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Title: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: dairfaron on 2019/11/04, 12:30:11
Hi guys!


I am new to this forum and to siduction as well. I want to breathe some new life into my old ThinkPad X61T with this distro, but can't decide which desktop environment I want. Any suggestions? Is there a DE that is especially stable?


I'm not an experienced Linux user, but I am a fast learner ;)
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: towo on 2019/11/04, 12:34:00
xfce4, because it's the only DE which has a very slow developement.
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: dairfaron on 2019/11/04, 12:44:41
Aber xfce ist nicht out-of-date oder? Und auch nicht in absehbarer Zeit tot?
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: towo on 2019/11/04, 12:54:46
English? Deutsch?
Naja, nein xfce ist nicht out of date, ist sogar die aktuellest, gerade erst releaste Version.
Und das Developementg ist zwar langsam, aber stetig.
An xfce gibts auch nicht viel zu ändern, das ist halt etwas bieder, aber rock stable.
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: der_bud on 2019/11/04, 13:48:17
Noch 'n Tipp am Rande @dairfaron, aktuelle Live-/Installationsmedium am Besten via  https://isobuilds.siduction.org/
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: dairfaron on 2019/11/04, 14:16:54
Nativ Deutsch, aber ich dachte ich schreib mal auf Englisch um ggf. mehr Leute zu erreichen  :)


Danke @der_bud für den Hinweis!


Ich glaube ich werde dann mal xfce probieren.
Die "xperimental"- ISOs benutzen dann den experimental repo, oder wie darf ich mir das vorstellen? Wahrscheinlich sind die dann für nen stabilen Install weniger geeignet, richtig?
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: melmarker on 2019/11/04, 21:38:07
ansonsten LXDE oder LXQt - und die finger von xperimental lassen - alles was potentiell "interessanter" als default is, verbietet sich als Anfänger - ausser natürlich, man will die Sachen nicht auf die harte Tour, sondern auf die ganz harte Tour lernen.
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: Lanzi on 2019/11/05, 18:39:56
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...ausser natürlich, man will die Sachen nicht auf die harte Tour, sondern auf die ganz harte Tour lernen.
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: sunrat on 2019/11/05, 22:00:11
ausser natürlich, man will die Sachen nicht auf die harte Tour, sondern auf die ganz harte Tour lernen.
Google Translate - [ unless of course, you do not want to learn the stuff the hard way, but the hard way.]
Reminds me of an old quote attributed to Aristotle - "The things we have to learn before doing them, we learn by doing them". ;)

"Stable" can mean two slightly different things. In the Debian sense it means unchanging, Debian Stable will not update packages apart from security or rarely bugfix reasons.
The other meaning in software is basically "not crashing or buggy". For me as a longtime KDE user, the current Plasma 5 is stable in the sense I haven't had a crash or serious bug for a very long time, but not stable in the sense that packages get upgraded quite often.
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: Lanzi on 2019/11/06, 13:04:43
in ENglish it would be:
unless of course, you do not want to learn the stuff the hard way, but the really hard way
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: sunrat on 2019/11/06, 14:22:56
in ENglish it would be:
unless of course, you do not want to learn the stuff the hard way, but the really hard way
I knew the Google translation was incomplete, totally lost the real meaning. DeepL was the same.
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: horo on 2019/11/07, 12:16:44
"ausser natürlich, man will die Sachen nicht auf die harte Tour, sondern auf die ganz harte Tour lernen."
DeepL sagt dazu:
"unless, of course, you don't want to learn things the hard way, but the very hard way."
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: sunrat on 2019/11/07, 13:04:12
DeepL must give a different translation if you are in an English speaking country from a German speaking one. Here (Australia) I get :
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except of course, you don't want to learn things the hard way, you want to learn them the hard way
which is slightly different from Google but still misses the exact meaning.  It doesn't even make sense, rather contradicts itself.
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: samoht on 2019/11/07, 17:16:05
@sunrat

mysterious!  :o

Here is no difference between German and English variant of

https://www.deepl.com/translator (https://www.deepl.com/translator)
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: sunrat on 2019/11/07, 23:18:46
@samoht
Indeed mysterious! I tried it 3 times to make sure but got the same result each time.
Title: Re: Most stable DE for siduction
Post by: paxmark2 on 2019/11/09, 01:38:29
Although I am not in siduction (32 bit) Sway in sid is very quiet for weeks and weeks.  It is not a DE but a WM and it is in experimental. It is a tiling WM with all the faults and positives of a tiling WM.  It is an attempt to have a near perfect correlation in Wayland of I3 in xorg.