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Offline GoinEasy9

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Thunderbird or Icedove
« on: 2012/01/10, 07:05:26 »
I was using Thunderbird in Fedora.  I see that IceDove is one version behind (8.0) the current version of Thunderbird (9.0), and, to tell you the truth, I'd really rather use Thunderbird.

Are there any pros and/or cons to using Thunderbird over IceDove in Debian?  I'd really like to hear some opinions.

Thanks in Advance
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Offline michaa7

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Thunderbird or Icedove
« Reply #1 on: 2012/01/10, 11:00:13 »
there simply is no thunderbird in debian
Ok, you can't code, but you still might be able to write a bug report for Debian's sake

Offline devil

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Thunderbird or Icedove
« Reply #2 on: 2012/01/10, 11:12:24 »
that does not mean, it cannot be used though.
i myself stick to the debian versions of iceweasel and icedove (but from the mozilla.debian repository)

greetz
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Offline se7en

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RE: Thunderbird or Icedove
« Reply #3 on: 2012/01/10, 11:27:43 »
I did change to thunderbird for a while because icedove was stuck on 3.something.
BUT I changed back to icedove 8.* a couple of weeks ago because I had trouble with the calendar and clippings plugin in thunderbird 9.*.

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RE: Thunderbird or Icedove
« Reply #4 on: 2012/01/10, 13:01:59 »
@GoinEasy9: You can use any stage of thunderbird instead of icedove. I dont see any cons, if you know what you do. The mozilla.debian repository is in a good shape too, but i do prefer thunderbird.
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hinto

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RE: Thunderbird or Icedove
« Reply #5 on: 2012/01/10, 15:16:57 »
you can also sym-link the settings and flow seamlessly between the two.

Offline GoinEasy9

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RE: Thunderbird or Icedove
« Reply #6 on: 2012/01/11, 04:12:48 »
Thanks for all the reply's.  I'll probably try installing Thunderbird on my testing laptop into /opt.  Test it for a while, and, if I don't run into problems, put it into my main install.  Seems like there are update issues whether one uses Thunderbird (no repo) or IceDove (versions usually behind).
Mozilla.debian is telling me to pull IceDove from experimental.  Version is still 8.02 there ... sigh.  Is there a separate mozilla.debian repo that I'm not finding?
I'll let you know how I make out after testing.
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Offline piper

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RE: Thunderbird or Icedove
« Reply #7 on: 2012/01/11, 12:50:25 »
I use both firefox and thunderbird nightly, this will work with any version though, you can put them in /home or /opt, I personally use /opt.

I build without iceweasel, or, if I build with it I purge it.

Pretty easy to setup, just change your username ;)

as root for firefox
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chown -R root:piper /opt/firefox

chmod 750 /opt/firefox

usermod -a -G users piper

ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox

touch /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktops

nano /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Mozilla Firefox
Comment=Browse the World Wide Web
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Exec=/usr/bin/firefox %U
Icon=/opt/firefox/icons/mozicon128.png
StartupNotify=true
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;

firefox fix for x-www-browser
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update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-www-browser x-www-browser /opt/firefox 90
update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /opt/firefox


as root for thunderbird
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chown piper -R /opt/thunderbird

chown -R root:piper /opt/thunderbird

chmod 750 /opt/thunderbird

ln -s /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird /usr/bin/thunderbird

touch /usr/share/applications/thunderbird.desktops

nano /usr/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop


[Desktop Entry]
Name=Thunderbird Mail
GenericName=Mail Client
Comment=Manage your email and contacts
Exec=/usr/bin/thunderbird %u
Icon=/opt/thunderbird/chrome/icons/default/default48.png
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Application;Network;Email;
StartupNotify=true
MimeType=text/calendar;text/x-vcard;text/directory;application/mbox;message/rfc822;x-scheme-handler/mailto;


Both should now show under kmenu > internet

I use daisy instead :)
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Offline GoinEasy9

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RE: Thunderbird or Icedove
« Reply #8 on: 2012/01/12, 05:08:56 »
Wow piper, great stuff, I will try it your way.  That looks excellent, Thanks.  Won't get to test till the weekend though.  I'll post how I make out.
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