perl 5.18.x upgrade

[ralul]

@michaa7, dont' you see my solved?
http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?msg=31996#31996

Indeed my purging of "lsof" is a perl issue.
I did put this xorg - libaudit1 issue here in this thread, because I know that nobody of you uses aptitude and is blind regarding dependencies

[michaa7]

@michaa7, dont' you see my solved?
http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?msg=31996#31996

o yeah, it's there somewhere ...

Indeed my purging of "lsof" is a perl issue.
I did put this xorg - libaudit1 issue here in this thread, because I know that nobody of you uses aptitude and is blind regarding dependencies

In which case it was wrong to state:

"At this moment for me the issue is not perl but libaudit1"

because it was misleading, specially for all of us apt-blinded users.

Now with the complete info your statement makes sense.

But still, it seems limited to 64 bit.

[belze]

now i get this:

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The following NEW packages will be installed:
 libboost-date-time1.54.0 libboost-filesystem1.54.0 libboost-serialization1.54.0 libboost-system1.54.0
[b]The following packages have been kept back:
 xserver-xorg-core[/b]
The following packages will be upgraded:
 apt apt-utils desktop-file-utils encfs fonts-liberation fonts-opensymbol gir1.2-gtk-3.0 imagemagick imagemagick-common iso-codes libapt-inst1.5 libapt-pkg4.12
 libgail-3-0 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin libgtk-3-common libieee1284-3 libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libmagickcore5 libmagickwand5 libmpg123-0:i386
 liborcus-0.6-0 libperl5.18 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-dev libqt4-dev-bin libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-opengl-dev
 libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtdbus4 libqtgui4
 libraptor2-0 libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress
 libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-kde libreoffice-l10n-it libreoffice-math libreoffice-ogltrans libreoffice-pdfimport libreoffice-report-builder-bin
 libreoffice-style-oxygen libreoffice-writer libsdl-image1.2 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-common libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-common perl perl-base
 perl-modules python3-uno qdbus qt4-linguist-tools qt4-qmake qt4-qtconfig qtcore4-l10n rpcbind uno-libs3 ure
80 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/144 MB of archives.
After this operation, 1296 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Should I install libaudit1 (losing systemd) or it is better to wait a little more? Any suggestion?

[piper]

I am not using systemd at the moment, but a du right this minute gives me

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Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

[dibl]

I use systemd.  On this 64-bit system, which was upgraded early this morning (US Eastern), I now see this:

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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
 libboost-date-time1.53.0
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.
Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 libboost-date-time1.54.0
The following packages have been kept back:
 xserver-xorg-core
The following packages will be upgraded:
 fonts-opensymbol imagemagick imagemagick-common iso-codes libmagickcore5 libmagickwand5 libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
 libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math
 libreoffice-report-builder libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-style-oxygen libreoffice-writer libsdl-image1.2
 python3-uno uno-libs3 ure
25 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 91.1 MB of archives.
After this operation, 397 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

[ralul]

Should I install libaudit1 (losing systemd) or it is better to wait a little more? Any suggestion?

Systemd-204 from experimental was rebuild to use libaudit1 also !

[belze]

Should I install libaudit1 (losing systemd) or it is better to wait a little more? Any suggestion?

Systemd-204 from experimental was rebuild to use libaudit1 also !

on my system i get

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LANG=C sudo apt-get -t experimental install libaudit1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
 libaudit-common libpam-systemd systemd xserver-common xserver-xorg-core
Suggested packages:
 xfonts-scalable
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 libaudit0 xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
 xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
 xserver-xorg-video-qxl xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 libaudit-common libaudit1
The following packages will be upgraded:
 libpam-systemd systemd xserver-common xserver-xorg-core
4 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 18 to remove and 181 not upgraded.
Need to get 4061 kB of archives.
After this operation, 7346 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

so i'll have systemd and libaudit1 but not xorg... i'll wait

[seasons]

True but don't forget that some people might not have all those ancillary perl packages installed.

That was michaa7's point...The perl transition is currently at 85%, so it's probably solved for most people, but we shouldn't declare that it's solved for everyone. http://release.debian.org/transitions/html/perl5.18.html

[vayu]

Perl Transition is at 68%
http://release.debian.org/transitions/

greetz
devil

Clear enough for my system to be 100% back and using libperl5.18.  I DU'd today, then installed the 100 or so packages that the early stages of the perl transition had removed.

[vayu]

Boost and python are big ones also. Apache can be tricky (just had one not long ago, but that affects servers more than desktops).
The page https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam/Transitions deals with how to organize a transition if you are a dev, http://release.debian.org/transitions/ shows planned and ongoing transitions.

greetz
devil

Thanks for this.  I'm in such awe. I write small simple programs and it's so hard for me to accomplish that.  When I wake up from taking it for granted, I find having a team of thousands of people getting together to create and maintain a huge, complex and dynamic system and integrate it with 10s of thousands of packages for a gift to the world boggles my mind and warms my heart.