I broke xfce with 4.10

[Super-Nathan]

I have been using Siduction for about 4 days. While I am familiar with Debian-based distros, I am a greenhorn here.

I added the repo from the blog with

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echo deb http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext unstable main > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xfcenext.list

and then I ran my upgrade script  which i save at /usr/bin/upgrade

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#!/bin/bash
sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade

it told me it had to delete xfce4-utils ( I think that was it) and all of the siduction art (don't know why) So I did the foolhardy thing and hit "y"

it did it's magic, I reboot for good measure and when i try to log in from lightdm to xfce i get my wallpaper (which is the same as lightdm, so i don't know who is drawing it) and an empty top panel. Nothing is intractable or clickable. it is a dead fish. I must switch to a console, restart lightdm, and login with i3 to do anything.

I then did a:

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aptitude remove --purge xfce4 xfce4-session  and tried to reinstall, no joy. same things happens.

Seeing as i3 (with xfce helpers like volumd and thunar) is my prefered window manager this isnt a major killer. But I would like to fix it.[/code]

[Geier0815]

Have a look at this thread Maybe you have the same problem? If not please post what "apt-cache policy xfce4" gives you out. If xfce4 4.10 is installed, create a new user on your computer and log in with it to xfce. Now everything as expected?

By the way: Why using sudo and aptitude?

[agaida]

http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.10/roadmap/xfce-utils

We want to get rid of this package. ... ff

EDIT: siduction-art-packages was the former siduction-art-metapackages. So the removal should not do any harm.

[Super-Nathan]

I have always heard that aptitude was better. Every forum post i read says to use it so I do. I think it was always stuff about dependancies.  


As for sudo. I prefer to do most of my maintenance as a regular user with sudo powers (no password).It's kinda lax on security, but in my situation that is fine.

apt-cache policy xfce4 gives me

xfce4:
 Installed: 4.10.0
 Candidate: 4.10.0
 Version table:
*** 4.10.0 0
       500 http://ftp.spline.de/pub/siduction/xfcenext/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
       100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
    4.8.0.3 0
       500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages

[Super-Nathan]

Have a look at this thread Maybe you have the same problem? If not please post what "apt-cache policy xfce4" gives you out. If xfce4 4.10 is installed, create a new user on your computer and log in with it to xfce. Now everything as expected?

By the way: Why using sudo and aptitude?

I created a new user, and loged in with success. Therefor i copied the xfce4 config file from new user to my user and gave him ownership of the file. I am now able to log into xfce4!  It is super sluggish to load. but it works. (edit: it did work, for one login, after enabling compositing it broke again)

[agaida]

aptitude is often not a good idea with sid. But if you know, what you do, use it. We recommend apt-get because its dumb enough for a fast moving target like sid. aptitude try to be clever in situations where no cleverness is needed :twisted:

[Super-Nathan]

So here is where I am, It only fixed it for a short second. It is now broke again.

I then went to init 3 and did

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apt-get auroremove --purge xfce4 xfce4-panel xfce4-session

after that I did a dist-upgrade (like a good kid, in itit 3) then i installed xfce4 again. Trying to log in I get the same results:

For me I get a super super slow login to a blank unusable panel and a desktop. from which the only recovery is a lightdm restart

for my new user I get a fast and typical login.

I tried copying all login files making sure to change permission from new user to my user. only change is there are now 2 blank unusable panels. Again, from which the only recovery is a lightdm restart

I did some thinking and some poking around. I found the siduction files in /usr/share and copied all the configs from siduction-settings-xfce to my .config folder. assigned it permission and tried to login. now I get siduction splash and eveything goes fast till it says performing autostart, and xfce crashes and sends me back to lightdm.

I then removed the new apt source, removed and purged xfce and my config files and then reinstalled 4.8. SAme thing is still happening although with a correction. if you wait long enough it will eventual get you a super slow desktop. upgraded to 4.10 again, same deal. my new user has no problems, my user is fucked. I don't understand

[Zeitgeist]

I think you are better off if you just delete all Xfce-related config files in your home and log in especially after the upgrade from 4.8 to 4.10.

Yes you will loose all your settings but i think that something is really borked in your configuration.

[Super-Nathan]

I think you are better off if you just delete all Xfce-related config files in your home and log in especially after the upgrade from 4.8 to 4.10.

Yes you will loose all your settings but i think that something is really borked in your configuration.

I would say that you nailed it with that advice. Make sure that xfce cache is also cleared, that is where most people have problems I think.