[SOLVED] Upgrading Problem - Confused on how to resolve

[onepiece]

Hello Folks,

About two weeks ago, I am getting a strange result when I complete the sudo apt full-upgrade command.  Response says it will NOT upgrade ~205 packages (see text).

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205 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
d@SHINE-VB:~$ sudo apt full-upgrade
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libwoff1
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove it.

Upgrading:
  brave-browser  libktorrent-l10n

Not upgrading:
  dolphin                           libqt6qmlworkerscript6
  gstreamer1.0-qt6                  libqt6quick3d6
  gwenview                          libqt6quick3druntimerender6
  kate                              libqt6quick3dutils6
  kde-cli-tools                     libqt6quick6
  kde-inotify-survey                libqt6quickcontrols2-6
  kde-spectacle                     libqt6quickshapes6
  kdeconnect                        libqt6quicktemplates2-6
  kdeconnect-libs                   libqt6quicktest6
  kglobalacceld                     libqt6quickwidgets6
  kinfocenter                       libqt6sensors6
  kio6                              libqt6serialport6
  konqueror                         libqt6shadertools6
  krfb                              libqt6sql6
  kruler                            libqt6sql6-sqlite
  kwin-addons                       libqt6svg6
  kwin-common                       libqt6svgwidgets6
  kwin-data                         libqt6test6
  kwin-wayland                      libqt6texttospeech6
  kwin-x11                          libqt6uitools6
  kwin-x11-data                     libqt6virtualkeyboard6
  kwrite                            libqt6waylandclient6
  layer-shell-qt                    libqt6waylandcompositor6
  libbatterycontrol6                libqt6webchannel6
  libdolphinvcs6                    libqt6webchannelquick6
  libkf6colorscheme6                libqt6webengine6-data
  libkf6configwidgets6              libqt6webenginecore6
  libkf6dbusaddons-bin              libqt6webenginecore6-bin
  libkf6dbusaddons6                 libqt6webenginequick6
  libkf6globalaccel6                libqt6webenginewidgets6
  libkf6guiaddons-bin               libqt6websockets6
  libkf6guiaddons6                  libqt6webview6
  libkf6iconthemes-bin              libqt6widgets6
  libkf6iconthemes6                 libqt6wlshellintegration6
  libkf6iconwidgets6                libqt6xml6
  libkf6jobwidgets6                 libtaskmanager6
  libkf6kiocore6                    libweather-ion7
  libkf6kiofilewidgets6             okular
  libkf6kiogui6                     plasma-dataengines-addons
  libkf6kiowidgets6                 plasma-desktop
  libkf6konq7                       plasma-integration
  libkf6konqsettings7               plasma-runners-addons
  libkf6screen8                     plasma-wallpapers-addons
  libkf6screendpms8                 plasma-widgets-addons
  libkf6windowsystem6               plasma-workspace
  libkf6xmlgui6                     powerdevil
  libkfontinst6                     python3-pyqt6
  libkfontinstui6                   qdbus-qt6
  libkglobalacceld0                 qml6-module-org-kde-desktop
  libkglobalaccelmodel6             qml6-module-org-kde-guiaddons
  libkirigami6                      qml6-module-org-kde-iconthemes
  libkirigamiaddonsstatefulapp6     qml6-module-org-kde-kdeconnect
  libkirigamiapp6                   qml6-module-org-kde-kirigami
  libkirigamidelegates6             qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-components
  libkirigamidialogs6               qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-datetime
  libkirigamilayouts6               qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-delegates
  libkirigamilayoutsprivate6        qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-formcard
  libkirigamiplatform6              qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-labs-components
  libkirigamipolyfill6              qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-settings
  libkirigamiprimitives6            qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-statefulapp
  libkirigamiprivate6               qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-tableview
  libkirigamitemplates6             qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-treeview
  libklipper6                       qml6-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem
  libklookandfeel6                  qml6-module-org-kde-plasma-plasma5support
  libkmpris6                        qml6-module-qt-labs-animation
  libkscreen-bin                    qml6-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel
  libktorrent6-6                    qml6-module-qt-labs-platform
  libkwaylandclient6                qml6-module-qt-labs-qmlmodels
  libkwin-x11-6                     qml6-module-qt5compat-graphicaleffects
  libkwin6                          qml6-module-qtcore
  libkworkspace6-6                  qml6-module-qtlocation
  liblayershellqtinterface6         qml6-module-qtmultimedia
  libnotificationmanager1           qml6-module-qtpositioning
  libokular6core4                   qml6-module-qtqml
  libplasma-geolocation-interface6  qml6-module-qtqml-models
  libplasma5support6                qml6-module-qtqml-workerscript
  libplasmaweatherdata6             qml6-module-qtquick
  libplasmaweatherion6              qml6-module-qtquick-controls
  libpowerdevilcore2                qml6-module-qtquick-dialogs
  libqcoro6core0t64                 qml6-module-qtquick-effects
  libqcoro6dbus0t64                 qml6-module-qtquick-layouts
  libqt6bluetooth6                  qml6-module-qtquick-particles
  libqt6bluetooth6-bin              qml6-module-qtquick-shapes
  libqt6concurrent6                 qml6-module-qtquick-templates
  libqt6core5compat6                qml6-module-qtquick-tooling
  libqt6core6t64                    qml6-module-qtquick-virtualkeyboard
  libqt6dbus6                       qml6-module-qtquick-window
  libqt6gui6                        qml6-module-qtquick3d
  libqt6labsplatform6               qml6-module-qttest
  libqt6location6                   qml6-module-qtwebchannel
  libqt6multimedia6                 qml6-module-qtwebengine
  libqt6multimediawidgets6          qml6-module-qtwebview
  libqt6network6                    qt6-gtk-platformtheme
  libqt6opengl6                     qt6-image-formats-plugins
  libqt6openglwidgets6              qt6-location-plugins
  libqt6positioning6                qt6-qpa-plugins
  libqt6positioning6-plugins        qt6-svg-plugins
  libqt6positioningquick6           qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin
  libqt6printsupport6               qt6-wayland
  libqt6qml6                        xdg-desktop-portal-kde
  libqt6qmlmeta6                    yakuake
  libqt6qmlmodels6

