desktop-doc plasma-desktoptheme plasma-workspace-doc plasma5-integration power-profiles-daemon python3-platformdirs python3-pooch python3-sentry-sdk python3-tqdm qdbus-qt6 qml6-module-org-kde-activities
  qml6-module-org-kde-baloo qml6-module-org-kde-breeze qml6-module-org-kde-config qml6-module-org-kde-coreaddons qml6-module-org-kde-desktop qml6-module-org-kde-draganddrop qml6-module-org-kde-graphicaleffects qml6-module-org-kde-iconthemes qml6-module-org-kde-kdeconnect qml6-module-org-kde-kholidays
  qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-components qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-datetime qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-delegates qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-formcard qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-labs-components qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-settings
  qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-tableview qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-treeview qml6-module-org-kde-kitemmodels qml6-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols qml6-module-org-kde-ksvg qml6-module-org-kde-ksysguard qml6-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem qml6-module-org-kde-networkmanager qml6-module-org-kde-newstuff
  qml6-module-org-kde-notifications qml6-module-org-kde-people qml6-module-org-kde-pipewire qml6-module-org-kde-plasma-plasma5support qml6-module-org-kde-quickcharts qml6-module-org-kde-sonnet qml6-module-org-kde-syntaxhighlighting qml6-module-org-kde-userfeedback qml6-module-qt-labs-platform
  qml6-module-qt-labs-qmlmodels qml6-module-qtcore qml6-module-qtmultimedia qml6-module-qtpositioning qml6-module-qtquick-effects qml6-module-qtquick-particles qml6-module-qtquick-virtualkeyboard qml6-module-qtquick3d qml6-module-qtwebchannel qml6-module-qtwebengine qml6-module-qtwebview
  qml6-module-sso-onlineaccounts qt6-svg-plugins qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin sonnet6-plugins vulkan-tools wayland-utils xwaylandvideobridge
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/21, 00:08:21
@CyrusQ Kurze Antwort: Ja.
Wenn das die Ausgabe von apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade war: Ja, es sollte sicher sein.
Wenn es die Ausgabe von apt update && apt full-upgrade war: Verwende solver 3.0.
Warten macht die Listen nur länger ...

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/21, 10:01:00
Quote from: CyrusQ on 2024/12/20, 23:52:33
Bei mir sollen 50 Pakete entfernt werden - ist das sicher oder sollte ich noch warten?
...

Ich bin ein gebranntes Kind und der "solver" hat mir schon oft genug den Ar... gerettet.

Seitdem habe ich mir folgende Vorgehensweise (https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=9511.msg75927#msg75927) angewöhnt.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: CyrusQ on 2024/12/21, 14:43:46
Nun habe ich
apt update && apt --solver 3.0 upgrade
ausgeführt und nach dem reboot komme ich nicht mehr richtig in die grafische Oberfläche... :(

Mit dem neuesten Kernel, der durch das Upgrade installiert wurde, hängt der Boot bei "reached target: graphical target". Hier ein Problem mit nvidia? Habe eine Nvidia 3600.

Mit dem alten Kernel sehe ich nur einen schwarzen Bildschirm und den Mauszeiger, den ich bewegen kann.
Mit Rechtsklick auf den schwarzen Desktop kann ich zumindest die Taskleiste herstellen und Programme starten. Scheint also irgendein Problem mit Plasma zu sein.

Wie kann ich das Problem lösen?

apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade zeigt folgendes:

[b]Upgrading:                                         
[/b]  bluedevil            kate                     kdeplasma-addons-data  kwin-addons        kwin-x11                  libpowerdevilcore2        libreoffice-core     libreoffice-uiconfig-base     libreoffice-uiconfig-writer  plasma-dataengines-addons  plasma-nm              plasma-wallpapers-addons
  breeze               kde-config-gtk-style     konq-plugins           kwin-common        kwrite                    libreoffice-base          libreoffice-draw     libreoffice-uiconfig-calc     libreoffice-writer           plasma-desktop             plasma-pa              plasma-widgets-addons
  breeze-cursor-theme  kde-config-screenlocker  konqueror              kwin-data          libhdf5-openmpi-103-1t64  libreoffice-base-core     libreoffice-impress  libreoffice-uiconfig-draw     libvtk9.3                    plasma-desktop-data        plasma-runners-addons  plasma-workspace
  dolphin              kde-style-breeze         kscreen                kwin-style-breeze  libmedc11t64              libreoffice-base-drivers  libreoffice-math     libreoffice-uiconfig-impress  libweather-ion7              plasma-framework           plasma-systemmonitor   powerdevil
  kaccounts-providers  kdeconnect               ksystemstats           kwin-wayland       libnotificationmanager1   libreoffice-calc          libreoffice-qt5      libreoffice-uiconfig-math     milou                        plasma-integration         plasma-vault           powerdevil-data

