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Title: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: vilde on 2015/03/24, 11:23:55
Yesterday i installed a newer version of iceweasel from debian experimental, today I found a little grey "smiley" on the toolbar, that was Firefox Hello (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/). I did join me and my wife, tried it and, sometimes I can "phone" my contact sometimes nothing happens, when it works the communication is good. It's still betaversion but maybe and hopefully that can make me get rid of the skype-shit soon.

Anybody else tried it?
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: Dachs on 2015/03/25, 20:01:00
hey,
I tried it on my girlfriends computer too, didn't  have too many problems. Although I know very little about it, where does it sit in terms of FSF and open source? I assumed because it was coming from firefox it would be ok, but it did have a 'in association with Telefonica' on it so I'm not so sure. Anyone know?
 
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: piper on 2015/03/26, 01:54:00
Yes, this is open source, it's been out since firefox 34 or october 16, 2014  (I use firefox 39)
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: vilde on 2015/03/26, 09:47:20
I also thought about if it was open source, thanks piper, now I just want a it to work on phones also.
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: Dachs on 2015/03/26, 11:45:46
yeah, thanks piper, good to know. Just tested it on my machine running siduction but because its running iceweasel the latest release is still on 31.5.3 so I can receive call but no make them until I either install Firefox proper or wait until iceweasel catches up. 
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: piper on 2015/03/26, 11:55:51
Quote from: Dachs
yeah, thanks piper, good to know. Just tested it on my machine running siduction but because its running iceweasel the latest release is still on 31.5.3 so I can receive call but no make them until I either install Firefox proper or wait until iceweasel catches up. 
If you want a newer version of iceweasel use  http://mozilla.debian.net/
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: titan on 2015/03/27, 09:48:43
its running iceweasel the latest release is still on 31.5.3

36 is in experimental
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: Dachs on 2015/03/27, 15:08:24
if I follow the instructions on http://mozilla.debian.net/ it looks like I will be adding the entire experimental repository to my /etc/apt/sources.list would that mess up my system if I'm already using the unstable repository? I know the instructions say quite clearly "I am running unstable and I want to install iceweasel" but I can't help feeling I might break my system somehow.
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: titan on 2015/03/27, 17:31:29
I meant installing from Debian experimental not Mozilla.
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: vilde on 2015/03/27, 18:49:37
Maybe everybody knows how to but:

Add debian experimental in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ (http://http.debian.net/debian/) experimental main contrib non-free"

apt-get update

apt-get -t experimental install iceweasel

As I understan debian experimental can always be in your sources list, apt will only bring something from experimental if you tell it to do so.
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: musca on 2015/03/27, 20:30:04
Hello vilde,

you are right, but ... not every experimental repo has such a low priority as the debian experimental.
I marked the priority in red colour.

LC_MESSAGES=C apt-cache policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
  Installed: 31.5.3esr-1
  Candidate: 38.0~a2+20150227004023-2
  Version table:
     38.0~a2+20150227004023-2 0
        500 http://mozilla.debian.net/ (http://mozilla.debian.net/) experimental/iceweasel-aurora amd64 Packages
     37.0~b1-1 0
        500 http://mozilla.debian.net/ (http://mozilla.debian.net/) experimental/iceweasel-beta amd64 Packages
     36.0.4-1 0
          1 http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ (http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/) experimental/main amd64 Packages
 *** 31.5.3esr-1 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ (http://http.debian.net/debian/) unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


The beta or alpha development versions will become your installation candidates as soon as you add the mozilla.debian.net experimental repo.
You can use pinning to set your own priorities (man apt_preferences).

greetings
musca
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: bluelupo on 2015/03/27, 20:54:13
Hi community,
alternatively, can you (instead of Iceweasel) install directly from Mozilla also the "original" Firefox. This has the advantage that the latest versions are there faster. Disadvantage is that you installed outside of the package management.

On the ftp server of Mozilla, you can choose between the official releases, betas and nightly versions (tar-ball).

Download from here: ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: piper on 2015/03/28, 13:01:22
I use both firefox & thunderbird nightlys since it came out many moons ago

The way I install if interested (works on stable builds also)

http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=1749.msg15417#msg15417

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Stable release

36.0.4 (March 21, 2015; 6 days ago
ESR 31.5.3 (March 21, 2015; 6 days ago


Preview release

Beta

37.0 Beta 7 (March 20, 2015; 7 days ago

Developer Edition

38.0a2 (February 27, 2015; 28 days ago

Nightly

39.0a1 (February 23, 2015; 32 days ago
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: KrunchTime on 2015/05/03, 23:57:27
There's also the Jitsi project (https://jitsi.org)
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: titan on 2015/05/04, 10:45:58
The latest FB messenger gives video messaging PC to PC or phone to phone but not atm phone to pc it works fine for me.
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: vilde on 2015/05/04, 11:29:03
The goal is, no FB, no Google and no Ms    :)
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: piper on 2015/05/04, 16:17:36
Quote from: vilde
The goal is, no FB, no Google and no Ms    (http://forum.siduction.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)

I agree no FB, MS,  but,   I do need some Google, very light version of gapps (phone)
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: vilde on 2015/05/04, 16:53:26
Quote from: vilde
The goal is, no FB, no Google and no Ms    (http://forum.siduction.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)

I agree no FB, MS,  but,   I do need some Google, very light version of gapps (phone)
yes, that's my position for now also
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: H-Cl on 2015/05/04, 20:54:19
There's also the Jitsi project (https://jitsi.org)
Looks interesting but I can't install because there are some dependency problems

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Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
 libjitsi-jni : Hängt ab von: libavcodec55 (>= 6:10~beta1~) ist aber nicht installierbar oder
                               libavcodec-extra-55 (>= 6:10.1) ist aber nicht installierbar
                Hängt ab von: libavfilter4 (>= 6:10~beta1~) ist aber nicht installierbar
                Hängt ab von: libavformat55 (>= 6:10~beta1~) ist aber nicht installierbar
                Hängt ab von: libavutil53 (>= 6:10~beta1~) ist aber nicht installierbar
                Hängt ab von: libswscale2 (>= 6:10~beta1~) ist aber nicht installierbar
E: Probleme können nicht korrigiert werden, Sie haben zurückgehaltene defekte Pakete.
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: harley-peter on 2015/05/28, 18:03:42
Is it possible to share a desktop or another window or another browser tab with firefox hello?
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: pit on 2015/05/28, 20:37:17
Is it possible to share a desktop or another window or another browser tab with firefox hello?
It should be possible to share single windows but not your entire desktop:
(http://paste.siduction.org/20150528183123.jpg)

(http://paste.siduction.org/20150528183203.jpg)

Maybe I see you in irc. We could check it out then.
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: harley-peter on 2015/05/29, 15:58:20
Hhmm ... with my firefox hello it is not possible.
Firefox version 38.0.1
Title: Re: Firefox Hello, instead of the skype-shit
Post by: pit on 2015/05/29, 23:56:25
Sorry, my fault. I added another repository:

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deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental iceweasel-aurora
And this is my iceweasel version:

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$ apt-cache policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
  Installiert:           40.0~a2+20150527004004-1
  Installationskandidat: 40.0~a2+20150527004004-1
  Versionstabelle:
 *** 40.0~a2+20150527004004-1 0
        501 http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental/iceweasel-aurora amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     38.0.1-5 0
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages