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Title: siduction release date?
Post by: mrneilypops on 2011/10/21, 21:00:20
I am very much looking forward to trying this distro.
Are you near a release date?
Will there be a pre release alpha to test?
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: devil on 2011/10/21, 21:54:47
We plan on releasing at the end of the year. Right now we are still on schedule. There will be different levels of testing pre-releases, but we have not determined yet, when there will be a first public one. Right now we plan on starting build-cycles and initial internal testing in about 2 weeks. Lets see how that goes. I will keep you posted in the Blog (http://news.siduction.org)

greetz
devil
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: Lanzi on 2011/10/22, 21:54:52
Thats good news...

@Devil: if you need somebody fpr alpha/beta-tests, I will be ready.
Title: RE: siduction release date?
Post by: hinto on 2011/12/08, 18:13:53
can we mention the "evil script" here that has been banned on the previous SID forums that was used to help with dist-upgrades?
-H
Title: Re: RE: siduction release date?
Post by: michaaa62 on 2011/12/08, 18:40:44
Quote from: hinto
can we mention the "evil script" here that has been banned on the previous SID forums that was used to help with dist-upgrades?
-H
You might mention anything you want if you do it in the experimental http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?board=10.0
Apart from the mentioning, you will not get much help, because nobody really knows what smxi is doing, you will have to ask at smxi.org.
Title: RE: Re: RE: siduction release date?
Post by: hinto on 2011/12/08, 22:04:22
^ That would be fine. (I currently do).  I just wouldn't want to get inadvertently banned from the forum.
-H
Title: RE: Re: RE: siduction release date?
Post by: devil on 2011/12/08, 22:33:22
Dont worry, you have to be a real bad boy to get banned here. This wont work by mentioning software, we do not like, promote, find obsolete etc :) I like Harald Hope and we share none of the antipathy that was sown in sidux days by some people that believe, their own believes must be imposed on a community as a whole. So feel free to discuss smxi, as long as it stays civil.

greetz
devil
Title: RE: Re: RE: siduction release date?
Post by: otto on 2011/12/12, 02:30:55
dear buddies,
Let bygones be bygones! It's a good saying for the siduction time.
cheers.
Title: RE: Re: RE: siduction release date?
Post by: hinto on 2011/12/13, 17:40:12
yep... I'm itchin' for an install ;)
-Hinto
Title: RE: Re: RE: siduction release date?
Post by: DeepDayze on 2011/12/18, 03:02:14
Hello all, I'm interested in this new distro too...and yes also wanted to break free of *cough*Aptosid*cough* and getting tired of the silly politics there as well

as for smxi, h2's got a great forum as well as an IRC channel for those who need help with smxi or to report any bugs in smxi/sgfxi or related scripts.

Why not offer h2 an invite here if he's interested? He's been around the old kanotix and sidux forums until the time he was unceremoniously banned from there.
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: ReinerS on 2011/12/18, 12:19:51
Well at least those scripts will not be treated as "evil" over here. If h2 could in some way gets here involved as DeepDayze suggested would be even better. Lets see how it will evolve.

regards

Reiner
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: devil on 2011/12/18, 14:25:54
i talked to h2, as we never had any personal or other problems between the 2 of us. We agreed that we will not promote or support smxi, but not suppress questions or information about it anyways, as long as it stays civil and outside the realm of trolling.

greetz
devil
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: DeepDayze on 2011/12/18, 16:55:03
Quote from: "devil"
i talked to h2, as we never had any personal or other problems between the 2 of us. We agreed that we will not promote or support smxi, but not suppress questions or information about it anyways, as long as it stays civil and outside the realm of trolling.

greetz
devil


makes sense...like I said, maybe a thread or subsection just for basic support or questions about smxi that he can answer much like there used to be over at sidux forum back in the day. I'm sure h2 himself would never allow any sort of trolling anyway.
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: DeepDayze on 2011/12/18, 16:58:52
On another note,what about discussions about codecs/multimedia or other sensitive topics? Will that also follow the same rules as aptosid has? Perhaps an IRC channel should be set up for siduction if not already created so sensitive topics can be discussed off the forum for the safety of all.
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: cryptosteve on 2011/12/18, 17:36:59
Multimedia stuff can be discussed here. And we are not as restrict as aptosid is in this point.