[b]Installing dependencies:
[/b]  baloo6                 konqueror-data         libkdecorations2-6         libkf6holidays6          libkf6screendpms8           libkscreen-data           liboxygenstyleconfig6-6           libqt6positioning6-plugins   libxkbregistry0                 qml6-module-org-kde-breeze                    qml6-module-org-kde-networkmanager
  breeze-wallpaper       konqueror-doc          libkdecorations2private11  libkf6konq7              libkf6style6                libkscreenlocker6         libplasma-geolocation-interface6  libqt6positioningquick6      ocean-sound-theme               qml6-module-org-kde-draganddrop               qml6-module-org-kde-notifications
  coinor-libcoinmp0      libbaloowidgets-bin    libkf6baloo6               libkf6konqsettings7      libkf6unitconversion-data   libksysguard-data         libplasma5support-data            libqt6quick3d6               plasma-desktop-doc              qml6-module-org-kde-graphicaleffects          qml6-module-org-kde-people
  dolphin-data           libbatterycontrol6     libkf6balooengine6         libkf6modemmanagerqt6    libkf6unitconversion6       libksysguardformatter2    libplasma5support6                libqt6quick3druntimerender6  plasma-desktoptheme             qml6-module-org-kde-kdeconnect                qml6-module-org-kde-pipewire
  dolphin-doc            libcolorcorrect6       libkf6baloowidgets6        libkf6networkmanagerqt6  libkf6userfeedbackwidgets6  libksysguardsensorfaces2  libplasmaquick6                   libqt6quick3dutils6          plasma-workspace-doc            qml6-module-org-kde-kholidays                 qml6-module-org-kde-plasma-plasma5support
  frameworkintegration6  libddcutil5            libkf6calendarevents6      libkf6people-data        libkfontinst6               libksysguardsensors2      libprocesscore10                  libqt6sensors6               plasma5-integration             qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-tableview  qml6-module-org-kde-quickcharts
  kate-data              libdisplay-info2       libkf6contacts-data        libkf6people6            libkfontinstui6             libksysguardsystemstats2  libqaccessibilityclient-qt6-0     libqt6serialport6            power-profiles-daemon           qml6-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols            qml6-module-qtpositioning
  kde-style-oxygen-qt6   libeis1                libkf6contacts6            libkf6peoplebackend6     libklipper6                 libkwin6                  libqcoro6dbus0t64                 libqt6uitools6               qdbus-qt6                       qml6-module-org-kde-ksvg                      qml6-module-qtquick-particles
  kdeconnect-libs        libhdf5-openmpi-310    libkf6declarative-data     libkf6pulseaudioqt5      libkmpris6                  libopenmpi40              libqt6bluetooth6                  libquickcharts1              qml6-module-org-kde-activities  qml6-module-org-kde-ksysguard                 qml6-module-qtquick3d
  kimageformat6-plugins  libheif-plugin-j2kdec  libkf6holidays-data        libkf6screen8            libkscreen-bin              liboxygenstyle6-6         libqt6bluetooth6-bin              libquickchartscontrols1      qml6-module-org-kde-baloo       qml6-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem             xwaylandvideobridge

[b]Not upgrading:
[/b]  accountwizard  akonadi-contacts-data  akonadi-mime-data  kaddressbook  kaddressbook-data  kalarm  kalendarac  kdepim-runtime  kleopatra  konsolekalendar  korganizer  pim-sieve-editor

[b]REMOVING:[/b]
  calculix-ccx  libkdecorations2-5v5    libkf5baloowidgets5  libkf5screen-bin     libkscreenlocker5  libksysguardformatter1    libksysguardsensors1      libopenmpi3t64   libprocessui9    libspooles2.2t64          qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard
  kate5-data    libkf5baloowidgets-bin  libkf5konq6          libkf5sysguard-data  libksgrd9          libksysguardsensorfaces1  libksysguardsystemstats1  libprocesscore9  libreoffice-kf5  plasma-workspace-wayland


Format geändert von scholle1 um 12:10
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/21, 16:24:16
Die Antwort steckt höchstwahrscheinlich schon in deinem Posting. Du hast _nur_ ein  apt update && apt --solver 3.0 upgrade durchgeführt. Ein apt upgrade, egal mit welchem Solver, wird nur die Aktualisierungen erledigen, die nicht zum Entfernen eines Paketes führen. Klingt nach einer super sicheren Lösung - ist es aber nicht. Die Ausgabe von apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade zeigt dir massenhaft Pakete, die auf eine Aktualisierung warten plus der zu installierenden Abhängigkeiten.Das wurde alles durch das apt upgrade zurückgehalten!
Führe das apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade aus. Vorher müssen wir keine Fehler suchen ...

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: ruebe99 on 2024/12/21, 16:38:46
Sollte jemand kontakt mit kmail usw. (akonadi* / kdepim*) einsetzen, wäre ich aktuell stark zurückhaltend.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: CyrusQ on 2024/12/21, 16:58:57
Quote from: edlin on 2024/12/21, 16:24:16
Führe das apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade aus.

Danke für den Hinweis, ich habe nur Angst, weil jede Menge Pakete entfernt werden sollen, u.a. plasma-workspace-wayland:

QuoteUpgrading:                                         
  binutils                   dolphin              kde-baseapps             kdeconnect             konq-plugins  kwin-data          libcpupower1              libkpmcore12             libreoffice-base-drivers  libreoffice-qt5               libreoffice-uiconfig-writer  linux-libc-dev             plasma-framework       plasma-vault
  binutils-common            dolphin-plugins      kde-config-gtk-style     kdegraphics            konqueror     kwin-style-breeze  libctf-nobfd0             libmedc11t64             libreoffice-calc          libreoffice-uiconfig-base     libreoffice-writer           milou                      plasma-integration     plasma-wallpapers-addons
  binutils-x86-64-linux-gnu  dragonplayer         kde-config-screenlocker  kdemultimedia          kscreen       kwin-wayland       libctf0                   libnotificationmanager1  libreoffice-core          libreoffice-uiconfig-calc     libsframe1                   partitionmanager           plasma-nm              plasma-widgets-addons
  bluedevil                  gwenview             kde-plasma-desktop       kdenetwork             ksystemstats  kwin-x11           libdolphinvcs6            libpowerdevilcore2       libreoffice-draw          libreoffice-uiconfig-draw     libvtk9.3                    plasma-dataengines-addons  plasma-pa              plasma-workspace
  breeze                     kaccounts-providers  kde-style-breeze         kdeplasma-addons-data  kwin-addons   kwrite             libgprofng0               libreoffice-base         libreoffice-impress       libreoffice-uiconfig-impress  libweather-ion7              plasma-desktop             plasma-runners-addons  powerdevil
  breeze-cursor-theme        kate                 kdeadmin                 kdetoys                kwin-common   libbinutils        libhdf5-openmpi-103-1t64  libreoffice-base-core    libreoffice-math          libreoffice-uiconfig-math     linux-cpupower               plasma-desktop-data        plasma-systemmonitor   powerdevil-data

