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Offline ayla

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[EN] [workaround found for]missing suxterm
« on: 2014/02/08, 11:35:32 »
Hi,

I've installed the 13.2.1 KDE AMD64 Iso right now.

I'm missing the suxterm command. Apt-file search suxterm delivers nothing, apt-cache policy sux says: there is no installation candidate.

Can I get suxterm back somehow?

Of course, if not, there is allways the workaround with "xhost +" and "su -".

greets
ayla
« Last Edit: 2014/02/08, 20:00:55 by ayla »

Offline devil

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Re: missing suxterm
« Reply #1 on: 2014/02/08, 11:49:18 »
As suxterm was part of sux, that is gone for good. I installed on a new notebook yesterday and miss it already :(


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Offline ayla

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Re: missing suxterm
« Reply #2 on: 2014/02/08, 12:01:41 »
I suspected something like that... :(

Thanks for clarifying.

So to thoose who like working as root with graphical tools:

Give as user:
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xhost +
su -
After root-stuff is finished:
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xhost - greets
ayla

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Re: missing suxterm
« Reply #3 on: 2014/02/08, 13:40:49 »
On a KDE desktop, you can simply begin typing "kdesu konsole" and it will start the launcher.
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Re: missing suxterm
« Reply #4 on: 2014/02/08, 14:07:46 »
Another available way is gksu

Under xfce gksu xfce4-terminal  or gksu xterm work really well too.

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Re: missing suxterm
« Reply #5 on: 2014/02/08, 14:45:12 »
On a KDE desktop, you can simply begin typing "kdesu konsole" and it will start the launcher.

Think it's time for me to get used to kdesu, works well...

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Re: missing suxterm
« Reply #6 on: 2014/02/08, 16:05:05 »
Another more or less odd workaround I found in some magazin would be to use

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ssh -X root@localhost
They gave the advice to make a sux-alias from that. Otherwise, alias sux='/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu' should work as well.
« Last Edit: 2014/02/08, 16:15:10 by der_bud »
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Re: missing suxterm
« Reply #7 on: 2014/02/08, 19:58:59 »
Otherwise, alias sux='/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu' should work as well.

Thanks, this is as close on gone suxterm as could be.
My .bashrc now holds a line:

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alias sux='/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu konsole'

short, familiar call, works well does not work :( , have to dig in deeper...

What is working is:

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alias sux='/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu xterm'
Not my preferred terminal, but it does the job for now.

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« Last Edit: 2014/02/08, 21:24:32 by ayla »

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Re: [workaround found for]missing suxterm
« Reply #8 on: 2014/02/09, 02:35:11 »
maybe this is a better way to emulate sux, but i'm nor sure. In any case this one is platform agnostic

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alias sux='su -p -l -c x-terminal-emulator'


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Re: [workaround found for]missing suxterm
« Reply #9 on: 2014/02/09, 10:27:37 »
yep, this works with the bash insteed of xterm, thanks.

But, one must not give the -p option, because:

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Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-cal" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.

If the line looks like this ev'rything is fine:
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alias sux='su -l -c x-terminal-emulator'
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Re: [workaround found for]missing suxterm
« Reply #10 on: 2014/02/09, 14:22:29 »
Thanks ayla - that one does not preserve the environment, which is maybe better, i'm not sure about the consequences.  I should read again about this.
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Re: [workaround found for]missing suxterm
« Reply #11 on: 2014/02/24, 05:32:48 »
This info should go into the manual, which still instructs users to use sux.
« Last Edit: 2014/02/24, 06:35:02 by jjjrrr3 »

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Re: [workaround found for]missing suxterm
« Reply #12 on: 2014/02/24, 09:24:16 »
An other solution is to add the xhost command to the ".bashrc" like this:

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## xhost for root ##
xhost + "local:root@localhost"
xhost -

or enable it system wide, and i do not know if this is a security hole,
you can edit "/etc/X11/xsession.d/35x11-common_xhost-local" like this:

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# This file is sourced by Xsession(5), not executed.

# If xhost (from x11-xserver-utils) is installed, use it to give access
# to the X server to any process from the same user on the local host.
# Unlike other uses of xhost, this is safe since the kernel can check
# the actual owner of the calling process.

if type xhost >/dev/null 2>&1; then
  xhost +si:localuser:$(id -un) || :
fi

if type xhost >/dev/null 2>&1; then
  xhost +si:localuser:root || :
fi

Then you are able to run, after doing a "su", a graphical program like an editor or a filemanager and so on.

But be aware of the security of your system!

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Re: [workaround found for]missing suxterm
« Reply #13 on: 2014/02/24, 11:42:12 »
As a kde user if I want to work as root in a graphical mode I use the 'run' command and enter dolphin (it'll remember it for future use). From the drop down menu select SU mode or the option to change user and login as root. From this 'rooted' file manager I can do most of the simple tasks that require root access eg. load a config file into kate for editing.