But there are some irc-channels at irc.oftc.net (e.g. #siduction, #siduction-de, #siduction-core, #siduction-dev, #siduction-art, #siduction-doc - all wide open for everyone).
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: DeepDayze on 2011/12/18, 20:05:40
Quote from: "cryptosteve"
Multimedia stuff can be discussed here. And we are not as restrict as aptosid is in this point.

But there are some irc-channels at irc.oftc.net (e.g. #siduction, #siduction-de, #siduction-core, #siduction-dev, #siduction-art, #siduction-doc - all wide open for everyone).


Thanks, that's good to know.:)
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: paleoflatus on 2011/12/24, 01:17:05
I like the comments from devil, cryptosteve etc. For some time, I've used aptosid for installs, then abandoned it for h2's scripts. I'd have enjoyed a closer liaison between the two, but was forced to choose, so aptosid became simply a convenient sid installer.
I did a faultless siduction install on a spare partition yesterday and I like it. Hopefully we've all found a new home at last.
Congratulations, Team!
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: devil on 2011/12/24, 01:24:07
make yerself comfty.
and happy holydays to all of you :)

greetz
devil
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: DeepDayze on 2011/12/24, 02:14:51
I use h2's scripts mainly to set up a fresh install quickly and then use apt-get for the dist upgrades and watching what apt says before going on.

Welcome on over paleoflatus...your nick I remember even from the Kanotix days too

Siduction sure is seducing (or is it siducing :D )
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: paleoflatus on 2011/12/25, 22:46:47
Thanks for the welcome. DeepDayze, Kanotix take us back a fair way and it's always been a good ride. After a few days' trial on a spare partition, I formatted my root partition and a full new install of siduction not only went well, but it continues to run perfectly for me. For anyone interested, I left my aptosid/sid home partition intact, which saved a lot of configuration etc. All I had to do was install software for my cheap Ralink USB wifi modem and apt-get update/install a few programmes like iView, Chrome, Luckybackup etc. to join up with their config files in my home directory.
My only glitch was that I forgot to add the boot flag to the new root partition and had to re-run gparted off the DVD to fix it. I wonder whether this could be made to happen automatically when users select their boot partition during an install?
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: devil on 2011/12/25, 22:58:13
I guess, you installed grub to partition, otherwise there is no need for a bootflag that i know of. We would have to look into the possible disadvantages of a default bootflag.

greetz
devil
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: paleoflatus on 2011/12/25, 23:26:42
Quote from: "devil"
I guess, you installed grub to partition, otherwise there is no need for a bootflag that i know of. We would have to look into the possible disadvantages of a default bootflag.

greetz
devil
devil,
It's good to have you there again. Actually, I deleted sda1 and sda2, then combined the space to format a new sda1 with ext4, neglecting to add the boot flag. I may have overlooked something, but I put grub into sda and I thought it landed in the MBR. Anyway, it was easily fixed with the DVD and a quick visit to gparted.
After over 15 years with linux, I'm still a very simple user!
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: paleoflatus on 2011/12/25, 23:31:36
By the way, I forgot to add that I also installed moc. I listen to a lot of music (Der Rosenkavalier and Oscar Peterson yesterday) and it's my favourite ultra-convenient music player.
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: devil on 2011/12/26, 00:19:46
moc is preinstalled already, because i really like it.

greetz
devil
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: DeepDayze on 2011/12/26, 01:06:52
So far my test siduction install's pretty darn solid...a bit faster than my aptosid install got to say. Going to take the plunge and copy my install over after formatting the aptosid partition plus adjusting fstab and grub.
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: Lanzi on 2011/12/26, 02:24:17
I can confirm DeepDayze verdict :-)
I am experimenting all evening long now with a notebookinstall, and I am very content!
This release Candidate is already rockstable and runs thanks to towos kernel really fast (KDE install).
I am very happy and grateful! Thanks everybody!

