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Title: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/17, 20:52:04
I have installed the latest version on 2 different machines and logging in gets no response.  The live versions work on both machines before installing.  Is there a password length or character requirement?
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: scholle1 on 2025/03/17, 21:19:48
Welcome to siduction.

Did you set a user and root password during installation?
QuoteIs there a password length or character requirement?
No, but  but strongly recommended to set both.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/17, 21:24:22
Yes, I set a username and password on both machines during the installation, I was wondering if there is a password length requirement maybe?  My keyboard is the english default, the install goes on no problem, boots to the sign in screen but then no response from the keyboard. I tried logging in as Root also but same response.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/17, 21:25:52
when I say no response from the keyboard, I mean, I can type the letters but pressing enter or clicking on login has no response.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/17, 21:28:11
Also, I am installing the KDE Plasma version.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: scholle1 on 2025/03/17, 21:40:41
Which ISO did you use?

https://isobuilds.siduction.org/kde/siduction-2024.1.0-Shine_on-kde-amd64-202412261719.iso

Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/17, 21:45:05
siduction-2024.1.0-Shine_on-kde-amd64-202412261719.iso
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/17, 21:46:10
I just downloaded the LXQT ISO, I'm going to try that to see if I get the same result.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/17, 21:59:27
Just installed the LXQT on Vbox and it logged in fine, I'm currently installing on the other machine.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: scholle1 on 2025/03/17, 22:04:24
First try to reset the password (two variants):
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/17, 22:34:40
Just an FYI, the LXQT installed and logged in no problem.  Maybe something with the KDE ISO?
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: scholle1 on 2025/03/17, 22:54:02
Not really. Try it again on one of your machines.
Many new packages have arrived since December 2024, especially Plasma 6.

Please read the manual. Then perform a full upgrade.
Go to the multi-user target with <Strg> + <Alt> + <F3>, login as root and
init 3
apt update && apt full-upgrade

More than 1000 packages will probably be updated.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/17, 23:00:53
Neither one of those options did anything.  Pressing enter or clicking on the login button gets no response, almost like they aren't active.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: scholle1 on 2025/03/17, 23:06:40
If you can log into a terminal with one of the two variants, then try a "apt full-upgrade" as described above.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: ro_sid on 2025/03/18, 10:30:08
This is a periodically (re-)appearing effect, that to my knowledge is unique to the combination of the "sddm" display manager and KDE/plasma. The effect is, that the enter/return key does not do anything. I, myself, experienced it regularly when upgrading a live (Siduction) KDE-iso image. Sometimes even the window-decorations get lost.

Why am I telling this: Apart from @scholle1's valuable tip to boot into a terminal screen instead of the graphical greeting screen, you can also always do it, even once you are "on sddm". The "ctrl-alt-F?"-mechanism still works, even then!
So press (e.g. ctrl-alt-F3) and you are on a terminal window ("F1" contains the startup messages, "F2" is the sddm-screen"). After logging in from there, you can do anything that does not require "graphics", especially you can update/upgrade.
Usually after some time, when sddm/kde/plasma/qt got their act together, everything works "normal" again!
Such things only happen with rolling releases or sid/unstable (or experimental) versions, not the stable ones and rarely in testing(/trixie). It is the price we have to pay for it, especially during transitions.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: towo on 2025/03/18, 12:21:45
1. login on tty
2. become root
3. apt update && apt install plasma-desktop plasma-workspace

Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/18, 16:00:25
I did the full upgrade as stated above.  Still no change.  I'll try the ctrl-alt-F idea.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/18, 16:01:54
Thanks towo, I will try that option also.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: bearsfan on 2025/03/18, 16:54:43
That appears to have fixed it.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Installed on 2 different machines, Can't login
Post by: uidzes on 2025/04/04, 21:40:11
I had the same issue, updating via console worked fine, some 1100 packages were upgraded, the problem, however, was not fixed by this.
As the problem did not exist some weeks ago, I tried to install without network connection, then after initial reboot I was able to login, establish a network connection and performed the usual apt update, apt full-upgrade --solver 3.0 which resulted in more than 1800 packages to be upgraded. System now ok.