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[solved] Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« on: 2014/04/26, 22:33:27 »
Hello gnome users,

A lot of packages found their way to unstable and even more are in incoming and will hit us in a few minutes.
On my recent dist-upgrade i got an empty desktop with a lonely mousecursor.

So beware!  Don't dist-upgrade or you get to keep the peaces.

greetings
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« Last Edit: 2014/07/16, 02:08:15 by musca »
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Re: Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #1 on: 2014/04/27, 22:00:12 »
Thanks for the heads up.  I was able to successfully to do a d-u, not sure if there are any ill effects as of yet. 

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Re: Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #2 on: 2014/04/28, 14:32:27 »
Hello terroreek,

yes, deleting the broken snapshot of my virtual machine and restarting from clean state i was able to do a dist-upgrade and at least reboot to a gnome desktop. I'm still checking for remaining issues, but ofcourse more testers are welcome.

I don't encourage users to dist-upgrade.

There are no new applications available, neither in unstable nor in experimental repo.

The gnome core components are yet to come. This is what we got so far.
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root@sidubox:~# dpkg -l | grep -P 3.12.[01]
ii  baobab                                       3.12.1-1                           amd64        GNOME disk usage analyzer
ii  cheese-common                                3.12.0-1                           all          Common files for the Cheese tool to take pictures and videos
ii  eog                                          3.12.0-1                           amd64        Eye of GNOME graphics viewer program
ii  evince                                       3.12.1-1                           amd64        Document (PostScript, PDF) viewer
ii  evince-common                                3.12.1-1                           all          Document (PostScript, PDF) viewer - common files
ii  evolution                                    3.12.1-1                           amd64        groupware suite with mail client and organizer
ii  evolution-common                             3.12.1-1                           all          architecture independent files for Evolution
ii  evolution-data-server                        3.12.1-1                           amd64        evolution database backend server
ii  evolution-data-server-common                 3.12.1-1                           all          architecture independent files for Evolution Data Server
ii  file-roller                                  3.12.1-1                           amd64        archive manager for GNOME
ii  five-or-more                                 1:3.12.1-1                         amd64        make color lines of five or more length
ii  four-in-a-row                                1:3.12.1-1                         amd64        four-in-a-row game for GNOME
ii  gcalctool                                    1:3.12.1-1                         all          GNOME desktop calculator (transitional package)
ii  gcr                                          3.12.0-1                           amd64        GNOME crypto services (daemon and tools)
ii  gedit                                        3.12.1-1                           amd64        official text editor of the GNOME desktop environment
ii  gedit-common                                 3.12.1-1                           all          official text editor of the GNOME desktop environment (support files)
ii  gir1.2-gck-1                                 3.12.0-1                           amd64        GObject introspection data for the GCK library
ii  gir1.2-gcr-3                                 3.12.0-1                           amd64        GObject introspection data for the GCR library
ii  gir1.2-gtk-3.0                               3.12.1-1                           amd64        GTK+ graphical user interface library -- gir bindings
ii  gir1.2-mutter-3.0                            3.12.1+really+3.8.4-1              amd64        GObject introspection data for Mutter
ii  gnome-backgrounds                            3.12.0-1                           all          Set of backgrounds packaged with the GNOME desktop
ii  gnome-calculator                             3.12.1-1                           amd64        GNOME desktop calculator
ii  gnome-disk-utility                           3.12.0-1                           amd64        manage and configure disk drives and media
ii  gnome-icon-theme                             3.12.0-1                           all          GNOME Desktop icon theme
ii  gnome-icon-theme-symbolic                    3.12.0-1                           all          GNOME desktop icon theme (symbolic icons)
ii  gnome-keyring                                3.12.0-2                           amd64        GNOME keyring services (daemon and tools)
ii  gnome-screenshot                             3.12.0-1                           amd64        screenshot application for GNOME
ii  gnome-terminal                               3.12.0-2                           amd64        GNOME terminal emulator application
ii  gnome-terminal-data                          3.12.0-2                           all          Data files for the GNOME terminal emulator
ii  gnome-themes-standard:amd64                  3.12.0-1                           amd64        Standard GNOME themes
ii  gnome-themes-standard-data                   3.12.0-1                           all          Data files for GNOME standard themes
ii  gnome-tweak-tool                             3.12.0-2                           all          tool to adjust advanced configuration settings for GNOME
ii  gucharmap                                    1:3.12.0-1                         amd64        Unicode character picker and font browser
ii  iagno                                        1:3.12.1-1                         amd64        popular Othello game for GNOME
ii  libcamel-1.2-49                              3.12.1-1                           amd64        Evolution MIME message handling library