Installing dependencies:
  baloo6                 kimageformat6-plugins  libkdcrawqt6-5             libkf6konq7              libkf6unitconversion-data   libksysguard-data                 libplasma5support6             libqt6quick3dutils6      plasma5-integration                           qml6-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols         qml6-module-qtquick-particles
  breeze-wallpaper       konqueror-data         libkdecorations2-6         libkf6konqsettings7      libkf6unitconversion6       libksysguardformatter2            libplasmaquick6                libqt6sensors6           power-profiles-daemon                         qml6-module-org-kde-ksvg                   qml6-module-qtquick3d
  coinor-libcoinmp0      konqueror-doc          libkdecorations2private11  libkf6modemmanagerqt6    libkf6userfeedbackwidgets6  libksysguardsensorfaces2          libprocesscore10               libqt6serialport6        qdbus-qt6                                     qml6-module-org-kde-ksysguard              xwaylandvideobridge
  dolphin-data           libbatterycontrol6     libkf6baloo6               libkf6networkmanagerqt6  libkfontinst6               libksysguardsensors2              libqaccessibilityclient-qt6-0  libqt6uitools6           qml6-module-org-kde-activities                qml6-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem
  dolphin-doc            libcolorcorrect6       libkf6balooengine6         libkf6people-data        libkfontinstui6             libksysguardsystemstats2          libqcoro6dbus0t64              libquickcharts1          qml6-module-org-kde-baloo                     qml6-module-org-kde-networkmanager
  frameworkintegration6  libddcutil5            libkf6calendarevents6      libkf6people6            libkimageannotator-qt6-0    libkwin6                          libqt6bluetooth6               libquickchartscontrols1  qml6-module-org-kde-breeze                    qml6-module-org-kde-notifications
  gwenview-doc           libdisplay-info2       libkf6contacts-data        libkf6peoplebackend6     libklipper6                 libopenmpi40                      libqt6bluetooth6-bin           libxkbregistry0          qml6-module-org-kde-draganddrop               qml6-module-org-kde-people
  kate-data              libeis1                libkf6contacts6            libkf6pulseaudioqt5      libkmpris6                  liboxygenstyle6-6                 libqt6positioning6-plugins     ocean-sound-theme        qml6-module-org-kde-graphicaleffects          qml6-module-org-kde-pipewire
  kde-style-oxygen-qt6   libhdf5-openmpi-310    libkf6declarative-data     libkf6screen8            libkscreen-bin              liboxygenstyleconfig6-6           libqt6positioningquick6        plasma-desktop-doc       qml6-module-org-kde-kdeconnect                qml6-module-org-kde-plasma-plasma5support
  kdeconnect-libs        libheif-plugin-j2kdec  libkf6holidays-data        libkf6screendpms8        libkscreen-data             libplasma-geolocation-interface6  libqt6quick3d6                 plasma-desktoptheme      qml6-module-org-kde-kholidays                 qml6-module-org-kde-quickcharts
  kgamma                 libkcolorpicker-qt6-0  libkf6holidays6            libkf6style6             libkscreenlocker6           libplasma5support-data            libqt6quick3druntimerender6    plasma-workspace-doc     qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-tableview  qml6-module-qtpositioning

Not upgrading:
  accountwizard  akonadi-contacts-data  akonadi-mime-data  kaddressbook  kaddressbook-data  kalarm  kalendarac  kdepim-runtime  kleopatra  konsolekalendar  korganizer  pim-sieve-editor

REMOVING:
  calculix-ccx  kgamma5               libkf5konq6       libkf5sysguard-data  libksgrd9               libksysguardsensorfaces1  libksysguardsystemstats1  libprocesscore9  libreoffice-kf5   plasma-workspace-wayland
  kate5-data    libkdecorations2-5v5  libkf5screen-bin  libkscreenlocker5    libksysguardformatter1  libksysguardsensors1      libopenmpi3t64            libprocessui9    libspooles2.2t64  qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/21, 17:47:43
Ich schreibe gerade unter Wayland, ohne dem Paket plasma-workspace-wayland. Das gehört noch zur alten Plasma5-Familie. Und es gibt auch noch X11.

edlin

Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: CyrusQ on 2024/12/21, 19:09:24
Ich habe jetzt das full-upgrade mal ausgeführt. Mit dem neuen Kernel hängt der Boot weiterhin bei "reached target: graphical target". Mit dem alten Kernel startet KDE in eine Login Oberfläche, auf der eine onscreen Tastatur angezeigt wird  :-X

