systemd-220 in unstable

Started by ralul, 2015/05/30, 09:39:22

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ralul

Caution!
Achtung Baby!
Quotesystemd (220-2) unstable; urgency=low
  * 220-1 was meant to go to experimental, but was accidentally uploaded to
    unstable. This was planned for next week anyway, just not on a Friday;     
    we don't revert, but keep an RC bug open for a few days to get broader   
    testing. Reupload 220-1 with its changelog actually pointing to unstable   
    and with all versions in the .changes.                                                                 
-- Martin Pitt <mpitt@debian.org>  Fri, 29 May 2015 18:54:09 +0200
experiencing siduction runs better than my gentoo makes me know I know nothing

ralul

Just reading the systemd-220 ChangeLogs further before I consider any upgrade:
QuoteRemove our update-rc.d patches, replace them with upstream patches for
    /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install abstraction, and provide one for 
    update-rc.d. Also implement "is-enabled" command by directly checking for
    the presence of rcS or rc5 symlinks. (Closes: #760616)
Now, this sounds brave: Removing some of the downstream Debian hackery ...
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domicius

While caution is definitely advised, here's the word from Martin Pitt, the uploader: https://plus.google.com/+MartinPitti/posts/YQrLh2nZfhs

dibl

I have just updated two very different siduction/systemd systems and see no problems whatsoever.
System76 Oryx Pro, Intel Core i7-11800H, ASRock B860 Pro-A, Intel Core Ultra 7 265KF, Nvidia GTX-1060, SSD 990 EVO Plus.

Millie

What impact does this have on the system?  I followed the link, but can't find any info about how this impacts the system.

I have 215-18 on this computer and 220-2 on my other Siduction computer. As dibl said above, I haven't experienced any problem with the 220-2 machine.

bluelupo


melmarker

if it works fine - fine - don't do anything :P. In case some services behave strange one have eventually do some cleanup. Will post some things later.
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, November 11, 1755)
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. (Hanlons razor)

ralul

#7
Quote from: bluelupo on 2015/05/30, 15:45:27
It works fine here!
Everybody who reads the Debian bugs must admit
systemd is maintained in an unbeatable diligent fashion.
Quote from: Martin PittThere are no known regressions;the issues that we found in 220 are patched,
... and coordinated work with Ubuntu splendidly happens.
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musca

hello,

udev (part of systemd) has an issue which breaks network for "allow-hotplug" devices configured in /etc/network/interfaces.
see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787263

This will affect users of our former tool ceni which uses allow-hotplug for wired interfaces.

Users should switch to either systemd-networkd or connman or network-manager.
I think we should have a new thread on each subtopic.

greetings
musca
,,Es irrt der Mensch, solang er strebt."  (Goethe, Faust)

ralul

Users using the initrd tool dracut instead of Debian official tools
will not be able to mount, because sysinit/rootfs...fsck.service fails.

My observation:
Since systemd-220 all of files /lib/systemd/system/dracut....service
are wiped out, despite I have done a re-install of dracut.
There is no Debian bug about the issue. Obviously nobody uses dracut :(

I did begin using dracut since I switched to systemd before Debian officially did.
Thought a good idea. But I am not hit as much as I can use my self compiled kernels
which are not in need of any initrd: "make localyesconfig" did that trick.
experiencing siduction runs better than my gentoo makes me know I know nothing

DeepDayze

Quote from: musca on 2015/05/31, 13:40:29
hello,

udev (part of systemd) has an issue which breaks network for "allow-hotplug" devices configured in /etc/network/interfaces.
see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787263

This will affect users of our former tool ceni which uses allow-hotplug for wired interfaces.

Users should switch to either systemd-networkd or connman or network-manager.
I think we should have a new thread on each subtopic.

greetings
musca
Looks like there's a fix coming for that bug...hang tight :)

graviton

#11
Quote from: musca on 2015/05/31, 13:40:29
udev (part of systemd) has an issue which breaks network for "allow-hotplug" devices configured in /etc/network/interfaces.
see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787263

This will affect users of our former tool ceni which uses allow-hotplug for wired interfaces.

I can confirm this problem as it occurs on two of my computers with aptosid-systemd systems. Ceni takes no interfaces (for example: eth0 on the PC and Notebook with wlan0).  A manual start with "ifup eth0" or "ifup wlan0" works, but does not solve the real problem.

Quote from: musca on 2015/05/31, 13:40:29
Users should switch to either systemd-networkd or connman or network-manager.
I think we should have a new thread on each subtopic.

A change seems to make sense, a thread for systemd-networkd would be useful!

graviton

reddark

So, jetzt bitte ne kleine Kurzfassung auf Deutsch .. ;)
Google-Übersetzung und meine schwachen Englischkenntnisse erwecken bei mir nicht das Vertrauen, das ich alles richtig verstehe .... ;)

Danke ....  8)

musca

#13
Hello,

... and it will bring the fixed version of udev 220-3, see changelog:
  * sd-device: fix device_get_properties_strv(). Fixes environment for
    processes spawned by udev, in particular "allow-hoplug" ifupdown
    interfaces via ifup@.service. (Closes: #787263)


so just wait 3 or 4 hours more before you dist-upgrade.

greetings
musca

Hallo reddark,
durch einen Bug in udev funktioniert die klassische Netzwerkkonfiguration momentan nicht, so dass Anwender von Ceni betroffen sind.
Mit dem nächsten Repo-Sync in etwa 3-4 Stunden kommt der Fix.

Grüße
musca
,,Es irrt der Mensch, solang er strebt."  (Goethe, Faust)

reddark

@musca

danke .... gut das ich gewartet hab ... ;)