ii  libcheese-gtk23:amd64                        3.12.0-1                           amd64        tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam - widgets
ii  libcheese7:amd64                             3.12.0-1                           amd64        tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam - base library
ii  libebackend-1.2-7                            3.12.1-1                           amd64        Utility library for evolution data servers
ii  libebook-1.2-14                              3.12.1-1                           amd64        Client library for evolution address books
ii  libebook-contacts-1.2-0                      3.12.1-1                           amd64        Client library for evolution contacts books
ii  libecal-1.2-16                               3.12.1-1                           amd64        Client library for evolution calendars
ii  libedata-book-1.2-20                         3.12.1-1                           amd64        Backend library for evolution address books
ii  libedata-cal-1.2-23                          3.12.1-1                           amd64        Backend library for evolution calendars
ii  libedataserver-1.2-18                        3.12.1-1                           amd64        Utility library for evolution data servers
ii  libevdocument3-4                             3.12.1-1                           amd64        Document (PostScript, PDF) rendering library
ii  libevolution                                 3.12.1-1                           amd64        evolution libraries
ii  libevview3-3                                 3.12.1-1                           amd64        Document (PostScript, PDF) rendering library - Gtk+ widgets
ii  libgail-3-0:amd64                            3.12.1-1                           amd64        GNOME Accessibility Implementation Library -- shared libraries
ii  libgck-1-0:amd64                             3.12.0-1                           amd64        Glib wrapper library for PKCS#11 - runtime
ii  libgcr-3-common                              3.12.0-1                           all          Library for Crypto UI related tasks - common files
ii  libgcr-base-3-1:amd64                        3.12.0-1                           amd64        Library for Crypto related tasks
ii  libgcr-ui-3-1:amd64                          3.12.0-1                           amd64        Library for Crypto UI related tasks
ii  libgeocode-glib0                             3.12.0-1                           amd64        geocoding and reverse geocoding GLib library using Nominatim
ii  libgoa-1.0-0b:amd64                          3.12.1-1                           amd64        library for GNOME Online Accounts
ii  libgoa-1.0-common                            3.12.1-1                           all          library for GNOME Online Accounts - common files
ii  libgoa-backend-1.0-1:amd64                   3.12.1-1                           amd64        backend library for GNOME Online Accounts
ii  libgtk-3-0:amd64                             3.12.1-1                           amd64        GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk-3-bin                                 3.12.1-1                           amd64        programs for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk-3-common                              3.12.1-1                           all          common files for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtksourceview-3.0-1:amd64                 3.12.1-1                           amd64        shared libraries for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtksourceview-3.0-common                  3.12.1-1                           all          common files for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgucharmap-2-90-7                          1:3.12.0-1                         amd64        Unicode browser widget library (shared library)
ii  libgweather-3-6                              3.12.0-1                           amd64        GWeather shared library
ii  libgweather-common                           3.12.0-1                           all          GWeather common files
ii  libmutter0b                                  3.12.1+really+3.8.4-1              amd64        window manager library from the Mutter window manager
ii  libtotem0                                    3.12.0-2                           amd64        Main library for the Totem media player
ii  libyelp0                                     3.12.0-1                           amd64        Library for the GNOME help browser
ii  mutter-common                                3.12.1+really+3.8.4-1              all          shared files for the Mutter window manager
ii  python-gi                                    3.12.1-1                           amd64        Python 2.x bindings for gobject-introspection libraries
ii  python-gi-cairo                              3.12.1-1                           amd64        Python Cairo bindings for the GObject library
ii  python-gobject                               3.12.1-1                           all          Python 2.x bindings for GObject - transitional package
ii  python3-gi                                   3.12.1-1                           amd64        Python 3 bindings for gobject-introspection libraries
ii  python3-gi-cairo                             3.12.1-1                           amd64        Python 3 Cairo bindings for the GObject library
ii  totem                                        3.12.0-2                           amd64        Simple media player for the GNOME desktop based on GStreamer
ii  totem-common                                 3.12.0-2                           all          Data files for the Totem media player
ii  vinagre                                      3.12.0-1                           amd64        remote desktop client for the GNOME Desktop
ii  vino                                         3.12.0-1                           amd64        VNC server for GNOME
ii  yelp                                         3.12.0-1                           amd64        Help browser for GNOME
ii  yelp-xsl                                     3.12.0-1                           all          XSL stylesheets for the yelp help browser


Please be patient and carefully read what your dist-upgrade wants to remove. Even if packages are installable this doesn't warrant for a working gnome desktop.

Take care!
musca

« Last Edit: 2014/04/28, 14:35:37 by musca »
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Re: Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #3 on: 2014/04/28, 16:47:24 »
Ok, if you need a guinea pig I don't mind.  I have siduction running in a btrfs subvolume, so I snapshot prior to dist-upgrades and if something breaks it's easy for me to roll back from a dist-upgrade. 

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Re: Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #4 on: 2014/04/28, 17:23:41 »
Yay! The community OS at its best!  :)

I'm missing tabs in the new gnome-terminal 3.12, but at least the keyboard shortcut  Ctrl-Shift-T still does the trick
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Re: Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #5 on: 2014/04/28, 21:09:27 »
yep, I can confirm this behavior as well, I don't usually use the menu bar, but yes, the new tab option is missing but shift ctrl t, will create a new tab, but the tab name is missing. 

Also the show desktop icons bug is still there, but my guess that won't be fixed until nautilus, and the rest of gnome gets updated. 
« Last Edit: 2014/05/25, 11:01:11 by devil »

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Re: Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #6 on: 2014/04/29, 04:28:29 »
@musca
I was able to do another successful dist-upgrade today nothing looks like it was put on hold or removed.

The other thing I have noticed is that open file dialog refuses to honour the 'sort folders before files'.  So if you open gedit, click open and you have that option enabled, and you are in a folder that contains both files and folders, that it ignores that nautilus setting.  Edit it's only gnome 3.12 apps, like gedit.
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Re: Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #7 on: 2014/05/15, 01:41:51 »
Hello,

the transition has been smooth so far. We just have gone through the tracker transition (enable good in the filter).

Now we are approaching the rapids on our rafting tour to gnome 3.12.
The debian maintainers speak about a "big pile" of packages that has to be updated in one step.

Thankfully we can check the transition and watch the packages change their status to green.

Please, be patient, take care and read what your dist-upgrade wants to remove!

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Re: Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #8 on: 2014/05/24, 01:36:47 »
Hello dear gnome friends!

We are still waiting for "the big pile" of packages (see my posting above), but some new applications arrived:

a) Gnome-logs is a viewer for the systemd journal.
b) Gnome-boxes is a frontend for virtualization.
c) Polari is an irc client. It needs gnome-online-accounts for its configuration and has basic functions.

Feedback welcomed!  Did i miss anything new?

Be careful if you try to install theese apps and read what apt-get wants to do.

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Re: Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #9 on: 2014/05/25, 05:28:04 »
gave logs and polari a shot, logs, is cool but truth be told it seems a bit slow switching but I think that might be systemd. 

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Re: Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #10 on: 2014/07/15, 01:55:39 »
Hello my dear gnome friends,

the transition has been silent for a while, because it has been stalled waiting for the upower 0.99 package. Other desktops depend also on upower, so everything had to queue up and wait. Yesterday upower 0.99.0-3 finally arrived in debian unstable and the debian gnome team immediately began to coordinate the next steps.

So be prepared, the "big pile" of remaining gnome 3.12 packages soon will be on its way.
Please check your dist-upgrades for removals and maybe watch the debian transition tracker.

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Re: Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #11 on: 2014/07/16, 01:55:50 »
Hello,

gnome 3.12 is out and the desktop can have icons AND wallpaper again, yay!

The dist-upgrade wanted to removed  libgjs0c, libmetacity-private0a, libmutter0b  and i let those go.
Installation went smooth.

Please provide feedback about new features, i will try to preserve any ideas for the next release of siduction.

Have fun with gnome 3.12!

greetings
musca
« Last Edit: 2014/07/16, 02:45:47 by musca »
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Re: gnome 3.12
« Reply #12 on: 2014/07/16, 02:06:45 »
Hello,

I just installed gnome-sushi which is a file previewer for nautilus.

Usage: Select a file with left click then press space to play and space or escape to abort.


Have more fun with gnome 3.12!

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Re: [solved] Upgrade-Warning: gnome 3.12 transition
« Reply #13 on: 2014/07/16, 21:01:11 »
Hi Musca,

I haven't had a chance yet to update with all the transitions and wanting to remove stuff I need but I notice that Nautilus is up to version 3.12 did it fix the desktop bug where if nautilus handled the desktop it would just draw a white background?

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Re: [solved] gnome 3.12 nautilus
« Reply #14 on: 2014/07/17, 00:14:04 »
Hi terroreek,

yes, you can have "Icons on Desktop" or a wallpaper and even both at once!  It's a complete desktop again.

I'm looking forward to your feedback.

greetings
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