Summary:
  Upgrading: 2, Installing: 0, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 203
  Download size: 136 MB
  Space needed: 742 kB / 16.1 GB available

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GENERALLY, if I wait a week or so, the Siduction managers make changes and I update without issue.  THIS TIME its been 2 weeks and the failure to update continues.  How do I get my system to properly upgrade?

For experimentation, I used the command:  sudo aptitude full-upgrade and the response was a number of dependencies would need to be changed (see text).

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d@SHINE-VB:~$ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  qml6-module-qtwebengine-controlsdelegates{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libwoff1{u}
The following packages will be upgraded:
  dolphin gstreamer1.0-qt6 gwenview kate kde-cli-tools kde-inotify-survey kde-spectacle kdeconnect
  kdeconnect-libs kglobalacceld kinfocenter kio6 konqueror krfb kruler kwin-addons kwin-common kwin-data
  kwin-wayland kwin-x11 kwin-x11-data kwrite layer-shell-qt libbatterycontrol6 libdolphinvcs6
  libkf6colorscheme6 libkf6configwidgets6 libkf6dbusaddons-bin libkf6dbusaddons6 libkf6globalaccel6
  libkf6guiaddons-bin libkf6guiaddons6 libkf6iconthemes-bin libkf6iconthemes6 libkf6iconwidgets6
  libkf6jobwidgets6 libkf6kiocore6 libkf6kiofilewidgets6 libkf6kiogui6 libkf6kiowidgets6 libkf6konq7
  libkf6konqsettings7 libkf6screen8 libkf6screendpms8 libkf6windowsystem6 libkf6xmlgui6 libkfontinst6
  libkfontinstui6 libkglobalacceld0 libkglobalaccelmodel6 libkirigami6 libkirigamiaddonsstatefulapp6
  libkirigamiapp6 libkirigamidelegates6 libkirigamidialogs6 libkirigamilayouts6
  libkirigamilayoutsprivate6 libkirigamiplatform6 libkirigamipolyfill6 libkirigamiprimitives6
  libkirigamiprivate6 libkirigamitemplates6 libklipper6 libklookandfeel6 libkmpris6 libkscreen-bin
  libktorrent6-6 libkwaylandclient6 libkwin-x11-6 libkwin6 libkworkspace6-6 liblayershellqtinterface6
  libnotificationmanager1 libokular6core4 libplasma-geolocation-interface6 libplasma5support6
  libplasmaweatherdata6 libplasmaweatherion6 libpowerdevilcore2 libqcoro6core0t64 libqcoro6dbus0t64
  libqt6bluetooth6 libqt6bluetooth6-bin libqt6concurrent6 libqt6core5compat6 libqt6core6t64 libqt6dbus6
  libqt6gui6 libqt6labsplatform6 libqt6location6 libqt6multimedia6 libqt6multimediawidgets6
  libqt6network6 libqt6opengl6 libqt6openglwidgets6 libqt6positioning6 libqt6positioning6-plugins
  libqt6positioningquick6 libqt6printsupport6 libqt6qml6 libqt6qmlmeta6 libqt6qmlmodels6
  libqt6qmlworkerscript6 libqt6quick3d6 libqt6quick3druntimerender6 libqt6quick3dutils6 libqt6quick6
  libqt6quickcontrols2-6 libqt6quickshapes6 libqt6quicktemplates2-6 libqt6quicktest6 libqt6quickwidgets6
  libqt6sensors6 libqt6serialport6 libqt6shadertools6 libqt6sql6 libqt6sql6-sqlite libqt6svg6
  libqt6svgwidgets6 libqt6test6 libqt6texttospeech6 libqt6uitools6 libqt6virtualkeyboard6
  libqt6waylandclient6 libqt6waylandcompositor6 libqt6webchannel6 libqt6webchannelquick6
  libqt6webengine6-data libqt6webenginecore6 libqt6webenginecore6-bin libqt6webenginequick6