Edit: habe es jetzt geschafft durch diesen komischen Login Screen zu kommen. Mit dem alten Kernel scheint es zu laufen, aber zum einen bin mir  nicht sicher ob nvidia läuft und zum anderen bootet der neue Kernel halt nicht in die grafische Oberfläche
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Pip on 2024/12/21, 19:19:40
I got around the worrying deletions problem by holding kmailtransport-akonadi, which got rid of the deletes. But then, I found, it hadn't solved the problem as I hadn't held akonadi and the kontact set up is now entirely blank. I have tried
sudo apt install akonadi-backend-mysql=4:22.12.3-2 akonadi-server=4:22.12.3-2
to get back the version replaced, but it's not available. Most unfortunate.
Perhaps I should unhold kmailtransport-akonadi, but that would leave even more to unwind if it's still broken.
I'd agree that anyone with Kontact/kmail should exert a little more caution at the moment.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: ruebe99 on 2024/12/21, 19:23:57
@CyrusQ
ich hab mir schon öfter mit tasksel (init 3) z.B. KDE Plasma neu aufgesetzt.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Pip on 2024/12/21, 19:32:30
@CyrusQ you don't happen to be using nvidia, do you? I was suffering from a similar issue, covered in "Topic: [EN] kernel 6.12 not working with nvidia-tesla-470" which pointed out a few things that should be done in that case, like setting
nvidia-drm.modeset=1
in /etc/default/grub and running update-grub.
The onscreen keyboard is covered in the same thread, stating that
InputMethod=
should be in the [General] section of /etc/sddm.conf.d/kde_settings.conf
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/21, 20:00:08
@ruebe99 KDE-Plasma neu aufsetzen löst hier kein Problem. Pip hat die beiden Probleme doch schon aufgezeigt:  Der fehlende Eintrag in /etc/sddm.conf.d/kde_settings.conf (wird beim upgrade nicht automatisch eingefügt) und das nvidia-Problem mit dem neuen Kernel.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: CyrusQ on 2024/12/21, 20:23:38
Das Login-Problem mit dem alten Kernel hat sich gelöst, danke. Jedoch besteht das Problem mit dem neuen Kernel immer noch, trotz hinzufügen und ausführen von update-grub

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT=1
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet systemd.show_status=1 nvidia_drm.modeset=1"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""


nvidia-smi zeigt:
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 535.216.03             Driver Version: 535.216.03   CUDA Version: 12.2     |
|-----------------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name                 Persistence-M | Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp   Perf          Pwr:Usage/Cap |         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|                                         |                      |               MIG M. |
|=========================================+======================+======================|
|   0  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060        Off | 00000000:05:00.0  On |                  N/A |
|  0%   45C    P8              13W / 170W |   1495MiB / 12288MiB |      1%      Default |
|                                         |                      |                  N/A |
+-----------------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+

Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Pip on 2024/12/21, 20:45:47
@CyrusQ maybe you could try what I did which gave a clue to the problem: boot with the new kernel, let it run to "reached target: graphical target" and then log in to a different terminal (ctrl-alt-f3) where you can run journalctl -xe (perhaps with | grep nvidia) to get some details on what's happened. Also, when you save those details, run startx to see if it works at all.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: CyrusQ on 2024/12/21, 21:27:49
@Pip: find attached the output from journalctl -xe | grep nvidia

startx gives the follwoing error:
xauth: file /root/.Xauthority does not exist
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: ruebe99 on 2024/12/21, 21:32:38
@CyrusQ
you must not be root. Try your usual user name
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: CyrusQ on 2024/12/21, 23:00:29
Okay, it seems that there are problems using the nvidia card with the new kernel (see attached Xorg.0.log)

Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Geier0815 on 2024/12/22, 10:00:40
Dem Log nach hast Du gar keinen nvidia-Treiber installiert bzw der wird nicht verwendet. Dein System versucht nouveau zu verwenden. Ist das richtig und gewollt so? Ansonsten stellt sich die Frage ob Du das siduction-fixes Repo aktiviert hast. Derzeit gibt es von towo einen gepatchten Nvidia-Treiber der mit dem neuesten Kernel funktioniert und der ist im genannten fixes-Repo
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: michaa7 on 2024/12/22, 10:09:09
Quote from: CyrusQ on 2024/12/21, 23:00:29
Okay, it seems that there are problems using the nvidia card with the new kernel (see attached Xorg.0.log)

It seems you need to enable drm. See: https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=9532.msg76008#msg76008
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: CyrusQ on 2024/12/22, 11:25:40
@Geier0815: Okay, die Quelle von @towo hatte ich noch nicht und habe sie jetzt hinzugefügt. Sollte ich den Eintrag "deb      https://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free non-free-firmware" dafür entfernen? Und da der Kernel jetzt schon gebaut wurde beim letzten Upgrade, wie erneuere ich den mit dem siduction-fixes repo?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Pip on 2024/12/22, 11:29:51
Back to the Kontact debacle: I downloaded the akonadi-server_22.12.3-2_amd64.deb and akonadi-backend-mysql_22.12.3-2_all.deb files to downgrade, which went ahead with no problems. Starting Kontact still gives a start-from-scratch page. I'll see if there are other packages I should be downgrading too and find out if that improves things.
However, starting kmail on its own works (which I'd neglected to try before), so I might just pause until the delete warnings go away on their own, put akonadi-server on hold too.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Geier0815 on 2024/12/22, 11:41:34
@CyrusQ,

nein das ist eine weitere Zeile in deiner siduction.list. Danach einfach ein apt update und ein apt full-upgrade durchführen, evtl. solltest Du den Solver 3.0 einbinden, wurde hier zur Genübe beschrieben. Dadurch das der Treiber "neuer" ist als der von debian, wird das Paket upgedatet bzw upgegradet und die Kernelmodule gebaut. Danach sollte es funktionieren.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: CyrusQ on 2024/12/22, 12:12:29
@Geier0815: Es wird mir leider trotzdem kein Kernel-Upgrade angeboten. Kann/Sollte ich irgendwie den zuletzt installieren Kernel oder nvidia Treiber löschen und es neu versuchen?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Pip on 2024/12/22, 12:39:22
@CyrusQ you can use an old kernel to log on, then remove the latest kernel and re-install it, though you'll probably need to re-install linux-image-siduction-amd64 and linux-headers-siduction-amd64 as well as they might be removed when you take away the kernel.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Pip on 2024/12/22, 12:43:01
I'm not sure if all modules get rebuilt if you just remove an old kernel.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/22, 12:43:45
Der Kernel wird schon aktuell sein. Du kannst es mit einem apt install --reinstall <knvidia-Treiber> versuchen. da wir alle im Blindflug operieren, wäre eine Info zu deinem derzeitigen System ganz hilfreich. Zum Beispiel inxi -bGr und apt search nvidia --names-only | grep installiert. Ich bin zwar aus der nvidia-Nummer raus, aber es könnte helfen, unsere Kristallkugeln beiseite zu legen.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: CyrusQ on 2024/12/22, 14:24:49
@edlin

inxi -bGr
QuoteSystem:
  Host: pc Kernel: 6.11.8-1-siduction-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 6.2.4 Distro: siduction 21.3.90 Wintersky - kde -
    (202208191036)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: B550 AORUS ELITE V2 v: N/A
    serial: N/A
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: B550 AORUS ELITE V2 v: x.x serial: N/A UEFI: American
    Megatrends LLC. v: F13 date: 07/08/2021
CPU:
  Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5600 [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 3594
    min/max: 550/4468
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GA106 [GeForce RTX 3060 Lite Hash Rate] driver: nvidia
    v: 535.216.03
  Display: unspecified server: X.Org v: 24.1.4 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.4
    driver: X: loaded: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa
    gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: 2560x1440~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: nvidia,swrast,zink
    platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 535.216.03
    renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060/PCIe/SSE2
  API: Vulkan v: 1.3.296 drivers: N/A surfaces: xcb,xlib
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE driver: r8169
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.19 TiB used: 7.61 TiB (93.0%)
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dbgsym.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/extra.list
    1: deb https://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/siduction/extra unstable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/fixes.list
    1: deb https://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/siduction/fixes unstable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/lutris.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/lutris.gpg] https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/strycore/Debian_12/ ./
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/siduction.list
    1: deb https://packages.siduction.org/extra unstable non-free contrib non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/teamviewer-keyring.gpg] https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable main
Info:
  Memory: total: 32 GiB available: 31.3 GiB used: 8.98 GiB (28.7%)
  Processes: 436 Uptime: 15h 45m Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.36

apt search nvidia --names-only | grep installiert
Quotelibgles-nvidia1/unstable,now 535.216.03-1 amd64  [installiert]
libgles-nvidia2/unstable,now 535.216.03-1 amd64  [installiert]
libnvidia-cfg1/unstable,now 535.216.03-1 amd64  [installiert]
nvidia-detect/unstable,now 535.216.03-1 amd64  [installiert]
nvidia-driver/unstable,now 535.216.03-1 amd64  [installiert]
nvidia-smi/unstable,now 535.216.03-1 amd64  [installiert]
nvidia-vulkan-icd/unstable,now 535.216.03-1 amd64  [installiert]

aus dem alten System mit dem 6.11.8.1 kernel
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/22, 14:52:40
Das ist ja schon mal ein Anfang. Du hängst also noch auf dem alten 6.11er Kernel ab.
Dann solltest du mal deine Sourcen ergänzen: Auch extras und fixes sollten den Eintrag ,,unstable main contrib non-free non-free-firmware" enthalten.
Und dann mal die vollständige Ausgabe von apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade posten.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Linax on 2024/12/22, 17:13:17
[language=english]
I stepped into the kde-plasma-qt6 trap by using
"apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade" approx 14 days ago and the kde-surface was not longer working properly ever since.
I've waited for apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade to solve the issue on its own - but for naught.
The kde6 and qt-files were kept back the hole time. I pressume because of some old korganizer or other "K-"stuff I do not use very often.
Today I was annoyed enough and did just a full-upgrade without --solver 3.0. Some stuff related to qt5 and kde were eleminated but now I've got back a functional desktop!

That means the -solver 3.0 optioen will not neither avoid all awkward packet-situations and even less will solve them *afterwards*.
[/language]
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: CyrusQ on 2024/12/22, 20:37:02
Quote from: edlin on 2024/12/22, 14:52:40
Dann solltest du mal deine Sourcen ergänzen: Auch extras und fixes sollten den Eintrag ,,unstable main contrib non-free non-free-firmware" enthalten.
Und dann mal die vollständige Ausgabe von apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade posten.

edlin

Thanks! Nachdem ich die Quellen ergänzt und das full-Upgrade mit dem Solver durchgeführt habe, wurde der neue Kernel mit nvidia erfolgreich installiert und läuft. Gelöst <3
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/23, 08:45:52
Ich frag mich gerade ernsthaft, ob ich mir den kde mit einem full-upgrade mit solver zerschiesse ... oder ob es relativ sicher ist.