PS: paleoflatus, I remember you too from Kanotix-Days. Welcome back onboard!
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: ReinerS on 2011/12/26, 03:36:02
Same experience over here. My daughter just visited over the holydays with the usual task of updationg her laptop.

While I am surely not updatimng with the sicduction rc1 I however took the chance to test it with the XFce amd64 dvd.

This laptop (an compag 615) had given me quite an amount of headaches in the past because of its naughty BIOS. I had used Kernels from different sources (aptosid, liquorix and debian-sid) which sometimes worked but some time later didn't.

Last time I reinstalled finally from an debian-netinstall-cd from testing and upgrading the installation afterwards all the way to sid. Aptosid-dvds didn't boot at all.

So now with the siduction rc1 dvd I could choose my country setting and the boot straigth away trough up to the X/XFce--surface.
Feels very rock-solid and promising. Well some little issues are coming up but those are more of the cosmetical type, nor real showstoppers to see.


regards

Reiner
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: paleoflatus on 2011/12/26, 07:08:47
Devil,
My humbles. Come to think of it, I included moc in the list after apt-get install and there was a message about it already being there. Glad you like it too - I worked my way through university many years ago playing jazz piano, after turning down a scholarship in classical piano. for me, moc's all I need for music and I love it.

Lanzi,
I'm flattered to be remembered by all of you old nicks. It's great that we're all still following the same star and you make me feel at home again.
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: Richard on 2011/12/26, 07:58:13
Hello. Really nice to see so many familiar nicks.
 
It had been fun: kanotix, sidux, then finally out.
Like many, I finally left sidux after h2 was banned.
I didn't get banned 'cause I didn't talk about
using sidux as an installer for testing. :)
Bluewater suggested it would probably not go over well.

Downloading now and looking forward to installing
a partition with siduction-xfce.
[Done. Looks very polished. Thanks for a job well done!]

I've been using SalineOS all year. A great way
to run stable. I'll keep it up-to-date as a safety net.

See lots of hits on Distrowatch for the new
RC release. Seems many have been waiting for
a change in the sid tide.
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: dzz on 2011/12/26, 21:22:27
Congratulations siduction team on the new release.

I see many familiar names from my time with kanotix and sidux, whose posts I enjoyed reading and learned a lot from. Greetings to you all.

I left sidux shortly after kde4 came in because I was not happy with the direction sid in general was taking and have used stable as main OS since. What happened to the community side of sidux itself, made absolutely sure I never returned, the scorpion summed it all up quite well.

 I never had actual technical difficulty in the past and always knew some day I would be running sid again. Maybe now is the time. I’m finding xfce lately more than just usable

Here still exists a working system originally installed from kanotix, dist-upgraded to the time I left sidux, which survived numerous changes of hard disk and mainboard.

I have already a persistent siduction xfce on a usb stick and like it to the point that where I go next is under total review. How I did that install (not fll2usb)  is a little unusual and a subject for another time.

I read somewhere, the installer can put grub in PBR (i.e. not trash my current carefully-customised legacy mbr) if that's correct I can go ahead with a proper install (grub2 was one of my past major annoyances with sid)
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: mandog on 2011/12/28, 22:15:49
Well i hope this all stays like this and yes i'm a ex Sidux user and left when H2 was banned it got to political and the abuse that was starting to get thrown to users just was not worth it so i went to Parsix another Kantanix spin off and found Alan a great guy vowing never to have anything to do with anything associated with Sidux or any spin off, well here I am I'm either mad or impressed with what I read hopefully this could be a turning point as Sidux was so good but the politics were disgusting.
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: devil on 2011/12/28, 22:24:22
you got the idea :)

greetz
devil
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: gunmetalsid on 2012/01/01, 11:34:44
Just wanna say, "Congrats on Final Release of siduction 11.1
sidux reborn = siduction. Hail to Debian Sid, ROCK ON!!!!

Regards,
gunmetalsid
Title: siduction release date?
Post by: DeepDayze on 2012/01/01, 18:57:39
Congrats team on a fine release...downloading it and about to wipe aptosid off my main partition :)