  libqt6webenginewidgets6 libqt6websockets6 libqt6webview6 libqt6widgets6 libqt6wlshellintegration6
  libqt6xml6 libtaskmanager6 libweather-ion7 okular plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-desktop
  plasma-integration plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widgets-addons
  plasma-workspace powerdevil python3-pyqt6 qdbus-qt6 qml6-module-org-kde-desktop
  qml6-module-org-kde-guiaddons qml6-module-org-kde-iconthemes qml6-module-org-kde-kdeconnect
  qml6-module-org-kde-kirigami qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-components
  qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-datetime qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-delegates
  qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-formcard qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-labs-components
  qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-settings qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-statefulapp
  qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-tableview qml6-module-org-kde-kirigamiaddons-treeview
  qml6-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem qml6-module-org-kde-plasma-plasma5support
  qml6-module-qt-labs-animation qml6-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel qml6-module-qt-labs-platform
  qml6-module-qt-labs-qmlmodels qml6-module-qt5compat-graphicaleffects qml6-module-qtcore
  qml6-module-qtlocation qml6-module-qtmultimedia qml6-module-qtpositioning qml6-module-qtqml
  qml6-module-qtqml-models qml6-module-qtqml-workerscript qml6-module-qtquick
  qml6-module-qtquick-controls qml6-module-qtquick-dialogs qml6-module-qtquick-effects
  qml6-module-qtquick-layouts qml6-module-qtquick-particles qml6-module-qtquick-shapes
  qml6-module-qtquick-templates qml6-module-qtquick-tooling qml6-module-qtquick-virtualkeyboard
  qml6-module-qtquick-window qml6-module-qtquick3d qml6-module-qttest qml6-module-qtwebchannel
  qml6-module-qtwebengine qml6-module-qtwebview qt6-gtk-platformtheme qt6-image-formats-plugins
  qt6-location-plugins qt6-qpa-plugins qt6-svg-plugins qt6-virtualkeyboard-plugin qt6-wayland
  xdg-desktop-portal-kde yakuake
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  plasma-welcome
203 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 177 MB of archives. After unpacking 21.4 MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
copyq : Depends: qt6-base-private-abi (= 6.9.2) which is a virtual package, provided by:
                  - libqt6core6t64 (6.9.2+dfsg-4+b1) provides qt6-base-private-abi=6.9.2, but 6.10.2+dfsg-6 is to be installed
                  - libqt6core6t64 (6.10.2+dfsg-6) provides qt6-base-private-abi=6.10.2, but 6.10.2+dfsg-6 is to be installed

xwaylandvideobridge : Depends: qt6-base-private-abi (= 6.9.2) which is a virtual package, provided by:
                                - libqt6core6t64 (6.9.2+dfsg-4+b1) provides qt6-base-private-abi=6.9.2, but 6.10.2+dfsg-6 is to be installed
                                - libqt6core6t64 (6.10.2+dfsg-6) provides qt6-base-private-abi=6.10.2, but 6.10.2+dfsg-6 is to be installed