[08:41:35][isegrimm@T-A-K-A-Y-A:~]$ apt update && apt --solver 3.0 full-upgrade
OK:1 https://deb.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease
OK:2 https://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable InRelease                                                                 
OK:3 https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/siduction/extra unstable InRelease                                                       
OK:4 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian trixie InRelease               
Aktualisierung für 28 Pakete verfügbar. Führen Sie »apt list --upgradable« aus, um sie anzuzeigen.
Upgrading:                                         
  accountwizard          akonadi-mime-data  akregator  k3b-data      kaddressbook-data  kalendarac       kde-standard  kdepim-addons   kdepim-themeeditors  kleopatra  konsolekalendar  libk3b-extracodecs  pim-data-exporter
  akonadi-contacts-data  akonadiconsole     k3b        kaddressbook  kalarm             kde-config-cddb  kdepim        kdepim-runtime  kio-audiocd          kmail      korganizer       mbox-importer       pim-sieve-editor

Installing dependencies:
  kmailtransport-plugins    libkf6calendarcore6               libkmime-data                     libkpim6calendarutils6              libkpim6kmanagesieve6         libkpim6messagelist6            libkpim6webengineviewer6
  libakonadicalendar-data   libkf6dav-data                    libkpim6addressbookimportexport6  libkpim6eventviews6                 libkpim6ksieve6               libkpim6messageviewer6          libkpimtextedit-data
  libakonadisearch-bin      libkf6dav6                        libkpim6akonadiagentbase6         libkpim6gapicalendar6               libkpim6ksievecore6           libkpim6mime6                   libksieve-data
  libakonadisearch-data     libkf6i18nqml6                    libkpim6akonadicalendar6          libkpim6gapicore6                   libkpim6ksieveui6             libkpim6mimetreeparser6         libksmtp-data
  libakonadisearch-plugins  libkf6textautocorrectionwidgets1  libkpim6akonadicontactcore6       libkpim6gapipeople6                 libkpim6ldapwidgets6          libkpim6mimetreeparsercore6     libktnef-data
  libcalendarsupport-data   libkf6textgrammarcheck1           libkpim6akonadicontactwidgets6    libkpim6gapitasks6                  libkpim6libkleo6              libkpim6mimetreeparserwidgets6  libmailcommon-data
  libeventviews-data        libkf6texttranslator1             libkpim6akonadimime6              libkpim6gravatar6                   libkpim6mailcommon6           libkpim6pimcommonactivities6    libmailimporter-data
  libgravatar-data          libkgantt-l10n                    libkpim6akonadisearchcore6        libkpim6identitymanagementcore6     libkpim6mailimporter6         libkpim6pimcommonakonadi6       libmimetreeparser-data
  libincidenceeditor-data   libkgantt6-3                      libkpim6akonadisearchdebug6       libkpim6identitymanagementwidgets6  libkpim6mailimporterakonadi6  libkpim6pkpass6                 libqt6networkauth6
  libk3b8t64                libkimap-data                     libkpim6akonadisearchpim6         libkpim6imap6                       libkpim6mailtransport6        libkpim6smtp6                   messagelib-data
  libkcalendarutils-data    libkitinerary-data                libkpim6akonadisearchxapian6      libkpim6importwizard6               libkpim6mbox6                 libkpim6templateparser6
  libkcddb6-5               libkleo-data                      libkpim6akonadixml6               libkpim6incidenceeditor6            libkpim6messagecomposer6      libkpim6textedit6
  libkcompactdisc6-5        libkmailtransport-data            libkpim6calendarsupport6          libkpim6itinerary6                  libkpim6messagecore6          libkpim6tnef6

Not upgrading:
  libunwind8  r-bioc-biocstyle

REMOVING:
  kde-config-mailtransport  libkf5akonadicalendar-data  libkf5akonadisearch-plugins  libkf5eventviews5abi1       libkf5ksieveui5             libkf5mailtransport-data       libkf5messagelist5abi1t64     libkpimaddressbookimportexport5
  kf5-messagelib-data       libkf5akonadicalendar5abi1  libkf5calendarsupport5abi1   libkf5incidenceeditor5abi1  libkf5libkleo-data          libkf5mailtransport5           libkf5messageviewer5abi1t64   libkpimimportwizard5
  kmailtransport-akonadi    libkf5akonadicontact5       libkf5cddb5                  libkf5kmanagesieve5         libkf5libkleo5              libkf5mailtransportakonadi5    libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1t64  libkpimitinerary-data
  knotes                    libkf5akonadimime5          libkf5compactdisc5           libkf5ksieve-data           libkf5mailcommon5abi2       libkf5messagecomposer5abi1t64  libkf5pimcommonakonadi5abi1   libkpimitinerary5
  libk3b8                   libkf5akonadisearch-bin     libkf5contacteditor5         libkf5ksieve5               libkf5mailimporterakonadi5  libkf5messagecore5abi1t64      libkf5templateparser5t64

Summary:
  Upgrading: 26, Installing: 88, Removing: 39, Not Upgrading: 2
  Download size: 53,0 MB
  Space needed: 32,9 MB / 311 GB available

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Abbruch.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/23, 09:18:40
Ich weiß, du bist ein gebranntes Kind, aber ich sehe nichts, was dein KDE/Plasma komplett zerschießen würde. Es gibt nur einen Punkt: Momentan rumpelt es bei Akonadi, KMail, Kontact etc. Wenn du das nicht benutzt, kein Problem - habs schon die Tage durch.
Siehe auch: https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=9511.msg76102#msg76102 (https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=9511.msg76102#msg76102)

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/24, 12:27:59
Moin ... und ein frohes und besinnliches Fest Euch allen ...