                       Depends: qt6-declarative-private-abi (= 6.9.2) which is a virtual package, provided by:
                                - libqt6qml6 (6.9.2+dfsg-6) provides qt6-declarative-private-abi=6.9.2, but 6.10.2+dfsg-4 is to be installed
                                - libqt6qml6 (6.10.2+dfsg-4) provides qt6-declarative-private-abi=6.10.2, but 6.10.2+dfsg-4 is to be installed

The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

     Remove the following packages:               
1)     copyq [13.0.0-1 (now, unstable)]           
2)     copyq-plugins [13.0.0-1 (now, unstable)]   
3)     xwaylandvideobridge [0.4.0-3 (now)]       

     Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
4)     kwin-wayland recommends xwaylandvideobridge



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] ^C
d@SHINE-VB:~$


I chickened out and did not execute.  How do I resolve this apparent upgrade failure?

Thank you in advance to all.

[Teriarch]

> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
> How do I resolve this apparent upgrade failure?

You accept the solution and read the topics related to it.

[Teriarch]

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[onepiece]

Thank you for your recommendation. It turned out successful.
That's said, I'm somewhat perplexed by the fact I've been using Siduction for about 2 or 3 years and don't think I've EVER needed to use "aptitude"  command for any upgrade in the past.

Regarding me needing "aptitude" for this recent upgrade ... Is that a situation peculiar to my system install or did ALL Siduction users need to use aptitude for this recent upgrade?
A situation like this is so infrequent I thought surely there would be some mention of this need / requirement in the forum. I saw none. Thoughts? Thanks to all.

[Pip]

Although it's not an exact match,

https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=9930.0

should show some of what you're after - lots of us have had issues with the upgrade in recent times, so you're not alone.

[onepiece]

Thanks for the tip!  You are RIGHT!  Not exact but a very close match.  I would have expected some curious minds to post about the recent need to upgrade using APTITUDE command just like the folks did for the thread you called my attention to.

Still wondering if the vast majority of Siduction users needed to use APTITUDE for the recent upgrade OR...if I needed to use it because of a peculiarity of my particular Siduction install.

Thanks to all.

[devil]

If you wanted to upgrade at this point in time, aptitude is a great help. This is nothing that only happens to you, we all have the same output. You could have also waited it out like I do. Today the output shows:

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Summary:
  Upgrading: 654, Installing: 17, Removing: 1, Not Upgrading: 9
  Download size: 1.785 MB
So things are smoothing out. If you visit https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/ and search for qt, you will find the reason for the holdup. There is an ongoing extensive transition to Qt 6.10, which needs to be completed before Plasma 6.6 can move into Sid (and siduction). Transitions of that size sometimes cause what you witnessed, so no need to worry. Just sit it out.

[alexsid]

It seems the issue has been resolved. Everything was updated, the system is up to date, nothing to update at all. No issues.

[dibl]

...
Still wondering if the vast majority of Siduction users needed to use APTITUDE for the recent upgrade OR...if I needed to use it because of a peculiarity of my particular Siduction install.
...

Using siduction and its predecessors for 15 or so years, I have not felt the need to resort to aptitude, although it is a perfectly good package management tool. What I have done when upgrading got scary is (a) simply wait a few days, and/or (b) use apt upgrade instead of full-upgrade. This is safe to do for a short while -- days or weeks, maybe. I have four systems, different hardware but all KDE desktops today, but I did have a LXQt laptop system until the hardware died. This recent round of qt6 and KDE/Plasma upgrades have been challenging at times, but all four systems are fully upgraded and working as expected today. I have a Windows 11 VM, using qemu and KVM to support my genealogy website development requirements, and I'm a LibreOffice user when I need those office packages. Browsers are SRWare Iron and Firefox. Main storage on my "productivity" system is a pair of WD30EZAX drives running a single BTRFS filesystem i.e. striped data and mirrored metadata. Here's the full description of that system:

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System:
  Kernel: 6.19.10-1-siduction-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
  Console: pty pts/3 Distro: siduction 2025.1.0 shine-on - kde - (202507091820)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: B860 Pro-A serial: <superuser required> Firmware: UEFI
    vendor: American Megatrends LLC. v: 1.17 date: 03/31/2025
CPU:
  Info: 20-core model: Intel Core Ultra 7 265KF bits: 64 type: MCP cache: L2: 36 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/5500:5400:4600:6500 cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800
    5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 9: 800 10: 800 11: 800 12: 800 13: 800 14: 800 15: 800 16: 800
    17: 800 18: 800 19: 800 20: 800
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP106 [GeForce GTX 1060 6GB] driver: nvidia v: 580.126.18
  Display: unspecified server: X.org v: 1.21.1.21 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.9 driver: X:
    loaded: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch tty: 173x48
    resolution: 1: 1920x1200 2: 1920x1080
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: nvidia,swrast platforms: gbm,wayland,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 26.0.3-1 note: console (EGL sourced)
    renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2, llvmpipe (LLVM 21.1.8 256 bits)
  API: Vulkan v: 1.4.341 drivers: nvidia,llvmpipe surfaces: N/A
  Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor
    gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi wl: wayland-info x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP106 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-2: Intel 800 Series ACE driver: snd_hda_intel
  API: ALSA v: k6.19.10-1-siduction-amd64 status: kernel-api
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.6.2 status: active
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE driver: r8169
  IF: enp129s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: br0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: unknown mac: <filter>
RAID:
  Hardware-1: Intel Volume Management Device NVMe RAID Controller Intel driver: N/A
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 6.37 TiB used: 670.91 GiB (10.3%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 990 EVO Plus 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
  ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD30EZAX-00C8UB0 size: 2.73 TiB
  ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD30EZAX-00C8UB0 size: 2.73 TiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 58.76 GiB used: 15.77 GiB (26.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5
  ID-2: /boot size: 1007.9 MiB used: 148.5 MiB (14.7%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
  ID-3: /boot/efi size: 126 MiB used: 142 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
  ID-4: /home size: 847.77 GiB used: 62.18 GiB (7.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 557 MiB (6.8%) dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 32 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
  Memory: total: 48 GiB note: est. available: 46.76 GiB used: 2.71 GiB (5.8%)
  Processes: 448 Uptime: 5h 33m Init: systemd Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.40

I hope that's informative for at least one of my fellow siduction users. 

[onepiece]

Thank you to all respondents.

Now I know that more than a few users like me suffered delayed upgrades using the "usual"  sudo apt update and sudo apt full-upgrade commands.  Like you suggested, the course of action I normally take is to WAIT and let the code writers sort out the upgrade glitches.  When this situation went on for over two weeks and virtually NO discussion in the forum my early conclusion is that something about the whole upgrade fell off track.   Good to know that behind the scenes many people were making solutions...its just there was NO news updates known to me on the behind the scenes efforts.

[dibl]

... this situation went on for over two weeks and virtually NO discussion in the forum ...

If you look at the top "Upgrade Warnings" sub-forum, and count the first 10 posts, you will see that 7 out of 10 were on the DE (German Language) side.  This is normal -- the dev team is most or all native German speakers.

Please don't let that fact be any kind of discouragement -- most of the devs speak excellent English, and a few of us Western Hemisphere types are able to help, at times. Also, a browser with built-in translation makes it easy to see what the DE posts are reporting.

[DeepDayze]

Removing xwaylandvideobridge allowed the d-u to proceed with no removals for me.

[cbob]

FYI: Here(tm) is my problem: Blender has to be removed due to issues with libopenexr-3-4-33 (corrupted: libopenexr-3-1-30). I don't need Blender (I just use it for fun, without knowing much about it ). Therefore, I decided to uninstall Blender. And so far, I haven't had any problems with f-u

[edlin]

Aus dem gleichen Grunde habe ich schon vor über einer Woche Blender deinstalliert.

Wer Blender nutzen will oder muss, kann entweder ein All-Inclusive-Paket von blender.org herunterladen oder sich die Version aus Debian/experimental installieren.

edlin
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For the same reason, I uninstalled Blender over a week ago.

Anyone who wants to or needs to use Blender can either download an all-in-one package from blender.org or install the version from the Debian/experimental branch.

edlin