@Edlin:
Ich nutze - wissentlich - keines der genannten Pakete. Was ich ggf. befürchte, ist, dass eines der zu löschenden Pakete ggf. "über Bande" eine andere Anwendung beeinflusst. Hatte ich schon mal.

Ich wollte ein Paket löschen, das ich vorher installierte (ich weiß heute nicht mehr welches), es sollten aber weitaus mehr Pakete gelöscht werden, als vorher als dependencies mitinstalliert wurden.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/24, 13:03:28
apt zeigt dir vor dem full-upgrade alle Pakete an, die entfernt werden sollen. Während des Upgrades kommen keine neuen hinzu.

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/25, 12:32:50
Quote from: edlin on 2024/12/23, 09:18:40
Ich weiß, du bist ein gebranntes Kind, aber ich sehe nichts, was dein KDE/Plasma komplett zerschießen würde. [...]

edlin

Und so war es auch.

Ich habe - zur Sicherheit - vorher noch mit einem systemctl stop sddm die grafische Oberfläche verlassen und das full-upgrade (plus solver) nur aus der tty heraus durchgeführt.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: bad_aptitude on 2024/12/28, 04:24:30
I have had a working Plasma desktop since I dist-upgraded from the latest live iso  2 weeks ago.
Today I did a dist-upgrade with solver 3.0 . This resulted in frozen desktop; though I can still initiate a terminal.
I redid the dist-upgrade without solver and it indicated there were no new files, no files to update and no files to remove. ie the system was up-to-date.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Pip on 2024/12/28, 10:29:03
Perhaps a few more details would be useful, to clarify what's happening for those who can't see it.
Is that a frozen desktop immediately after the upgrade or after a reboot? Does the reboot give any clues of something being wrong with
sudo journalctl -xe
sudo dmesg | grep -Ei "error|fail"

What exactly is a frozen desktop? Is the desktop fully presented but the mouse doesn't move and the keyboard doesn't allow you to Alt-Tab to another window? Is it freezing before it's fully presented?
I take it you've re-visited the suggestions edlin made when last you were having problems. Did they show anything or does the frozen desktop block you from doing them?
When you first get to the SDDM  login page, have you tried jumping to a terminal before the login to run journalctl -f and then see what the output is when you do log in?
Sorry for all the questions instead of answers: I'm not of the high-intellectual standard of some folk on here, so I have to start from the basics.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: bad_aptitude on 2024/12/28, 22:54:46
@pip Thanks for the troubleshooting ideas and questions.
The desktop worked after the upgrade but stopped working after I rebooted. I have been using wayland prior to the dist upgrade and continued with wayland after rebooting.  I tried booting the previous kernel but get the same "frozen" result.
sudo journalctl -xe   yielded 
ec 28 13:14:24 kent-libux onedrive[6919]: Starting a sync with Microsoft OneDrive
Dec 28 13:14:24 kent-libux onedrive[6919]: Fetching items from the OneDrive API for Drive ID: 1a2a214c4a34ccc8 ..
Dec 28 13:14:24 kent-libux onedrive[6919]: No changes or items that can be applied were discovered while processing the data >
Dec 28 13:14:25 kent-libux onedrive[6919]: Performing a database consistency and integrity check on locally stored data .
Dec 28 13:14:25 kent-libux onedrive[6919]: Scanning the local file system '~/OneDrive' for new data to upload .
Dec 28 13:14:25 kent-libux onedrive[6919]: Performing a last examination of the most recent online data within Microsoft OneD>
Dec 28 13:14:25 kent-libux onedrive[6919]: Fetching items from the OneDrive API for Drive ID: 1a2a214c4a34ccc8 .
Dec 28 13:14:25 kent-libux onedrive[6919]: No changes or items that can be applied were discovered while processing the data >
Dec 28 13:14:25 kent-libux onedrive[6919]: Sync with Microsoft OneDrive is complete
Dec 28 13:15:12 kent-libux systemd[4538]: Started app-org.kde.konsole@4de27878f4214ddc88a6204c7bb3daed.service - Konsole - Te>
░░ Subject: A start job for unit UNIT has finished successfully
░░ Defined-By: systemd
░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support
░░
░░ A start job for unit UNIT has finished successfully.
░░
░░ The job identifier is 585.
Dec 28 13:15:12 kent-libux systemd[4538]: Started app-org.kde.konsole-10781.scope.
░░ Subject: A start job for unit UNIT has finished successfully
░░ Defined-By: systemd
░░ Support: https://www.debian.org/support
░░
░░ A start job for unit UNIT has finished successfully.
░░
░░ The job identifier is 608.


sudo dmesg | grep -Ei "error|fail"  yielded
[    0.008306] [Firmware Bug]: TSC ADJUST differs within socket(s), fixing all errors
[    3.566044] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: firmware: failed to load iwl-debug-yoyo.bin (-2)


My wifi is working since I am writing this from firefox(command line in a console window) on the affected laptop.[I can get a console with "ctl alt t"]
By "frozen" I mean unresponsive desktop and deformed toolbar. Mouse clicks on the desktop have no effect. Also right mouse clicks have no effect. The mouse moves and windows, that were already open, as well as windows opened from command line, behave normally.  I had a dolphin window open from prior to the dist-upgrade and it responds normally. The folders visible on the desktop are not responsive. The desktop wallpaper is as expected; though it was set as a slide show but only one image appears.
The toolbar at the bottom of the screen is unresponsive to mouse clicks and all of the launcher icons are crowded on top of each other. The left side toolbar is missing.
I also tried X windows after trying wayland. X windows showed my left side tool bar but the icons were jumping up and down. Otherwise the desktop was the same as in the wayland session.




Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Pip on 2024/12/29, 10:08:44
A suggestion for finding out a bit more about where the problem lies: create a new user, then log in as them through SDDM. If the new user has the same problems, it's likely a general problem with your installation. If not, the issue might lie in your own user's configuration.
Is there anything in ~/OneDrive that is part of your configuration? Just wondering about the different ways Linux and Windows have hyphens and quotes stored.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: Isegrimm666 on 2024/12/29, 10:15:09
Moin ...

Seit einigen Wochen hängen diese beiden Pakete bei mir immer noch ohne upgrade rum ...
Not upgrading:
  libunwind8  r-bioc-biocstyle


Gibt's da mittlerweile was drüber?
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: edlin on 2024/12/29, 10:58:16
@Isegrimm666: Nichts Neues.
libunwind8 ist bei mir installiert; hing bei dir wohl wegen der 386er wine-Sachen fest (und macht es wohl noch immer)
apt policy libunwind8
libunwind8:
  Installiert:           1.7.2-1
  Installationskandidat: 1.7.2-1
  Versionstabelle:
*** 1.7.2-1 500
        500 http://cdn.debian.net/debian sid/main amd64 Packages

r-bioc-biocstyle: Fehlende Abhängigkeiten. Da kannst du nur schauen, ob es was beim Entwickler gibt.
r-bioc-biocstyle:

Es wurde keine installierbare Version des Pakets r-bioc-biocstyle gefunden, obwohl ein Eintrag in der Datenbank besteht.
Das deutet für gewöhnlich darauf hin, dass das Paket als Abhängigkeit erwähnt, aber nie hochgeladen wurde, dass es veraltet ist oder dass die entsprechende Paketquelle unter »Einstellungen → Paketquellen« fehlt.

Es fehlt wohl gänzlich das Paket r-api-bioc-3.20: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=r-api-bioc-3.20&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all (https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=r-api-bioc-3.20&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all)

edlin
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: bad_aptitude on 2024/12/29, 19:17:11
@pip  Thanks for the suggestion.
My new user had a functioning desktop. Moreover when I then rebooted into my old user the desktop functioned enough that I could remove what was probably the offending toolbar/launcher.
So problem solved ... for now ;)
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: debsid on 2025/01/07, 11:47:18
How are people here dealing with the KMail /Akonadi upgrade issue? On my main laptop, using solver 3.0 seems to give a workable solution, but a pure full-upgrade will remove KMail and various other packages marking loads of packages as automatically installed but removable. On my test laptop, Kmail and Akonadi upgraded just fine.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: debsid on 2025/01/07, 12:25:35
Quote from: debsid on 2025/01/07, 11:47:18
How are people here dealing with the KMail /Akonadi upgrade issue? On my main laptop, using solver 3.0 seems to give a workable solution, but a pure full-upgrade will remove KMail and various other packages marking loads of packages as automatically installed but removable. On my test laptop, Kmail and Akonadi upgraded just fine.

I solved my problem by first issuing sudo apt install kmail, which upgraded KMail and associates,removed some packages but nothing essential, then update and then full-upgrade. Everything seems to have worked.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: michaa7 on 2025/01/07, 12:27:09
Quote from: debsid on 2025/01/07, 11:47:18
... pure full-upgrade will remove KMail and various other packages...

Easy. Don't call it pure full-upgrade. Call it soon-to-be-deceased-solver full-upgrade and it should be obvious.

But note: I'm not using KDE.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: debsid on 2025/01/07, 12:52:28
Quote from: michaa7 on 2025/01/07, 12:27:09
Quote from: debsid on 2025/01/07, 11:47:18
... pure full-upgrade will remove KMail and various other packages...

Easy. Don't call it pure full-upgrade. Call it soon-to-be-deceased-solver full-upgrade and it should be obvious.

But note: I'm not using KDE.

I didn't want the solver solution because it wanted to install packages that I don't need such as hugin. My route gave me a cleaner upgrade and things seem to have worked.

Generally, very happy with KDE Plasma 6 with the exception of scaling which is still not working properly under Wayland.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: ro_sid on 2025/01/07, 15:13:58
Everything you use will finally be available (now) after an upgrade again, with one exception: knotes.
All KDE programs have suitable replacements, all libraries, too.
Should you miss a program, you can easily (re-)install it.

I do know, because I did it - but I did it with aptitude, which resulted in not losing/reinstalling a program, because I could interactively upgrade the components until there was no conflict any longer.
Title: Re: Warning: Plasma 6 migrating to Sid
Post by: debsid on 2025/01/07, 16:51:28
Quote from: ro_sid on 2025/01/07, 15:13:58
Everything you use will finally be available (now) after an upgrade again, with one exception: knotes.
All KDE programs have suitable replacements, all libraries, too.
Should you miss a program, you can easily (re-)install it.

I do know, because I did it - but I did it with aptitude, which resulted in not losing/reinstalling a program, because I could interactively upgrade the components until there was no conflict any longer.

I upgraded to Plasma 6 a while ago, but had been waiting for the KMail/Akonadi conflict to be resolved, which, strangely enough, wasn't an issue on the test laptop. With upgrading/installing KMail on its own first, I avoided its removal and full-upgraded the system in a second step. All went well.